17,000,000 College-Educated Americans Are Wasting Their Degree On Menial Jobs

[ShawnD1]

I can't imagine why...

University offers Lady Gaga sociology course - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11672679

liberal arts degree - the most useful thing in the history of the world

 

[bigdog1218]

Nope. 30% employment walking out the door Spring '10 from Georgia Tech.
My friend has $100k in loans for his EE degree and still no job, only a worthless offer for $45k-- poor guy, he believed the lies that education was the path to success. Too bad there aren't enough things to invent anymore for engineers to have jobs!

The whole motivation behind it (capitalism) is broken. Greed-- it works for a while, and a lot better than other economies, until it fails.
We have to replace it with corporations run for the sake of benefiting the employee, as opposed to benefiting the shareholders.

$45k a year is a worthless offer? The problem with new graduates is not that they can't find jobs, it's that plenty of the kids graduating these days are part of a generation of self-entitled brats that think everything should be handed to them.

I'm not going to feel sorry for these lazy idiots who thought just going to an expensive school and getting a degree would guarantee them all the world's riches.

 

[mmntech]

I'm one of these people with the degree working a menial job. I have a degree in political science and a graduate diploma in journalism.

In my field, they're just now hiring back all the people that got laid off in the last two years. It's all senior level positions up for grabs. Entry level jobs are very few and far between. I might see only one or two turn up in my media job ads feeds a week. You could have 50+ people, all equally qualified, applying for the same job.

It becomes very hard to set yourself out from the crowd. I need money to live. I work long hours, 10.5hr days. This in turn doesn't give me enough time or energy to work on "extra-curricular" projects to add to my portfolio. Employers want to see this kind of stuff now. It's a catch-22. It would be nice if my mommy and daddy covered all my expenses. Then maybe I could do that stuff.

I actually applied for an entry-level reporting job in the North-West Territories for god's sake and even they haven't gotten back to me.

 

[bamacre]

That whole thing is damning. But cheerleaders will still claim that Democrats are defenders of the downtrodden.

They are though. The downtrodden overseas.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

$45k a year is a worthless offer?

That depends. With 38k in student loans and paying the minimum payments over 20 years 40k is needed just for basic expenses without being absolutely broke.

 

[ShawnD1]

That depends. With 38k in student loans and paying the minimum payments over 20 years 40k is needed just for basic expenses without being absolutely broke.

That's one of life's harshest lessons. Instead of going to a state university and paying cash, people choose to go 100k in debt and fuck themselves over. Oops.

Me? I went to a gubment school. Yeah I make only 45k but my school was about 4500 per year and I only bought 1 book. I have no student debt. Yay me.

 

[razor2025]

Sounds about right. I finished EE in 2010, took 8 months to find a job (started looking in january before graduating), and that's roughly what I'm getting paid.

It's just starting salary. Work hard, try to learn things, and move up the ladder. Don't play world of warcraft all day and wait for a 70k job to land on your balls

I still can't believe that. I got my CS at Tech, and got offered 60k at my current job (in ATL). People I know were offered at least 50k all along East coast.... I guess I lucked out when I swapped from Comp Eng to CS, thinking it was too specialized & saturated.

 

[razor2025]

That's one of life's harshest lessons. Instead of going to a state university and paying cash, people choose to go 100k in debt and fuck themselves over. Oops.

Me? I went to a gubment school. Yeah I make only 45k but my school was about 4500 per year and I only bought 1 book. I have no student debt. Yay me.

Well.. GT is "bang for buck", but you do get "what you paid for" in terms of certain teaching "qualities"...

It was definitely cheap to go there, esp when you can grab HOPE scholarship. I spent $20k for my undergrad, mostly for stupid fees and 3 semester of on-campus living. My graduate tab is about $10k so far, probably end up spending $15k total for it.

 

[gingermeggs]

Thanks Bushie, did a heck of a job

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZrFyypvfpA

Hope you like this song Dave it's by dick desert!

 

[gingermeggs]

Correction. It's the low wage service jobs we are fighting for since higher paid production was offshored and we have used serial Ponzi Finance - first with the Internet Bubble and now with the Housing Bubble - to mask our real falling standard of living. Borrowed money that has to be paid back - and we can't make the payments - and will break the banking system too. Trifecta.

You have had an inflated standard of living in the world comparatively(8x at a guess).
What your country makes better then all else is weapons of mass destruction. The make or break is can you make a droid army quick enough to stop the human wave of revenge from hitting your shores?
The french were paternal to the creation of your rebel republic and your countries greed made it blind to the cultural history of so many before yours, it is the juxtapose to countries like the communist soviets, who are now *finally* going to win the cold war!
Death by capitalism and it's inherent corruption- fuck you jack!
As you now cry, many toast in happy regalia!
star mangled spanner!
In god we trust(those so bold, never to grow old).
Brains is cheap!

Moral of the story is- you're got to learn to take a hit!
PWND!

 

[gingermeggs]

You're a wise man Mr Possum. This "blue print" as it were was understood by our founders who's only way of taxation was tariffs as protection from the superior Europeans. This was how govt was funded until 1913 and what built USA from backwater neanderthals to #1 - china and most of Asia understands these lessons and have cultural tariffs if nothing else - besides stealing all IP.. FYI Taiwan still runs a trade surplus so I'm not sure what to say about that instance.

Try exporting wine to Thailand(wine here is cheaper then beer! au)
If you went to see how the "average Jo" Taiwanese lives, you'd know how they run a serpentine surplus- you have had a great foundation- but you sold your asses for a dime on the pound!
You greedy sons of bitches.
He's a song for it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sZibV9QNMM
Arts degrees are priceless~
I'm banking the little brother wins!!!
You have no William Holden(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Holden) or Richard Widmark(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Widmark) this time it's all going to be a mexican victory.
Now the actors become politicians instead.

 

[Zebo]

That's one of life's harshest lessons. Instead of going to a state university and paying cash, people choose to go 100k in debt and fuck themselves over. Oops.

Me? I went to a gubment school. Yeah I make only 45k but my school was about 4500 per year and I only bought 1 book. I have no student debt. Yay me.

What kind of major did you only buy 1 book in 4 years? Granted I bought none in Liberal arts...I think I just answered my question.

Seriously school has gone up a lot. When I went to calpoly it was $230 a quarter.. I worked at a place called cuesta equipment basically industrial hardware @ $10 an hour and had zero debt. Kids today can't do that. Ca state schools are outrageous $6-10K a year and they nickle and dime you to death on fees. I don't know exactly what it is but there is no way one can conclude debt free.

 

[bamacre]

What kind of major did you only buy 1 book in 4 years? Granted I bought none in Liberal arts...I think I just answered my question.

Seriously school has gone up a lot. When I went to calpoly it was $230 a quarter.. I worked at a place called cuesta equipment basically industrial hardware @ $10 an hour and had zero debt. Kids today can't do that. Ca state schools are outrageous $6-10K a year and they nickle and dime you to death on fees. I don't know exactly what it is but there is no way one can conclude debt free.

When the gov't makes something affordable for everyone, the result will be no one being able to afford it.

 

[ShawnD1]

When the gov't makes something affordable for everyone, the result will be no one being able to afford it.

Except the postal service, state university, garbage disposal, etc

 

[Zorkorist]

State University is no longer attainable for the Average American.

Postal Service and Garbage Collection are next.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Government intervention in our daily lives has to end.

Their taxes have to end.

Let people go to school, take out the trash, and mail a letter.

-John

 

[PrinceofWands]

State University is no longer attainable for the Average American.

Postal Service and Garbage Collection are next.

-John

$6000/yr isn't attainable? Even I afforded it, and I've never made any real money in my life. Of course I had a ton of grants and scholarships, but that actually proves my point. I had a .012GPA in high school and still managed to get my college paid for, same as other people can.

 

[Zorkorist]

I worked my way through College, because $450/semester was outrageous.

I have no College debt. I have a degree.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

It's only recently that College has gotten outrageously expensive.

The worst thing I faced is buying text books.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

These are kids, you are asking to pay $6,000 per year...

Or are you really just taxing everybody?

-John

 

[ShawnD1]

Government intervention in our daily lives has to end.

Their taxes have to end.

Let people go to school, take out the trash, and mail a letter.

lol.
Do you remember why we initially created "free" garbage disposal? It's so people actually throw things in the garbage. Do you really expect me to put bags of trash in my car and haul it to the dump? You have got to be shitting me. There's no way I'd do that and neither would anyone else. It would get dumped in the nearest convenient location, usually in one of those places that actually has a sign saying "no dumping"

These are kids, you are asking to pay $6,000 per year...

Or are you really just taxing everybody?

So you're suggested free university for all? I like this idea, as long as it doesn't include useless degrees like the lady gaga sociology class. If Harvard kids want to pay 30k per year to learn that, then I'm happy for them, but it shouldn't get tax money. Let's stick to useful things like engineering and medicine

 

[potluv]

Universities/Colleges in the USA as it stands now, primarily serve it's American citizenry as a tool to condition them with living in debt, grinding away going to classes to one day land a job that will help pay off the debt incurred from obtaining higher education in the USA. While the jobs they land may or may not be entirely able to provide an income where those students will be able to pay off their debt for education.

Students are basically handing over an enormous amount of their lives to be in that debt, just to have the necessary certifications that a corporation finds desirable, more importantly an individual whose shown to be obedient enough to handle workloads throughout their academic career, how well they can conform to groups or organizations like a fraternity/sorority, but its all still not enough since corporations don't just hand out jobs like they used to, at least not to Americans.

 

[bamacre]

I worked my way through College, because $450/semester was outrageous.

I have no College debt. I have a degree.

-John

Same, and I graduated in 1998. Tuition at the school I attended has more than tripled in 12 years.