$199 Lindows PC @ Wal Mart

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Quick $199 PC Description: 800 MHz Processor,128 MB memory,10 GB hard drive, CD-ROM drive, Ethernet connection and LindowsOS operating system.

Note no monitor, floppy drive or modem, & a fan-less Cyrix CPU. I haven't bought an assembled computer for 12 years, or have any plans to do so, but for that aunt/uncle/parent/kid, it might work out
 

dew042

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an 800mhz cyrix really is unable to give even basic performance on a lot of things, even stuff like office programs.... beware.

dew.
 

huey1124

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Originally posted by: dew042
an 800mhz cyrix really is unable to give even basic performance on a lot of things, even stuff like office programs.... beware.

dew.


do you have a benchmark against a comparable 800mhz, like a Duron? how bad can it be? i have a relative who still uses a PII 350mhz machine, and it runs office programs fine.




 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: Vultures
Not trying to crap the thread, but Pretty darn bad: Check this out: http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=review&dId=287&dPage=5

Man you weren't kidding! :Q
 

Bobartig

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If this had built in TV out (and that's a pretty big if), then it'd make a great MAME setup PC. All the MAME roms take up about 3.5 GB, and a 500 Mhz celeron (or 800 Mhz Cyrix) should be able to run most roms.
 

ScrapSilicon

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800 MHz Processor,128 MB memory,10 GB hard drive, CD-ROM drive, Ethernet connection and LindowsOS operating system.
800mhzC3=Celly 500 or thereabouts(value $23), mobo(pretty much useless if unable to run any other proc.. value $15)), 128 mb pc133 memory(value $20), 10GB 5.4k harddrive(generous on this..$40), CDRom..unknown speed ..($20),case w/psu ..($24) Ethernet..onboard..($10) and Lindows..uhm..ummm...value $10(as you can download Mandrake or just about any other permutation of Linux for near free..) component cost $162..probably less..the old Andara barebones was/is still a better value than this..sorry if it seems to be a threadcrap but this Via C3 800 is not a hotdeal. btw..that link to a benching was a C3 1ghz and still smoked by a Celly 1ghz which is in turn spanked by any Duron 750 (possibly even a Duron 600-700)
 

tart666

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I have looked for C3 Integer/Office benchmarks, and found none. All of the benchmarks use D3D/OpenGL, CPUmark and other heavy FP modules.

My guess is, on Office apps (strictly integer, word processing/internet), 800 C3 with 133FSB will be as good as 800/100 cely. I just ordered one so I can benchmark it. Not for another week though.

Does anyone have a C3 and can post some Integer benchmarks? If C3 does OK there, this would be a super deal for a really QUIET computer.

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larciel

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why da hell did via cpu 1ghz got 8 FReaking stars ????!?! .. jeeez.. it's performance looks like it's 1/8 of 1ghz celery
 

sygyzy

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You guys dont know what you are talking about. the C3 800 was very popular in the Shuttle SV24 crowd because of it's low cooling requirements. I play dvd's, divx's, run Office XP, stream videos, the works and it's hooked up to my TV. For office applications and nearly anything else besides heavy gaming, it'll be fine.
 

comprotech

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I must say that for somebody who doesn't know how to build a computer (sometimes we forget these people exist, let alone make up the majority of the population), a $200 PC is a hot deal.
 

KF

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
You guys dont know what you are talking about. the C3 800 was very popular in the Shuttle SV24 crowd because of it's low cooling requirements. I play dvd's, divx's, run Office XP, stream videos, the works and it's hooked up to my TV. For office applications and nearly anything else besides heavy gaming, it'll be fine.

Yes the C3 will do basic apps fine, especially free Linux apps. Its the Floating Point section of the processor that is so weak. You wouldn't want to try it with recent 3D games. Then again the video on this mobo is probably not up to it either.

If you need to do a lot of heavy duty image processing in your "office apps", and which may possibly use FP, this Cyrix is the going to be very slow.

No floppy drive? Very odd. I think you ought to have one. No modem? Practically everyone would like one.

I looked at the benchmarks link. Sandra must be an even more abysmal guide to true performance than I thought. (The tests are all synthetic, no functional apps.) If it were really testing the ALU, it should be about 3/4 of a Celeron/PentiumII. Sysmark Business does give numbers in that area. Business Winstone has the Cyrix and Celeron very close. These are the apps that the Cyrix is geared to. Winstone Content Creation gives about 60-70% of a Celeron.

3D Mark 2000 gives the C3 about 50% of a Celeron. Maybe it's useable on some not-too-old 3D games after all, or maybe the video on the mobo is so slow even the Celeron is choked down. We've got a Celeron and C3 identical on Quake III, but both are 24 frames per second with that video they used. You might get by. However, I believe the C3 does have 3Dnow, so if a game uses it, the C3 might be OK with decent video.

The rationale for using a Cyrix chip instead of a Celeron chip is pretty slight based on price, and maybe has more to do with getting by with a weaker power supply, poorer ventilation, and a cheaper HSF.


>800mhzC3=Celly 500 or thereabouts(value $23), mobo(pretty much useless if unable to run any other proc.. value $15)),
>128 mb pc133 memory(value $20), 10GB 5.4k harddrive(generous on this..$40), CDRom..unknown speed ..($20),
>case w/psu ..($24) Ethernet..onboard..($10) and Lindows..uhm..ummm...value $10

You didn't include a sound card, video card, keyboard, mouse and speakers.
It is expandable. Has 2 PCI and 1 ISA (great for a modem).

The CDROM is 52x.

A mobo for $15? That may be its value, but I doubt any manufacturer can deliver one for that price with on-board video and sound. If they can, where? I want to buy one.

They don't list any Celerons for less than $55 on pricewatch. Durons go as low as $26.

If this comes with an OS (Lindows?) already installed, this system may be useable as is, unlike a barebones whatever.

 

Placer14

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Hey yalls....this isn't a bad deal. Considering the following.

::winces:: My father purchased an e-Machine a while back. It had a Cyrix M2 366MHz, 64Mb PC100 DIMM, and onboard everything. I threw a 10Gb HD in there with another 64Mb RAM and it's now running WinXP, with Office XP, and my dad can run Photoshop and edit full pages of graphics at 600dpi. Now if my computer can do this, I wonder how bad a Cyrix 800 would be...really now.

I wouldn't be caught dead with it, but it would be great for my parents who are computer-illiterate. I saw it at Walmat the other day and Lindows is fairly nice considering. I'm sure Lindows is only being used here for it's name. I'd probably put Mandrake on it. I dunno...still decent deal.

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Sure it's a little slow at times, but it runs well most of the time.
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Pardus

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prob only good as a print station/linux/virus test box, i wouldnt dare to play games or do graphic work on this.
 

Budarow

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I'm running a P2 350 MHz PC right now and can play "newer" games just fine with most eye candy turned up a bit (i.e., res. 1024 X 768, 32 bit color, high detail, 3d sound, etc.). I play Serious Sam 1st Encounter, HH2003, Freedom Force, etc. I think my GeForce3 Ti200 makes more of a difference than my slow cpu. And office products are very fast (word, excel, etc.).

Granted...I like my Duron 900 MHz more and I'm sure I'll like the AMD XP box I'm putting together even more.

AMD PCs are so cheap to build right now that I don't think I'd consider a cyrix chip, but if a few hundred dollars means deciding between TO HAVE or NOT TO HAVE a PC...I guess I'd go with the cheapest solution available. Or wait until I saved up some more $$ and buy what I like.

Best of luck.
 

sonatageek

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If the 800mhz C3 is sufficient, why not get the Shuttle SV24 from Newegg with the C3 processor installed for $175 shipped. Sure you need to add the hard drive, ram and cd drive but with the after rebate prices on those items the cost would be very close to $199.00. Granted, if you don't know how to piece together a system or load software....not a good option.

Just an observation.
 

T2T III

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I must say that for somebody who doesn't know how to build a computer (sometimes we forget these people exist, let alone make up the majority of the population), a $200 PC is a hot deal.
Agreed. The component price of $162 which was quoted above also didn't include shipping. To build a box, you'd easily accumulate shipping charges of $40, or more - unless you were to purchase everything from one vendor.

However, I wonder if Wal-Mart has one of these on display?
 

churchdoesmatter

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I just bought one of these for my aunt. Damn, I just found out that Warcraft III won't work on this ... oh well, i'll format it , put winxp sp1 corp on it, install office xp sp2 , all the necessary apps, put a floppy + modem and it'll be great for 'em
 

Mallow

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So it comes with Lindows pre-installed? Weird. I didn't even think the final version of Lindows was out :/
 

Macro2

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RE:"an 800mhz cyrix really is unable to give even basic performance on a lot of things, even stuff like office programs.... beware."

I disagree. It will be fine for most everything. Especially office stuff.

Lindows is Linux anyway. Things run faster on it than Windows.

Mac
 
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