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hemmy

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robains

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I have two MSI 7800GTX 512MB in an Asus A8N-SLI Premium with an AMD FX57 and my 3DMark05 scores are 18230 so I'm not sure what is going on with your setup? If I test with single 7800GTX 512MB, I get 10353. I'm running the AMD FX57 at 3.0Ghz on a Zalman 9500 air cooler/heatsink.

Don't waste your money on X2 (dual core) processor as X2 will do nothing to make your games run faster and is a lower clock speed than an FX57 processor. Don't buy the X2 hype until you start seeing developers producing software that actually is coded for more than one processor (even then the gains will be very much determine by how good the code is).

I'd check your BIOS settings and/or motherboard drivers (assuming you have the latest nVidia 81.95 drivers).

Rob.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: robains
I have two MSI 7800GTX 512MB in an Asus A8N-SLI Premium with an AMD FX57 and my 3DMark05 scores are 18230 so I'm not sure what is going on with your setup? If I test with single 7800GTX 512MB, I get 10353. I'm running the AMD FX57 at 3.0Ghz on a Zalman 9500 air cooler/heatsink.

Don't waste your money on X2 (dual core) processor as X2 will do nothing to make your games run faster and is a lower clock speed than an FX57 processor. Don't buy the X2 hype until you start seeing developers producing software that actually is coded for more than one processor (even then the gains will be very much determine by how good the code is).

I'd check your BIOS settings and/or motherboard drivers (assuming you have the latest nVidia 81.95 drivers).

Rob.

You are aware that NVIDIA's latest drivers add multi-core support for single threaded games aren't you. Testing has shown improvement even for single threaded games. It would be interesting to compare a dualcore at 2800 and you FX-57 at 3000 to see who would win (at lower resolutions of course because the higher is probably still going to be video card limited but with dual 7800GTX 512's maybe not, LOL)
 

robains

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I'm a software engineer so I do happen to know a lot about "threaded" applications and how they can effectively be used on multiple CPUs.

Do you have a link to these claimed "performance gains"? I'd be surprised if they have anything to do with "multi-core support" -- they may perform some other tricks so that the graphics processor can process more tasks simultaneously to get the job done faster but those same tricks would be available to single or dual core processors. They may have provided "support" so that if they receive two or more threads at the same time which they can martial the threads to process them without necessarily using FIFO (that would be DX9 function dependant -- meaning you can't render pixel shader until you've rendered the polygon and added texture surfaces). So some task may translate well others no benefit -- however, it is a good direction to go in and I'm glad nVidia are thinking ahead.

But sure, bring on any X2 processor against FX57 and use current crop of games and lets see which processor does better. From all the Test results I've seen for real world frame rate improvements in games the FX57 is still top of the food chain.

But regardless of the "supported" features, it will be a long time before we see games that truely benefit and use more than one processor (afterall, multi-processor systems have already been around a LONG LONG time and that didn't motivate game developers to start coding for multiple threads assigned to specific CPUs). But even optimistic use of multiple processors will rarely produce anything more than a 25-33% performance increase. Classic example of this is current 4 and 8 CPU servers that can't process a task any faster, but can handle many more tasks at the same time so that they don't slow down as much when loaded up with threads -- at some point tasks are waiting on each other to finish so the next logical dependancy can start -- so having dual cores will never ever give you 2X performance increase even with the most efficient game designed for multiple processors.

Don't fall for the X2 hype -- we can hope it will move game developers forward towards CPU specific threading (not just general OS/driver threading) but that is just a "hope" -- money & time will ultimately either leave it in or out of the game/software design.

Rob.

 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: robains
I have two MSI 7800GTX 512MB in an Asus A8N-SLI Premium with an AMD FX57 and my 3DMark05 scores are 18230 so I'm not sure what is going on with your setup? If I test with single 7800GTX 512MB, I get 10353. I'm running the AMD FX57 at 3.0Ghz on a Zalman 9500 air cooler/heatsink.

Don't waste your money on X2 (dual core) processor as X2 will do nothing to make your games run faster and is a lower clock speed than an FX57 processor. Don't buy the X2 hype until you start seeing developers producing software that actually is coded for more than one processor (even then the gains will be very much determine by how good the code is).

I'd check your BIOS settings and/or motherboard drivers (assuming you have the latest nVidia 81.95 drivers).

Rob.

Got a link to that first 3DMark05 score you mention? The world record right now is sitting at ~18,600 and that was with LN2 on the cpu and dryice on the cards.

An X2 will score higher in 3DMark05 than a comparatively clocked single-core processor. Some guy tested the two on the exact same system and the X2 was about equal to the single-core even though it was running at ~300Mhz less. The FX-57 is the overall king of gaming right now but there are a few games that actually run quicker on a dual-core.
 

robains

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I didn't publish the score as I was not using "certified" drivers at the time I ran 3DMark05. 3DMark05 isn't what I consider a real world test, frame rates from the various current crop of games is more significant when comparing FX57 to X2. Don't get me wrong 3DMark05 is good to test relative performances changes from within the same system as hardware is tweaked and to get an overall "ball park" representation relative to other similar systems. But there is a lot that can be done to a system to achieve an extremely high 3DMark05 score for the duration of the test and not much longer than that duration. So I don't use 3DMark05 as the end all be all for performance testing and tuning.

What game(s) run faster on the X2?? I'd like to test them out to see how this is being accomplished. Even Microsoft's FS2004 doesn't run faster on X2 and it is supposed to have Multi-CPU support -- but again the term "support" is pretty generic and could mean anything from the game won't crash if 2 CPUs are found ... to specific CPU's are assigned threads and faster processing results.

 

Elfear

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Here is a big cpu comparison. Scroll down and you can find a few games that run quicker on the X2 4800+ than the FX-57.

I agree with you about 3DMark05, it's not as important as real-world gaming but it is a good indicator of overall perfromance in relation to games. I'd still like to see an ORB link to see how you achieved that score of 18,230.
 

allies

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Originally posted by: Elfear
Here is a big cpu comparison. Scroll down and you can find a few games that run quicker on the X2 4800+ than the FX-57.

I agree with you about 3DMark05, it's not as important as real-world gaming but it is a good indicator of overall perfromance in relation to games. I'd still like to see an ORB link to see how you achieved that score of 18,230.

As would I...
 
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