2 Police Officers Shot During Ferguson Protest

[chucky2]

If it was .40 (or 10mm, much more doubtful) at 100 yds that round still has a lot of energy - it's not like .45. So I could absolutely see someone shooting at someone with a .40, missing, and it traveling a good distance and seriously wounding/killing someone.

 

[rudeguy]

If it was .40 (or 10mm, much more doubtful) at 100 yds that round still has a lot of energy - it's not like .45. So I could absolutely see someone shooting at someone with a .40, missing, and it traveling a good distance and seriously wounding/killing someone.

But scoring 2 "kill" shots out of 3 shots fired?

I just can't buy that.

 

[mizzou]

If it was .40 (or 10mm, much more doubtful) at 100 yds that round still has a lot of energy - it's not like .45. So I could absolutely see someone shooting at someone with a .40, missing, and it traveling a good distance and seriously wounding/killing someone.

.40 is 10mm

S&W.40 is a shorter version of the 10mm standard bullet.


not sure if you are confused about dimensions or if you are accurately stating if it was a 10mm bullet. Very few guns shoot that round.

 

[Jhhnn]

But scoring 2 "kill" shots out of 3 shots fired?

I just can't buy that.

Careful- you're working your way closer to truthiness.

Fer Chrissakes- the perp was duped into confessing to an informant who recorded the whole thing with a hidden camera. You can't wish that away.

 

[rudeguy]

Careful- you're working your way closer to truthiness.

Fer Chrissakes- the perp was duped into confessing to an informant who recorded the whole thing with a hidden camera. You can't wish that away.

Again...I don't disagree with you.

 

[TechBoyJK]

http://www.kmov.com/story/28632070/cell-phone-video-captures-assault-on-metrolink

 

[TechBoyJK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7k7xtpQrrM

 

[rudeguy]

http://www.kmov.com/story/28632070/cell-phone-video-captures-assault-on-metrolink

it makes you look even more ignorant when you spam links like that.

 

[TechBoyJK]

it makes you look even more ignorant when you spam links like that.

reported for having a really shitty attitude.

 

[soundforbjt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7k7xtpQrrM

This is fun...http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-b...ion--told--go-back-to-ferguson-210248297.html

 

[TechBoyJK]

This is fun...http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-b...ion--told--go-back-to-ferguson-210248297.html

StLouis sucks when it comes to race. I'm wanting to move out of here more and more everyday.

 

[schmuckley]

I really, really doubt this was a handgun shot at 125 yards. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong but I'm not. That's some hollywood shit. Especially hitting 2 targets at that range. Stuff like that just makes me believe the press even less.

http://www.tombstonetactical.com/ca...-inch-barrel-blue-finish-black-grip-10-round/

maybe notsomuch..

Handgun? 125 yds? Bullshit.

I hope they don't succeed in railroading that guy.
Yeah..cuz this is how he'd be shooting:
1:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Hsf-0B-Eo

 

[el padrino]

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/ferguson-police-chief-on-whats-changed-since-shooting/

 

[chucky2]

But scoring 2 "kill" shots out of 3 shots fired?

I just can't buy that.

Yeah very unlikely, just saying, you pop 2-3 rounds off and they're on their way, they're not going to stop until they hit something or run out of speed, and .40 has a lot of speed.

.40 is 10mm

S&W.40 is a shorter version of the 10mm standard bullet.


not sure if you are confused about dimensions or if you are accurately stating if it was a 10mm bullet. Very few guns shoot that round.

I know, I own a Gen4 G20, with a KKM .40 conversion barrel.

 

[rudeguy]

Yeah very unlikely, just saying, you pop 2-3 rounds off and they're on their way, they're not going to stop until they hit something or run out of speed, and .40 has a lot of speed.



I know, I own a Gen4 G20, with a KKM .40 conversion barrel.

Ignore mizzou, he types with his anus.


I'm hoping someone can tell me where I'm wrong here. The average shooter would be able to keep a 6" group at say 7 yards. Factor in the cops were 125 yards out and downhill and every one of those inches becomes feet. In order for him to get 2 kill shots in at that range, he would have to be keyholing his shots.

I have drawn a handy dandy MS Paint drawing of my forensic analysis. Where am I off?

 

[Fern]

As to the shooter's intent-

http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-shoo...camera--search-warrant-reveals-211839664.html

I see nothing of his intent. Did they update the article to remove whatever you're referring to? What did it originally say?

Fern

 

[Jhhnn]

I see nothing of his intent. Did they update the article to remove whatever you're referring to? What did it originally say?

Fern

Please-

“The suspect then told the [confidential source] that he discharged a handgun at unknown individual(s) from an area which was consistent with the location of the fired cartridge casings,” the affidavit alleges.

The unknown individuals obviously not being the cops or they'd be playing it entirely differently.

 

[Jhhnn]

Ignore mizzou, he types with his anus.


I'm hoping someone can tell me where I'm wrong here. The average shooter would be able to keep a 6" group at say 7 yards. Factor in the cops were 125 yards out and downhill and every one of those inches becomes feet. In order for him to get 2 kill shots in at that range, he would have to be keyholing his shots.

I have drawn a handy dandy MS Paint drawing of my forensic analysis. Where am I off?

The two officers could have been standing 10 feet apart for all we know.

To believe anything other than the official story we'd have to believe that a guy too dumb to keep his mouth shut in casual conversation is too smart to admit to shooting at cops when he doesn't even know he's being recorded.

 

[Fern]

Please-



The unknown individuals obviously not being the cops or they'd be playing it entirely differently.

I got the the impression that by use of the term "intent" you were saying it was his intent to shoot the cops. So you're actually saying he lacked intent to shoot the cops; the fact they were hit was accidental?

If so I've agreed from the start.

Fern

 

[Jhhnn]

I got the the impression that by use of the term "intent" you were saying it was his intent to shoot the cops. So you're actually saying he lacked intent to shoot the cops; the fact they were hit was accidental?

If so I've agreed from the start.

Fern

I used "intent" in the broader sense. He intended to shoot somebody-not-the-cops. Hitting the cops was like hitting a little kid in a drive-by or Dick Cheney gunning down his quail hunting partner. It's an inevitability of careless tunnel vision assholes with guns.

 

[chucky2]

Ignore mizzou, he types with his anus.


I'm hoping someone can tell me where I'm wrong here. The average shooter would be able to keep a 6" group at say 7 yards. Factor in the cops were 125 yards out and downhill and every one of those inches becomes feet. In order for him to get 2 kill shots in at that range, he would have to be keyholing his shots.

I have drawn a handy dandy MS Paint drawing of my forensic analysis. Where am I off?

Yep, I get exactly what you're saying. I was just pointing out .40/10mm has more than enough at 150 yds to kill someone, it is not a slow round like .45. And that's really all I was pointing out. I'm not up on the particulars of the case so won't comment on it.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Ignore mizzou, he types with his anus.


I'm hoping someone can tell me where I'm wrong here. The average shooter would be able to keep a 6" group at say 7 yards. Factor in the cops were 125 yards out and downhill and every one of those inches becomes feet. In order for him to get 2 kill shots in at that range, he would have to be keyholing his shots.

I have drawn a handy dandy MS Paint drawing of my forensic analysis. Where am I off?

Your trajectories are straight.

 

[rudeguy]

Your trajectories are straight.

I know. It would be even more ridiculous if I included the arc.

 

[dank69]

Ignore mizzou, he types with his anus.


I'm hoping someone can tell me where I'm wrong here. The average shooter would be able to keep a 6" group at say 7 yards. Factor in the cops were 125 yards out and downhill and every one of those inches becomes feet. In order for him to get 2 kill shots in at that range, he would have to be keyholing his shots.

I have drawn a handy dandy MS Paint drawing of my forensic analysis. Where am I off?

I don't know the particulars of the case, but how many cops were assembled? Could the suspect fire into a group of 20+ cops and hit two of them?

 

[cabri]

I don't know the particulars of the case, but how many cops were assembled? Could the suspect fire into a group of 20+ cops and hit two of them?

Answer is yes.

Question is who is he claiming he was actually firing at;
Then what was their location in reference to the shooter and the line of fire.

I have not heard any info on the intended target and location of such.

And seeing how his story has changed so much and has been different than what the lawyer has stated at times; who knows what the truth is? I do not believe the lawyer for a minute.