2 Marines disciplined over puppy-tossing video

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alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Was it really real? Or is it one of those things done by the military to seem like its doing something?

It's a stupid rodent. The only reason the military punished them was because they were dumb enough to video tape it and get it on the internet.

It may rank a little higher than a rodent but what you say is true.

It was a defenseless animal that's been bred to trust people.

So were some of the cats that I used to shoot on our farm. <shrug>

A feral cat was never bred to trust people...the almost can never be socialized post-birth.

Now if you were shooting someone's pet's in MOST areas that would have been considered criminal.

A feral cat <> house cat.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Gothgar

So many people say and post shit way worse than a dog dying but when someone says something about it people defend the stupid mutt to the death, the soldiers do not deserve death or anything more than what they got, it was stupid but stop being so fucking sensitive.

please explain?
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Agentbolt

Congrats, you've just proven yourself to be a retarded, soulless douchebag for the 1 millionth time on ATOT. Alkemyst will be happy to be present you with your medal.

Ahh sniff, I remember that day I pinned the Golden Teabag on you...such a wee little boy it seemed like only yesterday when playing pokemon was so important for you....oh wait. Well you'll grow out of it I am sure.

BTW stop licking the Golden Teabag...it's salty but you will tarnish it.
 

TallBill

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Apr 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: TallBill
It's a stupid rodent. The only reason the military punished them was because they were dumb enough to video tape it and get it on the internet.

Your phylogenetic skills fall into the same category as your class as a human being: Missing In Action.

Oh, so you must have been over there then? Dogs are indeed disease infested rodents in the middle east. The live in the wild. It's like killing a rabid squirrel.

That being said, I am completely heartless to animals anyways. Loving an animal is sick and disgusting.

These guys were just dumb for videotaping it. Same as the guys who threw a deftec at the sheep. Some times you have to do dumb stuff to let off the stress of war. Just don't put it on youtube.
 

brandonb

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Has anybody actually heard the record of that marine who explained the situation?

It went something like this:

"The dog was traveling with insurgents who we killed. The dog was all alone in the middle of a hot desert. It would have just wandered around and died of starvation or thirst, or eaten by another animal. We can't take in animals if we want to, we can't bring them back to base. We usually just shoot them on the spot because we have no choice, but we had to save our ammo. So we did what we thought was most humane, we threw him off a cliff to give him a quick ending. Do you think we enjoy having to do that? Absolutely not."

Does that change anybody's tune? I'm sure most in the military agree with the marine, unfortunately everybody is up in arms over the poor puppy, they had to make him a fall guy because it leaked to the internet. Even though this stuff happens on a daily basis.
 

TallBill

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Apr 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: brandonb
Has anybody actually heard the record of that marine who explained the situation?

It went something like this:

"The dog was traveling with insurgents who we killed. The dog was all alone in the middle of a hot desert. It would have just wandered around and died of starvation or thirst, or eaten by another animal. We can't take in animals if we want to, we can't bring them back to base. We usually just shoot them on the spot because we have no choice, but we had to save our ammo. So we did what we thought was most humane, we threw him off a cliff to give him a quick ending. Do you think we enjoy having to do that? Absolutely not."

Does that change anybody's tune? I'm sure most in the military agree with the marine, unfortunately everybody is up in arms over the poor puppy, they had to make him a fall guy because it leaked to the internet. Even though this stuff happens on a daily basis.

His story is 50% bullshit. The part about killing them is definitely true, depending on where you are at. I've said it before, and so has John of Sheffield but people dont believe it.

The other part about enjoying it is a lie, and the part about saving ammo is a lie.
 

TehMac

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Aug 18, 2006
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Originally posted by: holden j caufield
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Was it really real? Or is it one of those things done by the military to seem like its doing something?

It's a stupid rodent. The only reason the military punished them was because they were dumb enough to video tape it and get it on the internet.

It may rank a little higher than a rodent but what you say is true.

It was a defenseless animal that's been bred to trust people.

So were some of the cats that I used to shoot on our farm. <shrug>

LOL karma is going to come around hopefully there will be interest tacked on

Do you know the circumstances?

You're a useless tool.

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: jpeyton
While they're at it, discipline these idiot soldiers too.

At first I thought that was a real grenade.
Winning hearts and minds, nonetheless.

yes, that represents 100% of all soldiers. Nicely done.
 

dbk

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Apr 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: brandonb
Has anybody actually heard the record of that marine who explained the situation?

It went something like this:

"The dog was traveling with insurgents who we killed. The dog was all alone in the middle of a hot desert. It would have just wandered around and died of starvation or thirst, or eaten by another animal. We can't take in animals if we want to, we can't bring them back to base. We usually just shoot them on the spot because we have no choice, but we had to save our ammo. So we did what we thought was most humane, we threw him off a cliff to give him a quick ending. Do you think we enjoy having to do that? Absolutely not."

Does that change anybody's tune? I'm sure most in the military agree with the marine, unfortunately everybody is up in arms over the poor puppy, they had to make him a fall guy because it leaked to the internet. Even though this stuff happens on a daily basis.

Wow, why couldn't the marines have given the dog to some Iraqi family or something?? I wonder what type of discipline the marines got for this act?
 

Whisper

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Feb 25, 2000
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Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: brandonb
Has anybody actually heard the record of that marine who explained the situation?

It went something like this:

"The dog was traveling with insurgents who we killed. The dog was all alone in the middle of a hot desert. It would have just wandered around and died of starvation or thirst, or eaten by another animal. We can't take in animals if we want to, we can't bring them back to base. We usually just shoot them on the spot because we have no choice, but we had to save our ammo. So we did what we thought was most humane, we threw him off a cliff to give him a quick ending. Do you think we enjoy having to do that? Absolutely not."

Does that change anybody's tune? I'm sure most in the military agree with the marine, unfortunately everybody is up in arms over the poor puppy, they had to make him a fall guy because it leaked to the internet. Even though this stuff happens on a daily basis.

Wow, why couldn't the marines have given the dog to some Iraqi family or something?? I wonder what type of discipline the marines got for this act?

My guess is because they don't want to be seen essentially as a branch of the humane society, or something along those lines.

The reasoning behind it makes sense, but I agree with Tallbill that portions of the report are likely less-than-truthful. As for the discipline, I think the article mentioned that one is being "processed for removal," and the other has "also...been punished."

My guess would be that they are being brought up on charges more for the negative image they've brought upon their military branch than for the action itself. As for those stating that the servicemen should be shot and/or thrown off a cliff: that is just disturbing.
 

Vonkhan

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Feb 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: brandonb
Has anybody actually heard the record of that marine who explained the situation?

It went something like this:

"The dog was traveling with insurgents who we killed. The dog was all alone in the middle of a hot desert. It would have just wandered around and died of starvation or thirst, or eaten by another animal. We can't take in animals if we want to, we can't bring them back to base. We usually just shoot them on the spot because we have no choice, but we had to save our ammo. So we did what we thought was most humane, we threw him off a cliff to give him a quick ending. Do you think we enjoy having to do that? Absolutely not."

Does that change anybody's tune? I'm sure most in the military agree with the marine, unfortunately everybody is up in arms over the poor puppy, they had to make him a fall guy because it leaked to the internet. Even though this stuff happens on a daily basis.

that's bs

a unit of marines and not a single ka-bar between them?
 

sdifox

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Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: brandonb
Has anybody actually heard the record of that marine who explained the situation?

It went something like this:

"The dog was traveling with insurgents who we killed. The dog was all alone in the middle of a hot desert. It would have just wandered around and died of starvation or thirst, or eaten by another animal. We can't take in animals if we want to, we can't bring them back to base. We usually just shoot them on the spot because we have no choice, but we had to save our ammo. So we did what we thought was most humane, we threw him off a cliff to give him a quick ending. Do you think we enjoy having to do that? Absolutely not."

Does that change anybody's tune? I'm sure most in the military agree with the marine, unfortunately everybody is up in arms over the poor puppy, they had to make him a fall guy because it leaked to the internet. Even though this stuff happens on a daily basis.

nope, doesn't change my tune at all. Shooting the dog would be unfortunate but proper thing to do. Throwing it off a cliff is not.
 

TehMac

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Aug 18, 2006
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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: brandonb
Has anybody actually heard the record of that marine who explained the situation?

It went something like this:

"The dog was traveling with insurgents who we killed. The dog was all alone in the middle of a hot desert. It would have just wandered around and died of starvation or thirst, or eaten by another animal. We can't take in animals if we want to, we can't bring them back to base. We usually just shoot them on the spot because we have no choice, but we had to save our ammo. So we did what we thought was most humane, we threw him off a cliff to give him a quick ending. Do you think we enjoy having to do that? Absolutely not."

Does that change anybody's tune? I'm sure most in the military agree with the marine, unfortunately everybody is up in arms over the poor puppy, they had to make him a fall guy because it leaked to the internet. Even though this stuff happens on a daily basis.

nope, doesn't change my tune at all. Shooting the dog would be unfortunate but proper thing to do. Throwing it off a cliff is not.

Yes, thank you for your self righteous and pure opinion, you are truly a model who has experienced the world and thus you can make to us, all sorts of brilliant and whole hearted pronouncements with the greatest ease without sounding like a tool.

Congratulations.
 

sdifox

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Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: TehMac

Yes, thank you for your self righteous and pure opinion, you are truly a model who has experienced the world and thus you can make to us, all sorts of brilliant and whole hearted pronouncements with the greatest ease without sounding like a tool.

Congratulations.

What are you 12? Are you having a hard time understanding they were in trouble not because they killed the dog but because they threw it off a cliff? I always wondered why PETA even exist, I guess it's because of idiots like you that causes PETA to exist.
 

Stiffe

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I don't understand how throwing a puppy off a cliff is the right thing to do.
How do we know if the puppy is truly alive or dead at the end?

One bullet and then its done.

And also when seeing the video it looked like it wasn't done through compassion.
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