1920x1080 or 2560x1440

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Bateluer

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I've two of the Korean 1440p panels, but don't OC the refresh rate. Mine are flawless. Stands are flimsy though, and my ShiMians have their buttons on the rear.

Go with the 1440p panels, you've got the budget and the GPU to drive it.
 

Z15CAM

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I just got a qnix 1440 and it easily hit 120hz. Monitor is gorgeous but the light bleed is unacceptable.
I have a $270 CDN (Free Delivery with appox $50 Brokerage Charges in Canada) Korean QNIX QX2510 MATTE 2560x1440 Samsung PLS Display that will run at 120Hz. The colors are fantastic with no dead Pixels. I do believe the Pixel Perfect Advertisement is just a scam as if you read the Guarantee it accounts for a certain number of Dead Pixels. Almost all comments about these monitors report no dead pixels but Back light bleed can very.

The Back Light Bleed on mine is very minimal and no more noticeable then most IPS and PLS displays Ive seen; however, Back light Bleed is also relatively easy to FIX:

If all QNIX PLS displays come a nice as mine - I highly recommend you get one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itJ4Dmsxv0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoxFU04b1Iw&list=PLnVkA6ZcoQv5piavGXZDJv3Wj2E4MT_iE


 
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Sohaltang

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I emailed the major qnix ebay seller about that perfect pixle as the description about amount of dead pixles is exactly the same. He replied that they just copied the ad. Lazy seller. They supposedly do check them and even one dead pixle will be replaced. Still my light bleed I far beyond normal. It looks like a broadway show with two spot lights from the bottom.
 

lehtv

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One specific exception being "gaming". For gaming, refresh rate > resolution IMO. Even for not so fast paced games. Although I only recommend high refresh rate monitors to other people if they play fast paced games in particular... because not everyone is as picky as me
 

MrK6

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People like to blame their poor reflexes on refresh rate IMO. I wouldn't waste my time playing games period if I had to sacrifice panel quality for refresh rate.
 

toyota

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People like to blame their poor reflexes on refresh rate IMO. I wouldn't waste my time playing games period if I had to sacrifice panel quality for refresh rate.
pixel response has nothing to do with input lag. seeing judder and blur is annoying as hell in some games.
 

bystander36

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People like to blame their poor reflexes on refresh rate IMO. I wouldn't waste my time playing games period if I had to sacrifice panel quality for refresh rate.

High refresh rates reduces latency when FPS are also high. This reduced latency creates a more fluid experience, which does help aim a bit, but mostly it just makes you feel more connected to the view making it easier to track targets.
 

Wildman107

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Gaming on a 27 inch monitor at 1440p resolution is terrific.

I have a QNIX 2710. I bought it on Amazon for $308 from a seller that guaranteed no dead pixels and a seller rating to back it up. At the low prices you can get 1440p I honestly don't know why you would go 1080p, unless you were some diehard FPS nut that didn't play any other genre of gaming.

The QNIX I have can overclock to 100hz without artifacts but I didn't have any problem playing Battlefield before that. I overclocked because I love pushing technology.
 

beginner99

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Kind int he same boat as OP. Still at 22" 1680x1050 and upgrading to 1080p display doesn't seem to do much in terms of screen real estate. With higher than 1080p, a new GPU will absolutely be required. Still running a HD5850 and it does not have dvi-d.

I do play FPS, namley BC2 and plan on buying BF4. My current display is a Syncmaster 226BW that supposedly is very good for gaming due to low input lag and good pixel response. However how can I even test that as I can hardly go to a shop and ask they install a shooter so I can try...Anyway if input lag and response time stays the same would be ok.

The HP zr2740w seem to have low input lag but it's pretty expensive compared to koreans. I checked ebay and they are available here too (not US). They are cheaper than a Asus VG248QE and a bit more than BenQ XL2411T. But I'm concerned about the backlight bleed and warranty of Koreans and that most of them are glossy.

Thing is return policy is a bit different here than US so I can't just go buy a 120 hz and IPS and compare them and then return one of them.
 

hans030390

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For me, I found the higher refresh rate (120Hz vs 60Hz) was more beneficial than better picture quality and viewing angles. Why? I'm sensitive to smooth, clear motion. The 120Hz is much easier on my eyes, and the additional motion smoothness helps in gaming. As a gamer (and not all are like me), and I was willing to sacrifice a perfect picture for better motion quality. You can find many nice 120Hz TN panels that look quite good. While IPS can look noticeably better than TN, many exaggerate the difference (just as I likely exaggerate how much of a difference people will see between 60Hz and 120Hz) or try to compare bad TN panels with good IPS panels.

You can get some monitors that do 120Hz+ AND 2D LightBoost. LightBoost can be tricked into running in 2D mode, and it dramatically improves motion blur and ghosting. It is amazing for fast-paced games, as the screen is crystal clear even with fast motion. 120Hz without LightBoost is better than 60Hz in this regard, but enabling LightBoost takes it to an entirely different level. The downside to this is that it takes some tinkering to get right in all games, and any game using it needs to match your refresh rate (100, 110, or 120Hz with LightBoost) or else you will get judder.

I should also mention that some games are capped at 60FPS by default. This is especially true of Unreal Engine 3 games. Sometimes it is a simple setting in the game. Sometimes you have to adjust a few settings in INI files. It can vary, but it's not hard to fix once you identify which games cap the FPS and search online how to fix it. Without LightBoost, you'll want games to run at 80FPS+ to see benefits of a higher refresh rate. Otherwise, motion smoothness will look about the same as it would on a 60Hz monitor.

You also have people who value image quality and viewing angles more than a higher refresh rate and are unwilling to compromise for better motion smoothness. That's perfectly fine and understandable, as I can see the appeal now that I have an IPS monitor myself. On the downside, most IPS monitors are 60Hz.

On the upside, my 27" Qnix monitor does 120Hz, and I use an ICC profile to correct for the gamma changes the monitor OC produces. I literally get the best of both worlds, though I don't get LightBoost (I have a 2nd monitor for that, and only some modern games run at a stable 100FPS+ on high settings). However, OCing these monitors has no guarantees, but it seems like almost everyone can push them to 96Hz at least.

Now, as for resolution, I love the jump from 1080P to 1440P. It is a good bit more taxing on my system, though, so that's something to keep in mind. I think you'd be OK with your rig if you wanted to go to 1440P, but you could expect to turn down the AA and maybe a couple other minor settings to keep your FPS at acceptable levels.

If you haven't had the chance to use a 120Hz monitor, even if just on the Windows desktop, I would recommend you do so. If you have to look for the difference in motion smoothness, you might not be able to notice or appreciate the higher refresh rate (some can't, and that's OK). I would also check out some nice IPS panels. It's up to you to figure out what works best for YOU, as there will always be some sort of compromise with monitors, at least for now.

Edit: If you are the type that easily notices the frame interpolation on 120Hz TVs (that really gross, fake smooth motion), you should notice the same difference between a 60Hz and 120Hz monitor. Except, in this case, you're getting true 120Hz/120FPS vs fake 120Hz/frame interpolation. It's actually good, that is.
 
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hawtdawg

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$500 to $700 is your budget for a monitor?

Personally I prefer IPS vs 120 hz TN, but then again I don't play twitch fps.

You can get an ebay korean for $340 to $400

Amazon has the monoprice 2560x1440 on sale for $400 This is the same monitor than anandtech reviewed except it has a scalar and thus more inputs.

I have this monoprice monitor, the other main difference is that the panel uniformity is very good and they're not supposed to have any dead pixels. The blacks suck, but that's any IPS monitor. It can't be overclocked at all though, you can set it to 75hz, but it frame skips.
 

hans030390

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Oh, I forgot to mention that there are some mods to dramatically decrease the amount of backlight bleed on those Korean monitors. I ended up taking off the entire plastic housing/bezel and mounting the circuit board and vesa mount directly onto the back of the metal frame for the panel (tip: lots of epoxy weld). The plastic frame/bezel/housing is the main reason for the BLB. The second most common reason is the metal frame for the panel exerting too much pressure on the sides of the monitor. You can take that frame off and bend it into a better shape. You don't have to take it to those extremes to get good results, though.

Hey, you can't expect everything to be perfect at $300-350. FWIW, I bought my Qnix from a seller that advertised no dead pixels whatsoever for their pixel perfect displays (as opposed to pixel perfect meaning they allow up to 2-5 dead pixels). Mine has no dead pixels, and I guess I was lucky enough that my BLB wasn't all that bad stock. Still not good enough to keep me from tinkering, though.
 

FalseChristian

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1920x1080. This is 17.55% more pixels than 1680x1050 and you can watch HD movies in all their glory. 2GB of vRAM is enough for 1920x1080 whereas you'd need 3GB or 4GB of vRAM at 2620x1440.
 

Danno21

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2GB of vRAM is enough for 1920x1080 whereas you'd need 3GB or 4GB of vRAM at 2620x1440.

You don't need more than 2GBs of video RAM for current games on the market at 1440p. For a decently modded Skyrim you will hit the cap, but not for games like BF3, Far Cry 3, or Borderlands 2.

I run 1440p with GTX 670 SLI and they run everything fine on RAM even with some AA up. Don't let 1440p scare you if you have 2GB cards. Future generation games coming from PS4/XB1 will likely push the threshold though.
 

etrin

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I just got a QNIX, 0 dead or stuck pixels but it won't oc over 135 LOL
Its great so far might go boom tomorrow

only think is the desktop is TINY games look great so far.

one thing in a game like BF4 is a 2560 with low AA better than a 1080p will massive AA ?

hans030390 is right I looked at other sites with details on modding the qnix and all the users report great fix for bleed.

mine has a little in the lower left corner, only visible in black room with black screen, it has a spot on the right side that looks like a flashlight shining under the bezel but again I can't see these in games or desktop.
I will mod it later.
 
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Face2Face

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Like everybody else I grew up on feminine smaller monitors. I say go 2560/1440 or go home. I will not buy a puny girly monitor again, 27/28" and 2560/1440 AND BEYOND!

Watch a lot of Arnold movies...?

I vote 2560X1440
 

Skott

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personally if you can get a 2560 X 1600 30inch display.

Problem is the current batch of monitors is rather meh in quality and they all have various issues and for their price are not that desirable right now. 1080p and 1440p is where its at now.
 
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People like to blame their poor reflexes on refresh rate IMO. I wouldn't waste my time playing games period if I had to sacrifice panel quality for refresh rate.

I have incredible reflexes. I'd never waste my time playing games at low fps.

Indeed, it is more likely the case that IPS preferrers have slow reflexes, because their perceptual speed is not up to taking advantage of faster displays.

It also goes without question that the disruption of the motion blur is advantageous. Some things you forgot

Lol @ playing at 30 fps immersion. Bad bad bad
 
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