1900XTX is CRAP

[mancunian]

Originally posted by: m21s

Originally posted by: mancunian

Originally posted by: akshayt
tell me

Okay. I'll tell you.

Try this

This solves alot.

People who buy dell's do not have computer problems?

No, it doesn't solve anything. It is a flippant reply to a flippant person.

It's what it appears he should have done in the first place because system builds these days are easier than ever.


If he can't even be bothered to reply to important questions from people who have tried to help, that web site is where he should go for his next machine.

If he changes his attitude a little, maybe, just maybe, some of the very knowledgable folks on here might help.


But I was pretty pissed to scroll through 5 pages of it thinking how I could help to see "Tell me" at the end of it.


You are clearly more forgiving than I or most others.

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: mancunian
I think the best advice you can be given right now is to re-read this thread thoroughly because you haven't replied to certain posters who have asked you important questions. Questions that it appears you have totally ignored.


Either that, or list EVERYTHING you have tried in one post.


Because I certainly can't be arsed to scroll through it again.

I actually went through 5 pages of it thinking what I could do to help and then saw this:

Originally posted by: akshayt
tell me

And that made me annoyed that I'd even bothered.


List everything you have tried in ONE post so that it's easier for the rest of us to follow.


And do something with your attitude. Otherwise you'll get NO help on here.

yeah, i've basically lost my patience with this guy. at the beginning I was on his side, then as he complained, his rating went down down down.

anyway, i dont think OP will read this reply anyway, so it won't really matter.

 

[akshayt]

AAA is not on
Vsyn is probably not on either

FEAR stutters at 12X10 MAX 2x AA NO AF
FEAR stutters even at 800*600 LOW( I changed the settings in game without restating, so some settings like Soft shadows won't have been changed)
stuttering in the latter is much much much less, but is still there

I have formatted both my drives
I have reinstalled xp
I have installed the drivers again
what else should I do now?

 

[ChiSoxFan]

Tell ya what, I'll trade you my 7900GT KO for your "crappy" x1900xt and we'll call it even. I'll even throw in a cd that includes the magical device drivers for the card. Deal? BTW, this is one of the most entertaining threads I've read on this site.

 

[blckgrffn]

Overheating (system/processor) or power supply could be an issue.

You Antec sounds like a nice unit, but that video card is a lot more load than the old 6600GT. I have had trouble with Antecs not aging nicely.

Nat

 

[m21s]

Originally posted by: mancunian

Originally posted by: m21s

Originally posted by: mancunian

Originally posted by: akshayt
tell me

Okay. I'll tell you.

Try this

This solves alot.

People who buy dell's do not have computer problems?

No, it doesn't solve anything. It is a flippant reply to a flippant person.

It's what it appears he should have done in the first place because system builds these days are easier than ever.


If he can't even be bothered to reply to important questions from people who have tried to help, that web site is where he should go for his next machine.

If he changes his attitude a little, maybe, just maybe, some of the very knowledgable folks on here might help.


But I was pretty pissed to scroll through 5 pages of it thinking how I could help to see "Tell me" at the end of it.


You are clearly more forgiving than I or most others.

Well I am pretty forgiving.
If the OP has stated he owned a DELL and was having these isues, would this thread have changed any?

I doubt it

Clearly he has a hardware issue and his PC being self built or a dell honestly has nothing to do with it.

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: m21s

Originally posted by: mancunian

Originally posted by: m21s

Originally posted by: mancunian

Originally posted by: akshayt
tell me

Okay. I'll tell you.

Try this

This solves alot.

People who buy dell's do not have computer problems?

No, it doesn't solve anything. It is a flippant reply to a flippant person.

It's what it appears he should have done in the first place because system builds these days are easier than ever.


If he can't even be bothered to reply to important questions from people who have tried to help, that web site is where he should go for his next machine.

If he changes his attitude a little, maybe, just maybe, some of the very knowledgable folks on here might help.


But I was pretty pissed to scroll through 5 pages of it thinking how I could help to see "Tell me" at the end of it.


You are clearly more forgiving than I or most others.

Well I am pretty forgiving.
If the OP has stated he owned a DELL and was having these isues, would this thread have changed any?

I doubt it

Clearly he has a hardware issue and his PC being self built or a dell honestly has nothing to do with it.

it probably would have, we would have told him to stop bugging us and talk to dell's tech support.

 

[m21s]

Originally posted by: guoziming

Originally posted by: m21s

Originally posted by: mancunian

Originally posted by: m21s

Originally posted by: mancunian

Originally posted by: akshayt
tell me

Okay. I'll tell you.

Try this

This solves alot.

People who buy dell's do not have computer problems?

No, it doesn't solve anything. It is a flippant reply to a flippant person.

It's what it appears he should have done in the first place because system builds these days are easier than ever.


If he can't even be bothered to reply to important questions from people who have tried to help, that web site is where he should go for his next machine.

If he changes his attitude a little, maybe, just maybe, some of the very knowledgable folks on here might help.


But I was pretty pissed to scroll through 5 pages of it thinking how I could help to see "Tell me" at the end of it.


You are clearly more forgiving than I or most others.

Well I am pretty forgiving.
If the OP has stated he owned a DELL and was having these isues, would this thread have changed any?

I doubt it

Clearly he has a hardware issue and his PC being self built or a dell honestly has nothing to do with it.

it probably would have, we would have told him to stop bugging us and talk to dell's tech support.

And he would have listened? lol

Have you read all 6 pages of this thing....LOL

 

[Polish3d]

XTX is the best card I've owned in terms of difference in performance and image quality.

(owned 6600gt, 7800GTX, X1900XTX)

I agree, problem in chair, not in computer

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: m21s

Originally posted by: guoziming

Originally posted by: m21s

Originally posted by: mancunian

Originally posted by: m21s

Originally posted by: mancunian

Originally posted by: akshayt
tell me

Okay. I'll tell you.

Try this

This solves alot.

People who buy dell's do not have computer problems?

No, it doesn't solve anything. It is a flippant reply to a flippant person.

It's what it appears he should have done in the first place because system builds these days are easier than ever.


If he can't even be bothered to reply to important questions from people who have tried to help, that web site is where he should go for his next machine.

If he changes his attitude a little, maybe, just maybe, some of the very knowledgable folks on here might help.


But I was pretty pissed to scroll through 5 pages of it thinking how I could help to see "Tell me" at the end of it.


You are clearly more forgiving than I or most others.

Well I am pretty forgiving.
If the OP has stated he owned a DELL and was having these isues, would this thread have changed any?

I doubt it

Clearly he has a hardware issue and his PC being self built or a dell honestly has nothing to do with it.

it probably would have, we would have told him to stop bugging us and talk to dell's tech support.

And he would have listened? lol

Have you read all 6 pages of this thing....LOL

well... good point.

i've been with this thread since the very beginning. (oh and it's only 3 pages for me; i changed my page length in my profile).

 

[mancunian]

Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Overheating (system/processor) or power supply could be an issue.

You Antec sounds like a nice unit, but that video card is a lot more load than the old 6600GT. I have had trouble with Antecs not aging nicely.

Nat

This was my first thought. Apparently, ATI state that upwards of 28amps is recommended for X1900 cards.


And your Antec isn't all that. If you read on the net, you'll see that Antec PSUs have been beaten badly by the likes of Tagan and Fortron in the last year.


That Antec has dual rails, people seem to think that dual rail 18a + 18a = 36a. It doesn't.


More on that is explained correctly here.


The PSU cannot be discounted. Only problem is it involves a replacement to find it out.

 

[blckgrffn]

Originally posted by: mancunian

Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Overheating (system/processor) or power supply could be an issue.

You Antec sounds like a nice unit, but that video card is a lot more load than the old 6600GT. I have had trouble with Antecs not aging nicely.

Nat

This was my first thought. Apparently, ATI state that upwards of 28amps is recommended for X1900 cards.


And your Antec isn't all that. If you read on the net, you'll see that Antec PSUs have been beaten badly by the likes of Tagan and Fortron in the last year.


That Antec has dual rails, people seem to think that dual rail 18a + 18a = 36a. It doesn't.


More on that is explained correctly here.


The PSU cannot be discounted. Only problem is it involves a replacement to find it out.

My 480 True Power is in my file server, while the 450W fortron pures nicely in my main rig

 

[sisq0kidd]

I think everyone is going about this the wrong way.

I'm going to give the OP what he wanted to hear.

Yes, the x1900xtx is crap. Return it right away.

 

[mancunian]

Originally posted by: blckgrffn

My 480 True Power is in my file server, while the 450W fortron pures nicely in my main rig

And those wattages are not at the high end either, most likely because those PSUs have decent amperage.


In the thread I linked to, the poster called KarlK explains it very well.

"Wattage in itself is not a spec, it's a result of a circuit's dynamics. In fact knowing how many watts a PSU can theoretically deliver under a certain load is just as useful as knowing how many newtons and coulombs are involved: as far as end users are concerned that means nothing at all. All one needs to pay attention to when choosing a PC PSU is: how many amperes can this unit deliver on the 12 volt rail(s), period."

I have a Thermaltake 560W Purepower and it's crap, it only has 22a on the 12v rail.

So 500W might also not be sufficient for this card, depends on the drain the other components have but he might just be on the borderline, emphasis on the word 'might'.

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I think everyone is going about this the wrong way.

I'm going to give the OP what he wanted to hear.

Yes, the x1900xtx is crap. Return it right away.

nvidia fanboy! boo! burn!

EDIT: oh wait, if you're not a fanboy, i see where you're going with that...

 

[blckgrffn]

Typically if it is the PSU, continued load will further degrade system performance until you get hard locks. That is my experience with power supplies coming up short.

Yeah, the amperes on both of the power supplies are pretty high compared to those $20 600W powersupplies.

Nat

 

[Praxis1452]

you come in saying the X1900XTX sucks cause it takes over 100 posts before you installed your chipset drivers. Have you even installed them yet? jw

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: guoziming

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I think everyone is going about this the wrong way.

I'm going to give the OP what he wanted to hear.

Yes, the x1900xtx is crap. Return it right away.

nvidia fanboy! boo! burn!

EDIT: oh wait, if you're not a fanboy, i see where you're going with that...

I think everyone knew where I was going with that except you

 

[ChiSoxFan]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
you come in saying the X1900XTX sucks cause it takes over 100 posts before you installed your chipset drivers. Have you even installed them yet? jw

Of course not. He's probably spent the last 2 hours overclocking his CPU by 100 MHz. Then he'll come back and ask if it's because the Start Menu is installed on his system.

 

[mancunian]

Originally posted by: ChiSoxFan
Of course not. He's probably spent the last 2 hours overclocking his CPU by 100 MHz. Then he'll come back and ask if it's because the Start Menu is installed on his system.

Quality. Sig duly updated. And my thanks go to you.




He still hasn't done what I asked him either, I guess some people really can't be helped.

When I said post everything he's done in one post, I meant in a bit of detail, i.e. order of driver installation, driver versions, etc.

It would bring together all the things he's done in one post.

Because I certainly aint modifying my profile to allow for more posts per page, not for this reason anyway.

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: guoziming

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I think everyone is going about this the wrong way.

I'm going to give the OP what he wanted to hear.

Yes, the x1900xtx is crap. Return it right away.

nvidia fanboy! boo! burn!

EDIT: oh wait, if you're not a fanboy, i see where you're going with that...

I think everyone knew where I was going with that except you

yeah sometimes i dont think before i post

 

[secretanchitman]

i thought akshayt had a 6600GT according to my thread "my 6600GT is awesome!"...hmm. oh well.

yeah i was thinking chipset drivers too.

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: wizboy11
Well, you conclusion about the X1900XTX being crap....well....you might have "jumped the gun" on that one.

I'm going to list things so try this (or ask yourself the question):
-Is the Windows install fresh?
-Are all the components in the rig fast enough to keep up with X1900XTX
-Do you have all the lastest drivers installed (chipset, video, etc.)
-Is the 6-pin PCIe Power connector plugged into video card?
-Did I miss anything

Anyway, I'm also going to suggest you try out these: XTreme-G Warcat Drivers (and no, this one does not have a virus)

There's also a patch for the above. You don't really need it though (at least I don't think so). But knock yourself out, and install it anyway.

The modified drivers can really help some issues. Just make sure that you uninstall the old ones THE RIGHT WAY:
-Uninstall from Device Manager
-Reboot into safe mode (F8)
-Run Driver Cleaner Pro (using ATI settings, it's real easy)
-Reboot into regular Windows, install drivers
-Reboot, configure, and profit

Also, with a X1900XTX you should be able to use 4xAA, 16xHQAF with most games. Not to mention AAA (or whatever it's called on ATI cards). And you could also change setting to High Quality.

So, have fun with it and I'm sure you'll change your mind.

So in these 7+ Pages of junk that were posted after I posted this (this morning, quoted above), have you done it yet? It may hold the key to better performance???

Also:
-Reformat and Reinstall Windows with ALL the latest drivers (if you havn't done it yet)
-Try the XTX in another computer to make sure it really isn't the problem

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: wizboy11

Originally posted by: wizboy11
Well, you conclusion about the X1900XTX being crap....well....you might have "jumped the gun" on that one.

I'm going to list things so try this (or ask yourself the question):
-Is the Windows install fresh?
-Are all the components in the rig fast enough to keep up with X1900XTX
-Do you have all the lastest drivers installed (chipset, video, etc.)
-Is the 6-pin PCIe Power connector plugged into video card?
-Did I miss anything

Anyway, I'm also going to suggest you try out these: XTreme-G Warcat Drivers (and no, this one does not have a virus)

There's also a patch for the above. You don't really need it though (at least I don't think so). But knock yourself out, and install it anyway.

The modified drivers can really help some issues. Just make sure that you uninstall the old ones THE RIGHT WAY:
-Uninstall from Device Manager
-Reboot into safe mode (F8)
-Run Driver Cleaner Pro (using ATI settings, it's real easy)
-Reboot into regular Windows, install drivers
-Reboot, configure, and profit

Also, with a X1900XTX you should be able to use 4xAA, 16xHQAF with most games. Not to mention AAA (or whatever it's called on ATI cards). And you could also change setting to High Quality.

So, have fun with it and I'm sure you'll change your mind.

So in these 7+ Pages of junk that were posted after I posted this (this morning, quoted above), have you done it yet? It may hold the key to better performance???

Also:
-Reformat and Reinstall Windows with ALL the latest drivers (if you havn't done it yet)
-Try the XTX in another computer to make sure it really isn't the problem

i think he may have died. his XTX got sick of him and ate him.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: guoziming

Originally posted by: wizboy11

Originally posted by: wizboy11
Well, you conclusion about the X1900XTX being crap....well....you might have "jumped the gun" on that one.

I'm going to list things so try this (or ask yourself the question):
-Is the Windows install fresh?
-Are all the components in the rig fast enough to keep up with X1900XTX
-Do you have all the lastest drivers installed (chipset, video, etc.)
-Is the 6-pin PCIe Power connector plugged into video card?
-Did I miss anything

Anyway, I'm also going to suggest you try out these: XTreme-G Warcat Drivers (and no, this one does not have a virus)

There's also a patch for the above. You don't really need it though (at least I don't think so). But knock yourself out, and install it anyway.

The modified drivers can really help some issues. Just make sure that you uninstall the old ones THE RIGHT WAY:
-Uninstall from Device Manager
-Reboot into safe mode (F8)
-Run Driver Cleaner Pro (using ATI settings, it's real easy)
-Reboot into regular Windows, install drivers
-Reboot, configure, and profit

Also, with a X1900XTX you should be able to use 4xAA, 16xHQAF with most games. Not to mention AAA (or whatever it's called on ATI cards). And you could also change setting to High Quality.

So, have fun with it and I'm sure you'll change your mind.

So in these 7+ Pages of junk that were posted after I posted this (this morning, quoted above), have you done it yet? It may hold the key to better performance???

Also:
-Reformat and Reinstall Windows with ALL the latest drivers (if you havn't done it yet)
-Try the XTX in another computer to make sure it really isn't the problem

i think he may have died. his XTX got sick of him and ate him.

LOL. I needed a good laugh...