1800+ Thorougbred - NOW $59!! shipped - Now $67 argg.

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: suphu
they're the same cpu. the retail just comes with the stock heatsink and fan

I know that ...

May be I should have been clearer - I was asking for the difference and o/c success of the 1700+ relative to the 1800+. All tbreds are unlocked right?

Yo

clearer...yes..

The 1700 is still 57(oem)/68(retail). Any substantial difference if I overclock?

Yo

people have been getting better oc from the 1800...YMMV ...and why is the 1800 retail back up to $79 ..?

 

[Mustanggt]

I dont think the rev b are even out yet I think I read somewhere first quarter of 2003< I have the 1800 Tbred rev A from newegg, and it does 2GHz no problem at 1.82 v,

 

[IMO]

When you say 2ghz no problem you mean actually 2.0ghz(x[p2400+) or xp2000?
is your thorougbred lock or unlock from amd?
Thanks

 

[vexingv]

the oem is now backup to 67 shipped i hate it how newegg prices always fluctuate so quickly for no apparent reason

 

[formulav8]

He means 2,000mhz. Just like I mean 2,000mhz. I will edit the post to reflect the price increase. Arggg.



Jason

 

[xenolith]

Originally posted by: IMO
is your thorougbred lock or unlock from amd?
Thanks

all t-breds are unlocked

 

[ww4397]

Originally posted by: vexingv
... i hate it how newegg prices always fluctuate so quickly for no apparent reason

No reason? How about the Anandtech effect?

 

[vexingv]

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No reason? How about the Anandtech effect?

stop posting hot deals so that they lower prices....j/k

 

[Dea]

www.googlegear.com has it for $64 OEM and $73 retail

 

[Rapier]

I got mine in yesterday. On my Epox 8K3a+, I only was able to get it totally stable at ~1925 at 1.75 volts on the core. Not the greatest (or worst either) overclock. ~400 mhz OC isn't all that bad mind you, but I was hoping for more. The dude was running hot avg. 131F under full load using my Alpha 8045 w/50cfm YSTech fan. I threw some more voltage at it (1.85) and got into windows at 1995 but wqsn't stable at all there. Oh Well.

 

[vexingv]

www.googlegear.com has it for $64 OEM and $73 retail

those are not t-breds

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

$65 now.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Mustanggt
I dont think the rev b are even out yet I think I read somewhere first quarter of 2003< I have the 1800 Tbred rev A from newegg, and it does 2GHz no problem at 1.82 v,

Whoa, aren't you worried about frying your CPU due to overvolting? Especially with all of the reports of 0.13u PIV Northwood chips dying from running overvolted by 0.2v or more. TBredA/B chips run at 1.5-1.65v nominal.

I have an XP1800+ TBredA chip, rated 1.5v, runs at up to 166Mhz x 10.0 without overvolting. Can get it to run as high as 175Mhz FSB, using generic CAS 2.5 PC2700 DDR333, on an MSI KT4V-L board. Think my PSU is marginal though, increasing the voltage on any of my components besides the CPU makes the system not boot, or if I increase the voltage on the CPU and then try to push it further. I was a little disappointed, I heard all the stories of people hitting 2Ghz on air with these CPUs, but not for me. :|

PS. How high have you been able to push your FSB, and what speed RAM are you running? (And what board?)

 

[cliftonite]

I have a stick of 512 Mb PC 133 RAM lying around (got it on a blackfriday deal)...how much of an overclock can i expect using PC133?

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

$66 now.

 

[corinthos]

Once the price hits $39.99 I'll be all over this

 

[awanSky]

Originally posted by: corinthos
Once the price hits $39.99 I'll be all over this

Don't hold your breath ....

 

[Brainstorm]

I bought the AXDA1800DLT3C CPU for $67 a couple of days ago and ran in to some weirdness (slightly long message, but bear with me).

I plugged the CPU in to my Shuttle AK31A mobo and it booted up with "Unknown CPU Type 1464Mhz". I went ahead and flashed my mobo to the newest bios and then it recognized my CPU as an "Athlon XP 1100Mhz". That made no sense at all! So I went in to the bios and noticed that the FSB was set to 100Mhz (why? I have no idea!). So I set it to 133Mhz and rebooted and now it recognized the CPU as an "Athlon XP 1700+". Still does not make sense since it should be an 1800+. I then noticed that on random reboots it would detect the CPU was an "Athlon XP 2000+". So I said, what the heck - if it can randomly work as a 2000+, then I might as well try and force it to. I changed the multiplier from 11 to 13 and rebooted. Obviously I didn't expect this to work since the multiplier should be locked right? But no, it booted fine as a 2000+ and now i'm stressing it with Sandra and seems to be fine!! Oh, and i upped the voltage by 0.5 and it's running at 1.54V right now. No other changes. I tried to up the multiplier to 14, but it wouldn't boot, so i reset the bios.

Is this odd or what? Is anyone else facing weird issues with this CPU?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Brainstorm
I bought the AXDA1800DLT3C CPU for $67 a couple of days ago and ran in to some weirdness (slightly long message, but bear with me).

I plugged the CPU in to my Shuttle AK31A mobo and it booted up with "Unknown CPU Type 1464Mhz". I went ahead and flashed my mobo to the newest bios and then it recognized my CPU as an "Athlon XP 1100Mhz". That made no sense at all! So I went in to the bios and noticed that the FSB was set to 100Mhz (why? I have no idea!). So I set it to 133Mhz and rebooted and now it recognized the CPU as an "Athlon XP 1700+". Still does not make sense since it should be an 1800+. I then noticed that on random reboots it would detect the CPU was an "Athlon XP 2000+". So I said, what the heck - if it can randomly work as a 2000+, then I might as well try and force it to. I changed the multiplier from 11 to 13 and rebooted. Obviously I didn't expect this to work since the multiplier should be locked right? But no, it booted fine as a 2000+ and now i'm stressing it with Sandra and seems to be fine!! Oh, and i upped the voltage by 0.5 and it's running at 1.54V right now. No other changes. I tried to up the multiplier to 14, but it wouldn't boot, so i reset the bios.

Is this odd or what? Is anyone else facing weird issues with this CPU?

Well, my MSI KT4V-L board, when you put the CPU in and boot for the first time, shows up as "AThlon , 1150Mhz". The FSB setting on mine also defaults to 100Mhz. I think this is actually on purpose, and you can change the bridges on the chip to change the default FSB to 133Mhz if you want to. Also, in my bios, I have 14.0 and 15.0 multipliers, but they actually come out to 5.0 and 5.5, which is kinda of strange. I also noticed that the FSB setting is off by even more with the most recent 1.7 BIOS update. Selecting 166Mhz x 10.0 in the BIOS now results in 1680Mhz in WCPUID. Before it was only 1667Mhz. I'm guessing that MSI "tweaked" the BIOS to fudge the FSB setting a bit, in order to perform better in reviews. (I never understood why reviewers compared things like the CPU speed of different mobos, using the exact same CPU for the tests. Assuming that that mobo is accurate and correct, the scores should be the SAME. There's no need to issue awards just for a mobo that overclocks the FSB by a couple of Mhz. They always scale the graphs to make that insignificant difference look huge too.) I think the most important features should be checked if they: a) work, and b) the system is stable. Benchmarking mobo speed is moronic.

 

[psianime]

Last night I had a dream where I fried my regular Athlon XP 1800+ and I was happy that I was going to buy a 1800+ T-Bred. I think I hang around these fourms too much.

-psianime

 

[k1114]

Originally posted by: psianime
Last night I had a dream where I fried my regular Athlon XP 1800+ and I was happy that I was going to buy a 1800+ T-Bred. I think I hang around these fourms too much.

-psianime

Me too, I am considering accidentally crushing my 1.3/100 core as an excuse to get the 1800+ tbred

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: Brainstorm
I bought the AXDA1800DLT3C CPU for $67 a couple of days ago and ran in to some weirdness (slightly long message, but bear with me).

I plugged the CPU in to my Shuttle AK31A mobo and it booted up with "Unknown CPU Type 1464Mhz". I went ahead and flashed my mobo to the newest bios and then it recognized my CPU as an "Athlon XP 1100Mhz". That made no sense at all! So I went in to the bios and noticed that the FSB was set to 100Mhz (why? I have no idea!). So I set it to 133Mhz and rebooted and now it recognized the CPU as an "Athlon XP 1700+". Still does not make sense since it should be an 1800+. I then noticed that on random reboots it would detect the CPU was an "Athlon XP 2000+". So I said, what the heck - if it can randomly work as a 2000+, then I might as well try and force it to. I changed the multiplier from 11 to 13 and rebooted. Obviously I didn't expect this to work since the multiplier should be locked right? But no, it booted fine as a 2000+ and now i'm stressing it with Sandra and seems to be fine!! Oh, and i upped the voltage by 0.5 and it's running at 1.54V right now. No other changes. I tried to up the multiplier to 14, but it wouldn't boot, so i reset the bios.

Is this odd or what? Is anyone else facing weird issues with this CPU?

Thanks for the update regarding the Shuttle AK31A & XP1800+ Thoroughbred. I'm also running an AK31A (rev. 3) with the latest bios release on it. I just piced up a retail 1800+ today (AXDA markings) from a local computer retailer. I paid $89.00 for it, but I had a $17 credit at the store. Plus, saving $10 vs. getting the chip right away was a "no brainer" so I took the chip home. I'll get the CPU installed in the next day or so and post my findings with my Shuttle AK31A motherboard. I'd throw in the chip right now, but I received a nice little box of "goodies" from SVCompucycle yesterday and I want to play around with some quieter cooling fans first.

 

[jpbushido99]

Wow New egg sent me the 1800+ Thorougbred with the B core, I get 2Ghz at 190fsb easy, core voltage at 1.550. Wow, runs very cool 27C idle 32-36 full load. The only bottle neck is my cooling I need to get a couple of extra fans in my case and I will be running this proc at 220fsb at 2.5 Ghz I am sure of it.

 

[BalAtWork]

jpbushido,

What motherboard you using? What Mem?

I want to use the abit nf7-s with corsiar xms. I know people like the Epox and Asus but the Epox lacks the digital out and Asus has the stupid soundstorm driver problem (i know its not a "problem" but its one more pain in a** I don't want to hassle with with each new nvidia driver release)

 

[formulav8]

You really got a B core? 1.5v is the A core. 1.6 is the B core. What is your model numbers and stepping info?