2 women who were mistaken for Dorner will not be getting a truck from the LAPD

Theb

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The two newspaper delivery women who were shot at during the manhunt for Christopher Dorner will not be getting a new replacement truck as promised by the LAPD, according to their attorney Glen Jonas.

It has been more than a month since LAPD Chief Charlie Beck promised the truck to Emma Hernandez, 71, and her daughter, Margie Carranza, who had been working in Torrance, Calif. before dawn on Feb. 7.

Police said it was a "case of mistaken identity" that prompted officers to open fire on the women. Beck later apologized and promised to replace their truck, now riddled with bullet holes.

According to Jonas, LAPD and Galpin Ford wanted his clients to pose for a photo opportunity and pay income tax on the truck. The women no longer want the truck after they were told they needed to fill out a 1099 form for the donation, Jonas said Monday.

"You tried to murder the woman, now you're telling her she can't have a four-wheel drive, you're telling her she can't sell it and you've got to be taxed on it?" Jonas said. "How would anyone react to that?"

Jonas plans on filing a government claim, which is a precursor to any lawsuit filed against a government agency. He said he felt the truck was being touted as a "reward or prize" instead of a sincere gesture by the LAPD.

Galpin Ford estimates the value of the truck – a 2013 Ford 150 SuperCrew – at $32,560. The dealership had planned on paying the sales tax, vehicle registration and title on the truck, according to a dealership spokesperson.

"It's really sad for us because we want to help these women move on with their lives, and help them move forward with that, we just can't get past the 1099 issue," LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith said. "The government has to take their bite out of it, I guess."

The women's Toyota Tacoma was pierced with 102 bullet holes from the Feb. 7 shooting, according to Jonas. Emma Hernandez is still recovering from two bullet wounds to her neck, which are giving her life-threatening complications, according to Jonas, who described what his clients went through that morning.

"The grandmother, Emma, starts saying, ‘God have mercy on us,’ because she thinks for sure they're going to die," Jonas said. "She then clutches around the back seat of her daughter to protect her from the gun shots because her daughter has children."

The pair was driving a dark-colored pickup truck with its lights off when they slowly approached the home of an officer named in ex-officer Christopher Dorner’s angry manifesto. Apparently thinking Dorner was inside, police opened fire on the truck.

After the shooting, Jonas said he was shocked by the officers’ actions. He said neither the size of the women nor the blue Toyota Tundra truck they were in matched the description of Dorner's Nissan Titan.

Eight officers were involved in the shooting. They were assigned to non-field assignments "until the (police) chief decides otherwise."
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...pher-Dorner-Manhunt-Truck-LAPD-197241021.html

It doesn't seem like they should be taxed on it, both morally and technically. Whether you look at it as restitution or a gift she shouldn't be paying any taxes on it. My guess is the LAPD isn't as eager to give them a truck now that this is out of the news.

And I can totally understand the women not wanting to do a photo op.
 
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waggy

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yeah i read that.

but Galpin Ford estimates the value of the truck – a 2013 Ford 150 SuperCrew – at $32,560. The dealership had planned on paying the sales tax, vehicle registration and title on the truck, according to a dealership spokesperson.


so they wouldn't pay any of that anyway.
 

boomhower

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Why take a $30k truck when you can sure and get much much more than that very easily.
 

Lonyo

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The LAPD will wish they had covered the taxes. They will probably have to pay a lot more if they actually get sued.
 

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My feeling is that the women who were shot at may be in this country illegally. They did not want to file a 1099 IRS form because they may have not had legal standing in the US. For that reason, they may not have any standing on lawsuits either.

The key word here is "may" because I am just speculating and it's not factual.
 

SheHateMe

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The LAPD attempted to murder these two women and quite possibly will end up leading to the death or life long handicap of one of the women (the one shot twice in the neck) and they are trying to pull some bullshit with the replacement truck?

Their original truck didn't even match the description of Dorner's video. They didn't verify the target and they open fired on two citizens. The cops who attempted this murder didn't even get in trouble for it.


Fuck that,

Sue the pants off the LAPD.
 
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BoomerD

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102 bullet holes?!

Holy fuck!

So much for that budget surplus that Cali had going for it this year.

Even worse than the number of bullet holes...the occupants of the vehicle SURVIVED!

There's no fucking excuse for putting that many rounds into a vehicle...and not killing every occupant in it.
 

SunnyD

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Even worse than the number of bullet holes...the occupants of the vehicle SURVIVED!

There's no fucking excuse for putting that many rounds into a vehicle...and not killing every occupant in it.

Well, I guess we know where California tightened it's belt in prior years to get some of that budget surplus now, don't we?
 

BoomerD

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Well, I guess we know where California tightened it's belt in prior years to get some of that budget surplus now, don't we?

No shit...LA should scrape up a few pennies and send their cops back to the academy for target practice.
 

WaTaGuMp

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They talked about this on the news yesterday. They are trying to get them the truck and not have them be on the hook for the taxes. I didn't pay much attention to it to hear what they are doing about that though.
 
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They talked about this on the news yesterday. They are trying to get them the truck and not have them be on the hook for the taxes. I didn't pay much attention to it to hear what they are doing about that though.
See my above post. All they have to do is "sue" the department, offer a settlement, accept the settlement, and then write her a check for the amount of the "judgement" which is incidentally the cost of a truck.

Abusing the legal system is a game everybody can play.
 

Craig234

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I am normally very much against this attitude, but in this case I think they deserve every penny.

Translation: I usually fall for the anti-lawsuit propaganda, but when I get enough info to have an informed opinion, I agree wit the case.

Not meant to insult, there's a big industry of that propaganda designed to get people to fall for a myth to help other people make a buck by not being liable.
 

Craig234

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How can you shoot at someone 102 time and not hit them ?

How can you read 102 words and not see it say they were hit:

"Emma Hernandez is still recovering from two bullet wounds to her neck"

It does seem surprising to miss that much, but on the other hand it doesn't sound like they were exactly close for a good shot, given they mistook a 72 year old woman for him.
 

Pantoot

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Not meant to insult, there's a big industry of that propaganda designed to get people to fall for a myth to help other people make a buck by not being liable.

No insult taken, but I am wise enough to know that the LAPD isn't going to pay for this regardless of how much they lose. It is the people of LA that will pay.

I certainly don't fall for the myth of "gotta get mine" either.
 

olds

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102 bullet holes?!

Holy fuck!

So much for that budget surplus that Cali had going for it this year.
Ya, cops can't shoot for shit. But hell, take guns away from civilians but let cops carry them.
 
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