It took cops 20 minutes to respond to this murder while 20-30 lemmings stood by unable to do a damn thing about it other than gawk. If these guys really wanted to they could've gone a complete rampage (one of them actually had a gun as well) within those 20 minutes and killed a lot more people but they wanted to make a political statement instead.
Next time it might not go down in the same manner.
So in the end this morons in the UK traded their right to self-defense for a false sense of security being offered by an overbearing and Orwellian government who really could give a fuck about their own people. No doubt Brits will be demanding that cops shot on sight or that they be given more money and power to act without having to be constrained by laws which protect the individual from government encroachment on individual rights because again these are lemmings are willing to give up their own rights for a false sense of security.
Could, would, should. None of that happened. Police armed with pepper spray and batons were on the scene by the way.
FACT is one person died and that this knife wielding felon was taken down by the police.
In the US an entire city is locked down with armored vehicles roaming the city and mass shootouts.
You tell me which is less free for the populace.
Lol pepper spray. This coming from a certified instructor.
Officer deaths in the US in 2012: 120
Officer deaths in the UK in 2012: 3 (and none in 2011 and 2010)
So a country with a 2.5 times population of Texas didn't have a single police death in 2011 or 2010.
Yep, an armed society sure is a safe society
And how many stories of legally armed citizens causing havoc have you heard?
Zero.
And how many stories of legally armed citizens causing havoc have you heard?
Zero.
What a load of old crap.
So what do you want exactly? For all the bystanders to be armed and no one knows who is the felon and who isn't? So what, you have 30 armed and untrained idiots running around shooting at anything brown and suspicious?
Sounds like some NRA's wet dream.
How many killing sprees have happened in the US in recent years compared to the UK? And how many of those sprees have not been ended by either a suicide or death by cop?
The facts don't back up your argument.
Kennesaw, Gerogia. City of 35,000. Legal mandate that every able household must keep a gun and ammunition for it on the premise, established 1982.
Violent crime ~85% less than national average, property crime ~50% less.
http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/georgia/kennesaw.html
Fuck your stupid oversimplified theory, courtesy of reality.
UK is 243,610 sq km and 63m people
US is 9,826,675 sq km and 316m people
try hard comparison much?
Country compared to country, dumbass. Not some cherry picked county
Which country are you more likely to get murdered in? Simple question.
Country compared to country, dumbass. Not some cherry picked county
Which country are you more likely to get murdered in? Simple question.
Just a few decades ago there were weekly lynchings of black people in the United States and dire warnings from the not-so-fringes about 'the coming race war.' There's still plenty of serious racism in America, but we've come a long way.
Even more recently, lots and lots of people - including experts in foreign relations and other fields -considered nuclear war a high likelihood or even near certainty in their lifetimes.
You can't extrapolate into the future, ever, much less about some coming horrific holy war against radical Islam. Isolated incidents don't equal trends, and trends aren't destiny. This is an awful thing, and was dealt with by the police. There's no particular reason to be inflating it to more than that.
You could move to Australia.
Sure, move to a country with more than double our rape rate (at least in 2002, from this data).
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_vic-crime-rape-victims
Do they have a higher rate of rate or a higher willingness to report rape?
They probably have a higher rate and are less willing to report because of said high rates. Its most likely even worse than it seems.
Imagine Africa, where children are commonly captured in rebel armies.... you don't think there rape rate is 40x higher than what it really is?
If I was comparing US rape rates to any number of sub-saharan African nations, would you ask the same question?
... To answer your question, most US crime is highly localized. Given that my body isn't spread over the whole fucking continent, I think my odds of not being murdered are negligibly more than they would be in the UK; unless I just decide to waltz through Harlem at midnight. The costs of lowering those already minute odds by an even more minute percentage simply aren't worth it.
You don't think crime in the UK is localised as well?
Our country is a lot more urbanised than yours, our population density is higher and a greater proportion of the population live in cities. Plus we have a very big drinking and brawling tradition. A lot of violence in the UK is drunken punch ups in city centers which are easily avoided.