2 helicopters collide following police pursuit in Phoenix

[BZeto]

I used to live in the apartment complex accross the street from the park they crashed in.

 

[Adul]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: cheezy321
Wow, I didnt know there were so many local Phoenix ATOT'ers.

I live down in tempe, wheres everyone else located?

i live in mesa and work in phx. i spend much time in tempe tho, lots of family around here

I live in laveen and work in scottsdale.

 

[zoiks]

So the news made the news.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: Syrch

Originally posted by: cheezy321
Wow, I didnt know there were so many local Phoenix ATOT'ers.

I live down in tempe, wheres everyone else located?

im in tempe right near the 202 and rural

202 and Rural? Damn we are close. I live off of 5th st. and Mill ave. Right behind that trails

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Originally posted by: Medellon
The article also says the man driving the stolen vehicle could be held accountable for the deaths of the people in the chopper. I know this is a tragic accident and the man is probably some low life creep with a history of crime, but how can he be at fault for the choppers colliding? Seems like another example of putting the blame elsewhere and not taking responsibility for ones actions.

According to the law, deaths that occur as a result of and, during the commision of a crime are the responsibility of the suspect whether directly caused by him or not.

 

[Syrch]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: Medellon
The article also says the man driving the stolen vehicle could be held accountable for the deaths of the people in the chopper. I know this is a tragic accident and the man is probably some low life creep with a history of crime, but how can he be at fault for the choppers colliding? Seems like another example of putting the blame elsewhere and not taking responsibility for ones actions.

According to the law, deaths that occur as a result of and, during the commision of a crime are the responsibility of the suspect whether directly caused by him or not.

wow are you serious? My g/f who is at home just told me they have the man in custody. So he will be charged with their deaths?

 

[hanoverphist]

i lived in a house that used to be in that parking lot north of ya when i was a wee lad of 1 or 2. ive only heard the stories of it and the neighborhood, but i still thought it was funny. i did live on 5th and hardy for a while tho... pretty fun neighborhood back in the day.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Originally posted by: Syrch

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: Medellon
The article also says the man driving the stolen vehicle could be held accountable for the deaths of the people in the chopper. I know this is a tragic accident and the man is probably some low life creep with a history of crime, but how can he be at fault for the choppers colliding? Seems like another example of putting the blame elsewhere and not taking responsibility for ones actions.

According to the law, deaths that occur as a result of and, during the commision of a crime are the responsibility of the suspect whether directly caused by him or not.

wow are you serious? My g/f who is at home just told me they have the man in custody. So he will be charged with their deaths?

Depends on the prosecution but, he certainly could be.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
i lived in a house that used to be in that parking lot north of ya when i was a wee lad of 1 or 2. ive only heard the stories of it and the neighborhood, but i still thought it was funny. i did live on 5th and hardy for a while tho... pretty fun neighborhood back in the day.

yeah the whole neighborhood is completely changing. My patio is a stones throw away from where they are putting in those high rise condos. Those are going to be really nice once they are done.

Its a real pain in the ass living there when they do events tho. For example on the 4th of July they were charging $10 to park in our parking lot! Whenever they do events I have to go down to my friends car and drive in with them with my parking pass

 

[Adul]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: Syrch

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: Medellon
The article also says the man driving the stolen vehicle could be held accountable for the deaths of the people in the chopper. I know this is a tragic accident and the man is probably some low life creep with a history of crime, but how can he be at fault for the choppers colliding? Seems like another example of putting the blame elsewhere and not taking responsibility for ones actions.

According to the law, deaths that occur as a result of and, during the commision of a crime are the responsibility of the suspect whether directly caused by him or not.

wow are you serious? My g/f who is at home just told me they have the man in custody. So he will be charged with their deaths?

Depends on the prosecution but, he certainly could be.

wow, sucks to be him.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: Medellon
The article also says the man driving the stolen vehicle could be held accountable for the deaths of the people in the chopper. I know this is a tragic accident and the man is probably some low life creep with a history of crime, but how can he be at fault for the choppers colliding? Seems like another example of putting the blame elsewhere and not taking responsibility for ones actions.

According to the law, deaths that occur as a result of and, during the commision of a crime are the responsibility of the suspect whether directly caused by him or not.

To a point, I agree with that law, but in this case it shouldn't even be considered. That;s like charging someone if a reporter walks in front of a bus while filming a story. It MAY be "collateral damage," but nothing the person involved in the original crime should be charged with.

 

[13Gigatons]

Does the dumbass media really need helicopters ?

 

[jinduy]

wow no one said darwinism yet? let me be the first!

 

[randumb]

Originally posted by: cheezy321
Wow, I didnt know there were so many local Phoenix ATOT'ers.

I live down in tempe, wheres everyone else located?

I live in PV/Scottsdale, go to school in Boston.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: Medellon
The article also says the man driving the stolen vehicle could be held accountable for the deaths of the people in the chopper. I know this is a tragic accident and the man is probably some low life creep with a history of crime, but how can he be at fault for the choppers colliding? Seems like another example of putting the blame elsewhere and not taking responsibility for ones actions.

According to the law, deaths that occur as a result of and, during the commision of a crime are the responsibility of the suspect whether directly caused by him or not.

To a point, I agree with that law, but in this case it shouldn't even be considered. That;s like charging someone if a reporter walks in front of a bus while filming a story. It MAY be "collateral damage," but nothing the person involved in the original crime should be charged with.

I think it's more like charging the perp who was mugging someone in the back of the bus and the bus driver looks in his mirror to see what's going on back there when he hits said reporter. At any rate, it can definitely get convoluted in a hurry.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: Medellon
The article also says the man driving the stolen vehicle could be held accountable for the deaths of the people in the chopper. I know this is a tragic accident and the man is probably some low life creep with a history of crime, but how can he be at fault for the choppers colliding? Seems like another example of putting the blame elsewhere and not taking responsibility for ones actions.

According to the law, deaths that occur as a result of and, during the commision of a crime are the responsibility of the suspect whether directly caused by him or not.

To a point, I agree with that law, but in this case it shouldn't even be considered. That;s like charging someone if a reporter walks in front of a bus while filming a story. It MAY be "collateral damage," but nothing the person involved in the original crime should be charged with.

I agree. If one of the cops who was chasing him crashed and died, charge him with that. If he ran a red light and someone swerved to avoid him and ran over a pedestrian, charge him with that. But blaming him for the deaths of helicopter pilots, I think that's tenuous at best. It may be legal, but I don't think it's right.

 

[Ronstang]

I am surprised this does not happen more often with the idiot journalists trying to get "shocking" video on the news at 5.

 

[waggy]

heard they are charging the guy running with the deaths!

 

[maziwanka]

honestly. if i was part of the family of those in the helicopter who died, i would not want them putting those deaths on the driver of the stolen vehicle.

it demeans the whole thing.

 

[randay]

two helicopters dont just collide. there has to have been serious pilot error or a complete breakdown of logic involving a pilot or two here.

 

[Kadarin]

Interesting that the pic on the front page of CNN.com has the (apparent) bodies edited out.

 

[imported_Imp]

That's a shame. Going to admit it and say I love watching these chases. However, can't say I was all that surprised. If you've ever watched one from a helicopter camera's perspective, they are always flying across the paths of other birds, and pretty closely. Always got me me thinking if anyone has ever collided. Too bad.

 

[blackllotus]

Wow wtf? Its not the drivers fault that the helicopters collided. What bullshit.

 

[iamaelephant]

The only reason people watch car chases is to see carnage and mayhem. Bloodthirsty rednecks got what they want.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: randay
two helicopters dont just collide. there has to have been serious pilot error or a complete breakdown of logic involving a pilot or two here.

One may have been above the other.