172nd Strykers are home

[straightalker]

No. Not that. If you were to add in that, you'd get a figure like we have from GulfWar 1. After which hundreds of thousands of soldiers from that were were put on permanent disability payments. http://www.gulfwarvets.com/

The estimate of 15,000 can be heard here in the mp3 audio archives of December. Download them here. http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Tarpley06.html

15,000 is based on the scam of counting only as official war dead only those who die inside Iraq. When there are thousands who die in the air on the way to Hospitals outside Iraq. And in those hospitals. All those dead are NOT COUNTED as Iraq War casualties.

I generally find that all the alleged "supporters" of our troops and of the Iraq War remain purposefully ignorant of these facts. Wave a flag. That's their support.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: straightalker
No. Not that. If you were to add in that, you'd get a figure like we have from GulfWar 1. After which hundreds of thousands of soldiers from that were were put on permanent disability payments. http://www.gulfwarvets.com/

The estimate of 15,000 can be heard here in the mp3 audio archives of December. Download them here. http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Tarpley06.html

15,000 is based on the scam of counting only as official war dead only those who die inside Iraq. When there are thousands who die in the air on the way to Hospitals outside Iraq. And in those hospitals. All those dead are NOT COUNTED as Iraq War casualties.

I generally find that all the alleged "supporters" of our troops and of the Iraq War remain purposefully ignorant of these facts. Wave a flag. That's their support.

So you are telling me that 15,000 American soldiers have died in the past three years as a direct result of injuries recieved in Iraq and ALL of American is ignorant of this fact?

Do you expect me to beleive that the New York Times or another news source would not have been all over this story by now?

Why do I bother wasting me time responding to you and your non-sense.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: straightalker
No. Not that. If you were to add in that, you'd get a figure like we have from GulfWar 1. After which hundreds of thousands of soldiers from that were were put on permanent disability payments. http://www.gulfwarvets.com/

The estimate of 15,000 can be heard here in the mp3 audio archives of December. Download them here. http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Tarpley06.html

15,000 is based on the scam of counting only as official war dead only those who die inside Iraq. When there are thousands who die in the air on the way to Hospitals outside Iraq. And in those hospitals. All those dead are NOT COUNTED as Iraq War casualties.

I generally find that all the alleged "supporters" of our troops and of the Iraq War remain purposefully ignorant of these facts. Wave a flag. That's their support.

So you are telling me that 15,000 American soldiers have died in the past three years as a direct result of injuries recieved in Iraq and ALL of American is ignorant of this fact?

Do you expect me to beleive that the New York Times or another news source would not have been all over this story by now?

Why do I bother wasting me time responding to you and your non-sense.

Don't bother. He goes into threads posting lie after lie, and get's owned time and time again. He's like a little Dave in training.

 

[Brovane]

Those of you talking about how "safe" a Stryker is on a Battlefield should always remember how "safe" an Abrams Tank is. Match the target with the right weapon and it's toast. As the ragtroops in Lebanon recently proved against the Zionist invasion there. Where the Zionists were blown to pieces by new Russian anti-tank weapons. Reality rules.

The Stryker is safer than a armored hummve and seems to do a good job at protecting soldiers from IED's. The Slat armor placed on a Stryker also seems to protect the vehicle against RPG type wepaons. A Stryker comes in at around 20-tons vs 70-tons for a Abrams so a Stryker is a lot easier to deploy and has less of a logistic tail than a Abrams.

GB

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Horus

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

Except...except when you turn the turret sideways THE DAMN THINGS ROLLS OVER. That's why the Canadian Army didn't buy them. BECAUSE THE MAIN GUN IS USELESS

Proof?

I'd have to dig up the Canadian Forces newsletter for last year. But it was the LAV-25 chassis with the 105mm cannon attachment. We didn't buy it because,

1) There was a massive amount of blowback, barrel was ENGULFED with flame whenever rounds were fired.

2) Lateral stability was awful...the wheels would leave the ground when the gun was fired in 90 degree position in position with the vehicle

If you're talking about the Stryker, meaning the LAV-25/LAV-3 armored vehicle...it's a simply fantastic piece of kit. It's saved several lives for our troops in Afghanistan, and is superbly multipurpose.

I thought you guys got turned down for financing? NO SAME AS CASH DEAL FOR YOO! :beer::beer:

yeah heard your credit was bad or something...

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: Brovane
a Stryker is a lot easier to deploy and has less of a logistic tail than a Abrams.

GB

Indeed, that's the primary thought in reorganizing the force structure towards modular, brigade combat teams, and the Stryker is the key system platform. As the army goes through this transformation from the legacy cold-war type line and block charts towards self-contained, task organized BCTs that are geared towards expeditionary roles, the Stryker will be playing a huge part for years to come.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: straightalker

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: straightalker
So for how many days this time before they get called back for another Tour in Iraq/Afghanistan?

Some of the guys said they were back for at least 16 months. Some are PCS'ing out. Most of them said they will likely have to make another trip over.

Hey no problem right? DU sickness has a latency period of up to 20 or 30 years. So our men who signed the dotted line are good to go until they actually keel over and drop dead. Their kids currently born with six arms make excellent tennis players. No problemo.

orly? Is this the new mantra of the anti-du crowd? Tell it to the WHO.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: straightalker
No. Not that. If you were to add in that, you'd get a figure like we have from GulfWar 1. After which hundreds of thousands of soldiers from that were were put on permanent disability payments. http://www.gulfwarvets.com/

The estimate of 15,000 can be heard here in the mp3 audio archives of December. Download them here. http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Tarpley06.html

15,000 is based on the scam of counting only as official war dead only those who die inside Iraq. When there are thousands who die in the air on the way to Hospitals outside Iraq. And in those hospitals. All those dead are NOT COUNTED as Iraq War casualties.

I generally find that all the alleged "supporters" of our troops and of the Iraq War remain purposefully ignorant of these facts. Wave a flag. That's their support.

That's complete and utter BULLSH*T and you know it.

http://www.icasualties.org/oif/Details.aspx

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: straightalker
No. Not that. If you were to add in that, you'd get a figure like we have from GulfWar 1. After which hundreds of thousands of soldiers from that were were put on permanent disability payments. http://www.gulfwarvets.com/

The estimate of 15,000 can be heard here in the mp3 audio archives of December. Download them here. http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Tarpley06.html

15,000 is based on the scam of counting only as official war dead only those who die inside Iraq. When there are thousands who die in the air on the way to Hospitals outside Iraq. And in those hospitals. All those dead are NOT COUNTED as Iraq War casualties.

I generally find that all the alleged "supporters" of our troops and of the Iraq War remain purposefully ignorant of these facts. Wave a flag. That's their support.

That's complete and utter BULLSH*T and you know it.

Thank you

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: straightalker
No. Not that. If you were to add in that, you'd get a figure like we have from GulfWar 1. After which hundreds of thousands of soldiers from that were were put on permanent disability payments. http://www.gulfwarvets.com/

The estimate of 15,000 can be heard here in the mp3 audio archives of December. Download them here. http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Tarpley06.html

15,000 is based on the scam of counting only as official war dead only those who die inside Iraq. When there are thousands who die in the air on the way to Hospitals outside Iraq. And in those hospitals. All those dead are NOT COUNTED as Iraq War casualties.

I generally find that all the alleged "supporters" of our troops and of the Iraq War remain purposefully ignorant of these facts. Wave a flag. That's their support.

That's complete and utter BULLSH*T and you know it.

Thank you

I don't agree with you on many topics but this is one stance I will stand with you on.


And for the conspiracy theorists out there:

Out-of-Theater fatalities
http://www.icasualties.org/oif/Dow.aspx


P.S. Glad the Strykers are home and hope like heck the LBJ-method of increasing troop size doesn't come to fruition and they get to remain at home.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: straightalker
No. Not that. If you were to add in that, you'd get a figure like we have from GulfWar 1. After which hundreds of thousands of soldiers from that were were put on permanent disability payments. http://www.gulfwarvets.com/

The estimate of 15,000 can be heard here in the mp3 audio archives of December. Download them here. http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Tarpley06.html

15,000 is based on the scam of counting only as official war dead only those who die inside Iraq. When there are thousands who die in the air on the way to Hospitals outside Iraq. And in those hospitals. All those dead are NOT COUNTED as Iraq War casualties.

I generally find that all the alleged "supporters" of our troops and of the Iraq War remain purposefully ignorant of these facts. Wave a flag. That's their support.

That's complete and utter BULLSH*T and you know it.

Thank you

I don't agree with you on many topics but this is one stance I will stand with you on.


And for the conspiracy theorists out there:

Out-of-Theater fatalities
http://www.icasualties.org/oif/Dow.aspx


P.S. Glad the Strykers are home and hope like heck the LBJ-method of increasing troop size doesn't come to fruition and they get to remain at home.

It doesn't look like there is going to be any significant change in Iraq policy in the next two years. So, sadly, they willl probably have to go back... Maybe sooner than originally expected. What a mess.

 

[conjur]

Well, buy them a :beer: from me, eh?