2 Muslims run over british soldier then behead him IN LONDON.

[Orignal Earl]

That number will be a tiny drop in the bucket compared to the number of Afghans killed by other Afghans. It's a backward-ass nation of savages and we need to stop pretending that we can civilize them.

Well, they were well on their way to becoming "civilized" up until some groups started to oppose the commies


Afghanistan in the 60s

https://www.google.ca/search?q=afgh...5HuHKiwL5xYCgBg&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=767

lol at the civilized people turning this into a gun debate

 

[peonyu]

Religion of Peace strikes again...


IF any of the Muslim leaders do denounce this, its only temporary. They still have Friday prayers to spew their hatred in their hate-mosques, Friday is the most popular day for Muslims to riot and its no surprise why.

The UK would be wise to stop their policy of mass-muslim immigration but its not gonna happen, its the UK leadership who are in power that are keeping that ball of failure rolling in [and already English heads are starting to roll aswell!].

 

[Orignal Earl]

Religion of Peace strikes again...


IF any of the Muslim leaders do denounce this, its only temporary. They still have Friday prayers to spew their hatred in their hate-mosques, Friday is the most popular day for Muslims to riot and its no surprise why.

The UK would be wise to stop their policy of mass-muslim immigration but its not gonna happen, its the UK leadership who are in power that are keeping that ball of failure rolling in [and already English heads are starting to roll aswell!].

That guy had quite the British accent, are you sure he was not born there?

 

[brycejones]

News Flash: Individual person does something awful in the world, is a follower of the world's biggest religion. Let's generalize!
I'm sure there were no grisly murders in the US (or Somalia, or Afghanistan) by Christians the same day, that's for sure.

^^^^^ Danger, danger, we have a radical Muslim apologist here.

Everyone knows any "Christian" who commits a murder is really a secret Muslim plant.

 

[raildogg]

^^^^^ Danger, danger, we have a radical Muslim apologist here.

Everyone knows any "Christian" who commits a murder is really a secret Muslim plant.

The so-called Christians in the West have perfected the art of killing. They drop their murderous weapons from above so their hands don't get dirty. They sit at their desk thousands of miles away controlling a robot. These are your so-called Christian murderers.

And they are constantly thinking of new ways and devices of killing people. The rest of the world has nothing on the West when it comes to killing.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Apparently the EDL is attacking Mosques now

Mosques attacked in Kent and Essex - May 22 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&feature=iv&src_vid=lDtL0TKjw3w&v=_3pfY-7BosI

 

[raildogg]

So this is how we fight wrong: by being wrong ourselves.

 

[peonyu]

That guy had quite the British accent, are you sure he was not born there?

Still an import. He looks about as English as his victim looks Somalian...

 

[Orignal Earl]

Still an import.

So like you?

Incor's heros in deep cover attacking Mosques

 

[LightPattern]

Also, who is allowed in is important. Soul-dead folks from war-torn African or ME nations are not going to assimilate well, on average.

It's not the Quran (sorry guys, but you need to read your Bibles without your clergy's goggles on). It's that Europe's empires left shitholes, and as those shitholes started to come together, their successors tried to, "fix things," left and right, and screwed it up even more, mostly during the cold war (not that we aren't still cycling those personalities through our circles of power). The cultures left from all that seem to have, by and large, coalesced under Islam.

One thing the violent factions seem to have in common is acting like abused: the idea that abusing unrelated people now is actually a worthwhile revenge tactic against actions from the past (FI, if they wanted to assassinate someone near the top from that time, regardless of the ethics of it, that would at least be revenge against a related party).

I do not mean to defend the swaths of supportive and apathetic Muslims, but it is pretty clear that it is a culture and class problem (there's more to learning than just the 3 Rs: emotional habits are also learned), more than anything else, and no appeasing or kind supporting will take care of it (what will, aside from deportation and mandatory cultural assimilation, to weed out the self-ghettoing types? Hell if I know).

I support cultural diversity so long as those cultures ultimately accept a "live and let live" attitude toward those they disagree with.

I've only read small sections of the Qu'ran, but it seems diametrically opposed to that attitude at times.

 

[peonyu]

So like you?

Incor's heros in deep cover attacking Mosques

So ? I dont see millions of English people moving to the Middle east every year and pushing the native population away, and at the same time demanding 110% respect for their [christian] religion. Its happening in Europe though so no shit there is going to be some people who dont agree with it, ie- the EDL.

And actions like this [beheading a innocent person in HIS own land] are only going to embolden the indigenous people of Europe to support groups like the Golden Dawn party, or EDL etc.

 

[CitizenKain]

So this is how we fight wrong: by being wrong ourselves.

The EDL is mostly fascists and white supremacists, so its no surprise to see certain people in this thread supporting them.

 

[Orignal Earl]

And actions like this [beheading a innocent person in HIS own land] are only going to embolden the indigenous people of Europe to support groups like the Golden Dawn party, or EDL etc.

Muslims been in the UK since long before the US was a country.
As an American you would probably be looked down on by more people there
Yes Idiots will continue to be idiots

 

[Cerb]

I support cultural diversity so long as those cultures ultimately accept a "live and let live" attitude toward those they disagree with.

Not integrating in an important aspect, and some sociologist surely already has a better term for it. In many countries, the radical Muslims tend to form physical areas where they can act very much like where they came from. In such environments, it's easy for the charismatic egotists to draw impressionable people. usually young, in, and also for parents and neighbors to raise their children very differently from the rest of the nation. So the result is 2nd generation African villagers that can read and write English, mooch off the U.K., and have a British accent, instead of being British folks with interesting family histories.

They, or their parents, decided to become Britons, but only enough to get roofs over their heads, not to become part of that society, culture, and government.

Cases like Chinatowns, FI, are fundamentally different, in that they are inclusive of the nation's overriding culture(s) and values, while also allowing for a place where they don't have to be WASPs, can easily get along with older people unable to learn English, get food, tools, furniture, etc., they are used to, and so on.

What's going on with the radical Muslims in some of the European countries now appears very much like what we've had to deal with involving inner city black culture, encouraged by the welfare state, where there places sane people just didn't venture into, and hoped the people in there wouldn't venture out...except it seems to be set to get worse.

 

[Kadarin]

I find it amazing that someone who is not Muslim could be a Muslim apologist.

 

[peonyu]

Muslims been in the UK since long before the US was a country.
As an American you would probably be looked down on by more people there
Yes Idiots will continue to be idiots

You are talking a handful of Muslims, if that that lived in the UK before the 1800s. The oldest Muslim community is a Yemeni community that started in the 1860's in the UK, besides them [who probably numbered 10k at most] its common knowledge that 99% came to Western Europe after WW2. Even France's almost 10 million Muslims came after WW2...Even the BBC admits that much and its as pro-immigration as you can get.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/uk_1.shtml

"Immigration

Britain's Muslim population are almost all people who immigrated to Britain in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s, or their descendants.

During the first quarter of the 20th century it was estimated that there were around 10,000 Muslims in Britain. Now there are between 1 and 2 million British Muslims (2% - 4% of the population), and over half of them were born in Britain."

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Well at least they were shot for it.

After they beheaded an innocent person in front of a crowd of bystanders unable to do a damn thing about it.

Edit: I guess they should pass a law that makes murder and beheadings illegal in the UK. That'll keep them safe right? lololol. Oh and the cops took 20 minutes to arrive on the scene. Nice.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I find it amazing that someone who is not Muslim could be a Muslim apologist.

I find it amazing you think that way.
I've known a lot of Muslims, they have been my friends and have saved my life.
You may only feel comfortable around people who are exactly like you, but I really enjoy meeting people who are different then me

 

[CitizenKain]

What's going on with the radical Muslims in some of the European countries now appears very much like what we've had to deal with involving inner city black culture, encouraged by the welfare state, where there places sane people just didn't venture into, and hoped the people in there wouldn't venture out...except it seems to be set to get worse.

Or its a group of people who are massively shit by society who don't have a way to escape their situation, because upwards mobility from poverty is almost non-existent now.

 

[ichy]

Apparently the EDL is attacking Mosques now

Mosques attacked in Kent and Essex - May 22 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&feature=iv&src_vid=lDtL0TKjw3w&v=_3pfY-7BosI

While I don't condone their actions I do understand their frustration.

 

[ichy]

So America drops bombs on entire villages killing dozens of people yet they are the savages?

Yes, yes they are. The sort of imaginary incident that you described is a rarity and a horrible accident. In Afghanistan treating women like livestock, raping young boys and rampant violence against people who aren't from your tribal group is a way of life. Feel free to continue with your bullshit moral equivalency but I'll never apologize for saying that our culture and system of values, despite it's flaws, is infinitely superior to the barbarism that prevails in Afghanistan.

 

[ichy]

We are all related in one way or another. What happens in China impacts America. What happens in France impacts Papua New Guinea. Therefore, let's stop with the "We are better than them" attitudes.

Before we got entangled in Afghanistan what happened there did NOT impact us. We need to get out of that shithole now and let the natives go back to their backward ass, contemptible barbaric ways.

 

[ichy]

Well, they were well on their way to becoming "civilized" up until some groups started to oppose the commies


Afghanistan in the 60s

https://www.google.ca/search?q=afgh...5HuHKiwL5xYCgBg&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=767

Oh please, you're showing a few pictures of what are almost certainly just a couple of their biggest cities. Get outside those cities and you'd find people who were still living in the dark ages. Hell, most people in Afghanistan don't even think of themselves as Afghans. It's a tribal society that doesn't buy into the modern idea of the nation state, much less concepts like democracy (which they have zero tradition or history of), rights, gender equality, etc. We need to get the hell out now and keep them out of our countries.

 

[cannabis2468]

I dont care what your religion or the other persons is im not going to idly sit by and watch someone get their head sawed off in the street while i record video on my cell phone. Their is too much real shit to be pissed off about rather than fighting over whose make believe deity is better.

 

[Attic]

what is disturbing to me about that video is all the people just walking around not doing anything. call me an 'internet tought guy' all you want but im not just gonna stand by watch something like that transpire. i will find a loose brick, rock, or something somewhere and put that guy down.

I find this disturbing as well. I've come across the same thing in the states on multiple occasions. There is a psychological explanation for it based on a persons idea of safety in group behavior. If no one else is helping it must be safe to follow that precedent. It is more severe/likely response in larger groups.

If you would help, know that most people would not. I have much harsher critiscm for folks who don't help than what psychology attempts to explain.