1900XTX is CRAP

[akshayt]

what BFG?
I have ATi

 

[akshayt]

no artifacts

very very very choppy, very very very slow, very very very untolerable
performance equally bad with and without soft shadows, this is highly shocking

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: akshayt
what BFG?
I have ATi

he's referring to BFG10K, the user. you might want to read his reply, he's trying to help you.

 

[TheRyuu]

Well, you conclusion about the X1900XTX being crap....well....you might have "jumped the gun" on that one.

I'm going to list things so try this (or ask yourself the question):
-Is the Windows install fresh?
-Are all the components in the rig fast enough to keep up with X1900XTX
-Do you have all the lastest drivers installed (chipset, video, etc.)
-Is the 6-pin PCIe Power connector plugged into video card?
-Did I miss anything

Anyway, I'm also going to suggest you try out these: XTreme-G Warcat Drivers (and no, this one does not have a virus)

There's also a patch for the above. You don't really need it though (at least I don't think so). But knock yourself out, and install it anyway.

The modified drivers can really help some issues. Just make sure that you uninstall the old ones THE RIGHT WAY:
-Uninstall from Device Manager
-Reboot into safe mode (F8)
-Run Driver Cleaner Pro (using ATI settings, it's real easy)
-Reboot into regular Windows, install drivers
-Reboot, configure, and profit

Also, with a X1900XTX you should be able to use 4xAA, 16xHQAF with most games. Not to mention AAA (or whatever it's called on ATI cards). And you could also change setting to High Quality.

So, have fun with it and I'm sure you'll change your mind.

 

[Lord Banshee]

1) Reinstall chipset drivers like stated above

2) Overclock CPU to 2.2-2.4Ghz

3) Make sure there is nothing running in the background before playing your game.. ie Ctrl+Alt+Del, performance, and make sure you CPU Usage is <=2% when you are not doing anything on your computer.

 

[CP5670]

Originally posted by: akshayt
what about choppy and lagging behaviour
it is untolerable at 12X10 MAX , 1 notch of AA
Will cpu OC solve the problem?

What is "choppy and lagging behavior"? Bad framerates or stuttering even with good framerates?

Make sure you don't have adaptive AA on and turn down the ingame shadow detail too. Both of those things hurt performance a lot in MW.

 

[akshayt]

Drivers are on performance, no AAA
Fresh install
All drivers latest except nforce 4 which are very old
amd 64bit 3200 winchester + 2gb ram

 

[hardwareking]

oc the cpu to atleast 2.4ghz.Or get another cpu and a better motherboard.
Install the latest chipset drivers and video card drivers.
Install all latest patches for the games.
And whats the RPM of ur HDD?And is it sata 2 or regular sata?Cause a low rpm HDD can also impact performance.
And ur ram is lacking.U should atleast have 2 gigs in.And 1280x1024 is not exactly a gpu limited resolution,so ocing ur cpu and getting that extra gig will solve the choppiness.And in games like fear 2gigs are necessary for smooth gameplay.Cause if u don't the page file ill be written to the HDD and will cause choppiness.
And ensure u have proper cooling in ur system.i.e the cpu,gpu and chipset have good airflow.

 

[akshayt]

Mobo, Asus A8N E, isn't this mobo fine?
will newer chipset drivers help?
will patches help?
SATA NCQ 7200RPM
read previous reply and first post link for rig

how to increase fan speed?

 

[akshayt]

BENCHMARKS

Most Wanted Demo
second map
drivers on performance or better, all in game settings

1024*768 MAX AF, NO AA
Avg: 49.405 - Min: 30 - Max: 68

1280*1024 MAX AF MAX AA
Avg: 47.905 - Min: 29 - Max: 65

In each case there is a lot of stuttering, a lot

 

[Vinnybcfc]

Originally posted by: akshayt
All drivers latest except nforce 4 which are very old

Thats your problem, go and get the latest ones

 

[akshayt]

downloading it

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: akshayt
BENCHMARKS

Most Wanted Demo
second map
drivers on performance or better, all in game settings

1024*768 MAX AF, NO AA
Avg: 49.405 - Min: 30 - Max: 68

1280*1024 MAX AF MAX AA
Avg: 47.905 - Min: 29 - Max: 65

In each case there is a lot of stuttering, a lot

so your average FPS changes little when you increase resolution and move AA to max, and you thought it was your vid card? the numbers you have there are an obvious exclamation that something other than your hardware is wrong.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

REFORMAT PC, install mb drivers, update windows, install 6.5. try again. dontput your blame on the x1900xtx as it is a great card. you're just having problems with it. " solve the problem, you are comp experts, do something " we're not you're tech support.

 

[orangat]

Originally posted by: akshayt
please help
even FEAR is crap
12x9 I think
maxed out including soft shadows
no aa
2x af
crap, choppy, untolerable even when fps 50-100
sometimes fps are very low as well
but gameplay is crap
renamed FEAR file to game

Its not your cpu. FEAR runs ok even with slower cpu's. At least it shouldn't stutter and run very choppy.

Its your own messed up config or drivers.

 

[akshayt]

I finally got a game that I can play on this config.
Doom3
fine at 1280*1024 ULTRA 4x AA 8x AF

What should I do?
Should I reinstall xp with the drivers?
Should I do quick format or format?
Should I oc at the moment?

 

[LOUISSSSS]

do not oc. oc'ing doesn't give you any real world performance increase.
as i stated an easy way to fix everything would be to reformat and reinstall everything new

 

[orangat]

Originally posted by: akshayt
I finally got a game that I can play on this config.
Doom3
fine at 1280*1024 ULTRA 4x AA 8x AF

What should I do?
Should I reinstall xp with the drivers?
Should I do quick format or format?
Should I oc at the moment?

Why do you keep asking about overclocking? FEAR runs great on slower cpu's than the 3000.

Since you can't even install a new video card properly and put the blame on the fastest mainstream card shows that you are not smart. Buy pre-built next time.

 

[thilanliyan]

Usually extreme stuttering is either ram (which cannot be in your case) or it's the video drivers as has been my experience.

Download the Omega Drivers from this location and install those instead.

Uninstall your old drivers using driver cleaner and then install the newer drivers.

And you might wanna think of changing your topic title because you will get flamed for it. Numerous people have already said it's not the vid card that is the problem so your topic title doesn't make much sense.

 

[akshayt]

aren't ATi drivers better than omega drivers.

So you mean I should use driver cleaner and remove nforce and catalyst and then reinstally catalyst 6.5 and nforce 6.70?
should I oc?

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: akshayt
solve the problem, you are comp experts, do something

Originally posted by: akshayt
Mobo, Asus A8N E, isn't this mobo fine?
will newer chipset drivers help?
will patches help?
SATA NCQ 7200RPM
read previous reply and first post link for rig

how to increase fan speed?

OK, the first thing that you need to do is calm the f*ck down...

The second thing you need to do is read the responses (carefully).

A PC is simply a system of logically and physically connected components, which means that in order to tech a problem you must be systematic. DO NOT attempt to "fix" multiple issues all at once. Do them one at a time a test after each adjustment. For example, don't concern yourself with the fan speed.

Let me suggest these as a good starting point:

• update all your drivers, latest nForce and latest Catalysts. Why are you running old nForce drivers with a fresh install anyway?
• If that doesn't fix your issue, try running the games at a really low resolution (like 800x600) will all the eye candy turned OFF. If you still experience stuttering, your problem lies elsewhere, and you can stop blaming the video card.

 

[ArchAngel777]

I just skimmed through this thread, but I didn't see anywhere that the user tried what BFG suggested, which is the problem, IMO.

Without the motherboard chipset drivers, you are screwed. The problem isn't the ATI card, the problem is you! But, instead of complaining and coming up with ridiculous conclusions, why don't you actually do something about it? You will make a better tech if you just try things that seem logical. Meaning this, if you on confident you have installed everything correctly, then I suggest reinstalling XP, installing the chipset drivers first, then installing the rest of your devices. Whatever the case, get off the computer and start working on it.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: akshayt
aren't ATi drivers better than omega drivers.

So you mean I should use driver cleaner and remove nforce and catalyst and then reinstally catalyst 6.5 and nforce 6.70?
should I oc?

I've been using Omega drivers for a while now and they are great. I'm using the Omega 6.5 drivers right now and have had no problems.

I don't know if you need to uninstall the nforce drivers(probably not) but definitely uninstall the catalyst drivers and CCC if you have it.

 

[akshayt]

should I reinstall drivers without reformat?

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: akshayt
should I reinstall drivers without reformat?

Yes try that first and if that doesn't work then do the reformat.