1GB NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT uses which memory?

[DEredita]

What memory does the 1GB NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT video card use? Is it GDDR2 or GDDR3? I've seen several video card in the past go with slower memory when the amount of memory is doubled on them. Thoughts? Also, is this video card supposed to be quicker than the 8800GT, or it just a rebadge? Should I hold out an wait to see the HD 4870 first before pulling the trigger on this new computer?

 

[Martimus]

I would wait until the end of the month if for no other reason then the prices of the cards you are looking at now will go down with all the new cards being released. Also if one of the new cards is in your price range and performs better than what is out now, you can pick the new card up.

 

[angry hampster]

It will be a new card entirely, and it will likely use GDDR3 or GDDR4 memory. GDDR2 is aging.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Odds are GDDR3, I doubt they'll use GDDR2 on any of their 9 series cards.

 

[error8]

GDDR 2 is only used in entry level videocards, so no way on the 9800 GT.

 

[HOOfan 1]

Originally posted by: angry hampster
It will be a new card entirely, and it will likely use GDDR3 or GDDR4 memory. GDDR2 is aging.

It will be as much of a new card over the 8800GT as the 9800GTX was over the 8800GTS. A more robust PCB and a more robust cooler, but otherwise, the same thing

nVidia does not and will not use GDDR4....even ATI doesn't want to use it anymore.

I am also sure that like with all the other G92 cards with a 256bit bus, the 1GB of RAM will not only go to waste, but will provide worse performance than those with 512MB of RAM

 

[unr3al]

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1

Originally posted by: angry hampster
It will be a new card entirely, and it will likely use GDDR3 or GDDR4 memory. GDDR2 is aging.

It will be as much of a new card over the 8800GT as the 9800GTX was over the 8800GTS. A more robust PCB and a more robust cooler, but otherwise, the same thing

nVidia does not and will not use GDDR4....even ATI doesn't want to use it anymore.

I am also sure that like with all the other G92 cards with a 256bit bus, the 1GB of RAM will not only go to waste, but will provide worse performance than those with 512MB of RAM

The 9600GT is slightly slower than the HD3870 Radeon, even. So not exactly a comparison to the 8800GT. I would rather compare it to the 8600GTS and then call it an improvement. The 9800GTX is also much faster than the 8800GTS so that would also be a very poor comparison.

I would agree on the weaker performance though, especially at lower resolutions, because even the HD3850 Radeon 1GB has weaker performance than the 512MB versions when you look at lower res. All has to do with memory latencies.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: unr3al

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1

Originally posted by: angry hampster
It will be a new card entirely, and it will likely use GDDR3 or GDDR4 memory. GDDR2 is aging.

It will be as much of a new card over the 8800GT as the 9800GTX was over the 8800GTS. A more robust PCB and a more robust cooler, but otherwise, the same thing

nVidia does not and will not use GDDR4....even ATI doesn't want to use it anymore.

I am also sure that like with all the other G92 cards with a 256bit bus, the 1GB of RAM will not only go to waste, but will provide worse performance than those with 512MB of RAM

The 9600GT is slightly slower than the HD3870 Radeon, even. So not exactly a comparison to the 8800GT. I would rather compare it to the 8600GTS and then call it an improvement. The 9800GTX is also much faster than the 8800GTS so that would also be a very poor comparison.

I would agree on the weaker performance though, especially at lower resolutions, because even the HD3850 Radeon 1GB has weaker performance than the 512MB versions when you look at lower res. All has to do with memory latencies.

OK, so let's see:

The 9800 GTX is not much faster then 8800GTS, only around 5-10% and sometimes it's about the same. Check benchies: :http://www.guru3d.com/article/...gtx-512mb-review-pov/9

Also, 9600 GT is quite in the same league of performance with ATI 3870. Ati is some 5% slower with AA on and some 5% faster with AA off. So there is no real winner here, depends only if you like or dislike AA.
http://www.techspot.com/articl...deon-hd3870/page8.html

 

[HOOfan 1]

Originally posted by: unr3al
The 9600GT is slightly slower than the HD3870 Radeon, even. So not exactly a comparison to the 8800GT. I would rather compare it to the 8600GTS and then call it an improvement. The 9800GTX is also much faster than the 8800GTS so that would also be a very poor comparison.

I would agree on the weaker performance though, especially at lower resolutions, because even the HD3850 Radeon 1GB has weaker performance than the 512MB versions when you look at lower res. All has to do with memory latencies.

1) Who said anything about the 9600GT? The first time it was mentioned in this thread was by you.

2) The 9600GT is faster then the HD3870 in most benchmarks

3) The 9800GTX IS NOT MUCH faster than the 8800GTS and like I said...it is just an overclocked 800GTS with a new cooler and more robust PCB

 

[yepp]

GDDR3

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/...lsa_s_booth/index.html

 

[Piuc2020]

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: unr3al

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1

Originally posted by: angry hampster
It will be a new card entirely, and it will likely use GDDR3 or GDDR4 memory. GDDR2 is aging.

It will be as much of a new card over the 8800GT as the 9800GTX was over the 8800GTS. A more robust PCB and a more robust cooler, but otherwise, the same thing

nVidia does not and will not use GDDR4....even ATI doesn't want to use it anymore.

I am also sure that like with all the other G92 cards with a 256bit bus, the 1GB of RAM will not only go to waste, but will provide worse performance than those with 512MB of RAM

The 9600GT is slightly slower than the HD3870 Radeon, even. So not exactly a comparison to the 8800GT. I would rather compare it to the 8600GTS and then call it an improvement. The 9800GTX is also much faster than the 8800GTS so that would also be a very poor comparison.

I would agree on the weaker performance though, especially at lower resolutions, because even the HD3850 Radeon 1GB has weaker performance than the 512MB versions when you look at lower res. All has to do with memory latencies.

OK, so let's see:

The 9800 GTX is not much faster then 8800GTS, only around 5-10% and sometimes it's about the same. Check benchies: :http://www.guru3d.com/article/...gtx-512mb-review-pov/9

Also, 9600 GT is quite in the same league of performance with ATI 3870. Ati is some 5% slower with AA on and some 5% faster with AA off. So there is no real winner here, depends only if you like or dislike AA.
http://www.techspot.com/articl...deon-hd3870/page8.html

Just one question, who would ever dislike AA?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: unr3al

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1

Originally posted by: angry hampster
It will be a new card entirely, and it will likely use GDDR3 or GDDR4 memory. GDDR2 is aging.

It will be as much of a new card over the 8800GT as the 9800GTX was over the 8800GTS. A more robust PCB and a more robust cooler, but otherwise, the same thing

nVidia does not and will not use GDDR4....even ATI doesn't want to use it anymore.

I am also sure that like with all the other G92 cards with a 256bit bus, the 1GB of RAM will not only go to waste, but will provide worse performance than those with 512MB of RAM

The 9600GT is slightly slower than the HD3870 Radeon, even. So not exactly a comparison to the 8800GT. I would rather compare it to the 8600GTS and then call it an improvement. The 9800GTX is also much faster than the 8800GTS so that would also be a very poor comparison.

I would agree on the weaker performance though, especially at lower resolutions, because even the HD3850 Radeon 1GB has weaker performance than the 512MB versions when you look at lower res. All has to do with memory latencies.

OK, so let's see:

The 9800 GTX is not much faster then 8800GTS, only around 5-10% and sometimes it's about the same. Check benchies: :http://www.guru3d.com/article/...gtx-512mb-review-pov/9

Also, 9600 GT is quite in the same league of performance with ATI 3870. Ati is some 5% slower with AA on and some 5% faster with AA off. So there is no real winner here, depends only if you like or dislike AA.
http://www.techspot.com/articl...deon-hd3870/page8.html

Just one question, who would ever dislike AA?

For the record I never use AA. To me I just don't see a big difference when I'm in game with it vs. without it.

 

[BlueAcolyte]

Eww, blurry. Maybe 2x or 4x, but thats it.

 

[taltamir]

is the 9800GT supposed to be a 9600GT, or a 9800GTX? cause the real 9800GT is not out yet, and it will be a 55nm shrink of the G92 architecture. But you will have to wait some time for it.

The 9600GT is a crap choice. A 8800GT is a much better purchase.
The 9800GTX is a higher clocked 8800GTS 512 with a few extra features. Specifically:
1. A power shutoff alowing it to be completely turned off when used on hybrid power boards when not gaming.
2. 3 way SLI.
3. New Purevideo features: aka, post processing effects for movies, useful if you plan to use it as both a HTPC/Console replacement, for a non console replacing HTPC you should use a lower powered video card that makes less heat and noise, and can't handle games
4. Better power circuitry on the board allowing a higher max OC/default clock speed.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Just one question, who would ever dislike AA?

I use AA whenever possible. However, several recent games like Stalker and those based on the Unreal3 engine don't support AA due to the use of deferred shading.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Just one question, who would ever dislike AA?

I use AA whenever possible. However, several recent games like Stalker and those based on the Unreal3 engine don't support AA due to the use of deferred shading.

Unreal3 has AA if you force it from the driver.

 

[taltamir]

I have disabled AA on occasion before because it actually looked worse.
And I USUALLY disable AA because, while prettier, it annihilates my FPS and gives only marginal benefits.