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[sourceninja]

Actually spitting in my food is against the law. So it's not anyone's right. Not tipping however is legal. I have a personal scale for tipping. Acceptable service is 0%, good service is 10%, exceptional service is 15%. That is all I feel that job is worth. Delivery service I tip more because I typically order from the same places and they remember me, and thus get the pizza to me faster. So I am paying for better service. When I tip at fridays, I get the same service no matter 5% or 25%. IT is not worth it for me to tip. I get no benefit from it at all. I will tip higher in large parties because we push the waiter beyond a expected norm. I then usually tip in the 25% for acceptable, 20% for good, and 25% for exceptional. However, if the tip is mandatory for large parties and added to the check, I WILL NOT ever add extra to the tip.

The only reason to tip is out of the kindness of my heart. I am not a nice or kind person. I want my moneys worth. If it's so important, then wait staff should push for mandatory tips or raise the price of the food and go tip free. I am fine with either. If you want my money, show me value for it. I personally feel that bringing me a plate of food and maybe refilling my drink is not worth 3 or 4 bucks for a 30 - 45 minute meal.

 

[mxyzptlk]

i tip 2-5 bucks regardless of the bill. Service is service and waitstaff at expensive restaurants aren't more deserving of larger tips than the staff at cheaper places.

I've also done the > 1$ tip for truly atrocious service.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: Beev
I skimmed the thread and read bits here and there, but am I to understand that he is a piece of shit SOLELY because he doesn't tip? (Does he ever say he never tips?). I don't know if historically tipping was not about performance or not, but that's the understanding of nearly everyone now. You give shitty service, don't expect a tip.

No no no. What the basic understanding of the thread is, the OP is fine with the way he tipped because he was given bad service.

The problem I had in this thread was shitheads like looker001 who NEVER tip simply because they think if the waiter isn't making enough money at their job, they should find a new one. There is no real reason why he doesn't tip (I think its because hes obviously foreign and has a disdain for it), he just simply doesn't do it.

And what's wrong with that??? It's his right to tip or not.

And its also the waiters right to spit in his food. Your point being? Still doesn't make it right or make him any less of a shithead.

Comparing something illegal to something legal doesn't make sense. It seems like you're bitter.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: sourceninja
If you want my money, show me value for it. I personally feel that bringing me a plate of food and maybe refilling my drink is not worth 3 or 4 bucks for a 30 - 45 minute meal.

Exactly my point. They think that since they are in customer service and ahve to deal with stupid or good people that they deserve a tip. Millions of other people do just as hard, if not harder work and put up with even worse customers but do not get a tip. What makes them special?

 

[cheezy321]

I am not bitter at all. I've actually never waited tables in my life.

I just find it so stupid how these people go into these restaurants knowing that a 15% tip is customary, then not tip at all. No one can say they don't know that they are socially obligated to tip in America. They like to make their own rules and live by their own standards, at the cost of their waiter. Its' such a cop out to say "They should find a different job." How about you don't go out to eat where you know that you have to tip at the end of the meal? Go to fucking Mcdonalds if you don't want to tip. It is insanely selfish to think like that.

I wish the people who don't tip at all would just say from the beginning "Hey, im not going to tip you at the end of the meal". Then it will be fair to both parties. Then they would get the service that a person that doesn't tip deserves. Then it would be a fair system.

Now keep in mind that none of this applies if the meal or service is crappy. Then you can tip as you see fit. But if the waiter does a satisfactory job, a 15% tip should be required.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: Jadow
wow my little post really blossomed into a full grown thread.

Note, after leaving the sushi place, we went out for burgers, and tipped $5.00 on a $15 dollar check. It's all about the service.

Your 20 cent tip was at least justified. What sucks is that there are freeloaders and douchebags (looker001) who don't ever tip, and these are the people that make it harder for the server to know whether they gave poor service or their customer is just a self-absorbed asshole (Still talking to you looker001).

Yes, i am an asshole. So deal with it.

No, being an asshole would understate it. You are a piece of shit. You are the type of human being that deserves to be put in his place. I hope someone in your real life will someday set you straight, but I doubt it.

I am sure everyone you surround yourself truly knows how big of a piece of shit you are.

EDIT: You are also probably the douchebag at the group meal that never leaves enough money. I absolutely hate that person when we are eating out in a group and at the end of the meal we find out that we are short a some money. All because of shitheads like looker001 who thinks that social norms dont apply to him.

Actually he's a pretty obvious troll. He seems to come into most hot button threads, post a dissenting opinion, and never waiver from it, all the while proclaiming "I am an asshole, deal with it".

Best to just walk on by...

KT

 

[oiprocs]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
I would of done the same.

*facepalm*

 

[oiprocs]

Originally posted by: cheezy321
I am not bitter at all. I've actually never waited tables in my life.

I just find it so stupid how these people go into these restaurants knowing that a 15% tip is customary, then not tip at all. No one can say they don't know that they are socially obligated to tip in America. They like to make their own rules and live by their own standards, at the cost of their waiter. Its' such a cop out to say "They should find a different job." How about you don't go out to eat where you know that you have to tip at the end of the meal? Go to fucking Mcdonalds if you don't want to tip. It is insanely selfish to think like that.

I wish the people who don't tip at all would just say from the beginning "Hey, im not going to tip you at the end of the meal". Then it will be fair to both parties. Then they would get the service that a person that doesn't tip deserves. Then it would be a fair system.

Now keep in mind that none of this applies if the meal or service is crappy. Then you can tip as you see fit. But if the waiter does a satisfactory job, a 15% tip should be required.

Maybe restaurants should have "tip/no tip" sections, kind of like the "smoking/non smoking".

If you prefer not to tip, you'll have to refill your own drink, grab your own plate when it's ready, and leave your dishes in a marked container.

I would applaud this move.

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: obscenethistle

Originally posted by: cheezy321
I am not bitter at all. I've actually never waited tables in my life.

I just find it so stupid how these people go into these restaurants knowing that a 15% tip is customary, then not tip at all. No one can say they don't know that they are socially obligated to tip in America. They like to make their own rules and live by their own standards, at the cost of their waiter. Its' such a cop out to say "They should find a different job." How about you don't go out to eat where you know that you have to tip at the end of the meal? Go to fucking Mcdonalds if you don't want to tip. It is insanely selfish to think like that.

I wish the people who don't tip at all would just say from the beginning "Hey, im not going to tip you at the end of the meal". Then it will be fair to both parties. Then they would get the service that a person that doesn't tip deserves. Then it would be a fair system.

Now keep in mind that none of this applies if the meal or service is crappy. Then you can tip as you see fit. But if the waiter does a satisfactory job, a 15% tip should be required.

Maybe restaurants should have "tip/no tip" sections, kind of like the "smoking/non smoking".

If you prefer not to tip, you'll have to refill your own drink, grab your own plate when it's ready, and leave your dishes in a marked container.

I would applaud this move.

This would solve all the problems. Dont want to leave a tip? Why dont you go sit right over there........

 

[oiprocs]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: obscenethistle

Originally posted by: cheezy321
I am not bitter at all. I've actually never waited tables in my life.

I just find it so stupid how these people go into these restaurants knowing that a 15% tip is customary, then not tip at all. No one can say they don't know that they are socially obligated to tip in America. They like to make their own rules and live by their own standards, at the cost of their waiter. Its' such a cop out to say "They should find a different job." How about you don't go out to eat where you know that you have to tip at the end of the meal? Go to fucking Mcdonalds if you don't want to tip. It is insanely selfish to think like that.

I wish the people who don't tip at all would just say from the beginning "Hey, im not going to tip you at the end of the meal". Then it will be fair to both parties. Then they would get the service that a person that doesn't tip deserves. Then it would be a fair system.

Now keep in mind that none of this applies if the meal or service is crappy. Then you can tip as you see fit. But if the waiter does a satisfactory job, a 15% tip should be required.

Maybe restaurants should have "tip/no tip" sections, kind of like the "smoking/non smoking".

If you prefer not to tip, you'll have to refill your own drink, grab your own plate when it's ready, and leave your dishes in a marked container.

I would applaud this move.

This would solve all the problems. Dont want to leave a tip? Why dont you go sit right over there........

LOL, it could be a real nasty section, trash on the floor, stains on the seats, distasteful decorum etc. You could even have sh!ttier chefs!

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

I will make it very simple for you, I pay for the food that i requested and anything above that should not expected. If you are not happy with that, you can look for new job.

I hope you don't eat out at the same places enough to be noticed. If I was your waiter and knew you were like this, I would make sure you got the least attention. Knowing 99% of the other customers would tip me and you wouldn't. Would lead to you getting the worst service I could provide. Thankfully I'm not a waiter and don't have to deal with idiots like you.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ja1484
Tip = performance based pay. I've tipped as high as 100% (only done it twice in my life, and they earned it), and as low as 0%. All depends on the performance.

Actually tip was never supposed to be based on performance. A 15% tip is customary for service rendered.

i hope you're kidding

That is not a joke. Basic tipping was never supposed to be about performance...good tips are warranted for above and beyond, but should not be expected.

What has happened is people have become cheap and make up shit to the point everyone believes it.

Also people go to the typical friday night cattle herd type places and expect Four Seasons type service.

ATOT has proven though that many of our members should be staying at home with their parents or half dozen roommates as they don't make enough to be eating out and expect to justify why they shouldn't have to tip. It's sad really...

I will make it very simple for you, I pay for the food that i requested and anything above that should not expected. If you are not happy with that, you can look for new job.

I hope you don't eat out at the same places enough to be noticed. If I was your waiter and knew you were like this, I would make sure you got the least attention. Knowing 99% of the other customers would tip me and you wouldn't. Would lead to you getting the worst service I could provide. Thankfully I'm not a waiter and don't have to deal with idiots like you.

I am sure you would happe when mananger gave you a warning because as result of your bad service, he/she had to make my food free.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: looker001
I am sure you would happe when mananger gave you a warning because as result of your bad service, he/she had to make my food free.

I seriously doubt you are eating at the kind of place where a manger would tend to comp you a meal just because they were slow serving you.

 

[Cruisin1]

$13.80 for sushi for 2?! WTF.... there's gotta be something wrong with the food...

 

[zerocool84]

So it seems like you guys are saying that the only reason they bring you food and bring your drinks is because of the tips??? They are in the Customer Service Industry. Their job is to serve me whether they get tips or not.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: vshah
i don't leave tips for shitty service, if it could be helped. if the place is packed then i could understand waiting a bit.

I think an embarrassingly small tip is better than no tip at all.

I agree with the OP

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
So it seems like you guys are saying that the only reason they bring you food and bring your drinks is because of the tips??? They are in the Customer Service Industry. Their job is to serve me whether they get tips or not.

When you go out to eat with friends, do you make your friends cover your share of the tip?

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: zerocool84
So it seems like you guys are saying that the only reason they bring you food and bring your drinks is because of the tips??? They are in the Customer Service Industry. Their job is to serve me whether they get tips or not.

When you go out to eat with friends, do you make your friends cover your share of the tip?

It seems like you've asked this already a couple of times. Can't come up with anything new?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: zerocool84
So it seems like you guys are saying that the only reason they bring you food and bring your drinks is because of the tips??? They are in the Customer Service Industry. Their job is to serve me whether they get tips or not.

When you go out to eat with friends, do you make your friends cover your share of the tip?

It seems like you've asked this already a couple of times. Can't come up with anything new?

Think it's funny how you don't answer the question.

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Same

Actually I'd leave 0.

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: vshah
i don't leave tips for shitty service, if it could be helped. if the place is packed then i could understand waiting a bit.

In the OP's case I would always leave a tip even if it's only $.20
I don't want them thinking I forgot.

good point.

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: obscenethistle

Originally posted by: cheezy321
I am not bitter at all. I've actually never waited tables in my life.

I just find it so stupid how these people go into these restaurants knowing that a 15% tip is customary, then not tip at all. No one can say they don't know that they are socially obligated to tip in America. They like to make their own rules and live by their own standards, at the cost of their waiter. Its' such a cop out to say "They should find a different job." How about you don't go out to eat where you know that you have to tip at the end of the meal? Go to fucking Mcdonalds if you don't want to tip. It is insanely selfish to think like that.

I wish the people who don't tip at all would just say from the beginning "Hey, im not going to tip you at the end of the meal". Then it will be fair to both parties. Then they would get the service that a person that doesn't tip deserves. Then it would be a fair system.

Now keep in mind that none of this applies if the meal or service is crappy. Then you can tip as you see fit. But if the waiter does a satisfactory job, a 15% tip should be required.

Maybe restaurants should have "tip/no tip" sections, kind of like the "smoking/non smoking".

If you prefer not to tip, you'll have to refill your own drink, grab your own plate when it's ready, and leave your dishes in a marked container.

I would applaud this move.

dude, I would love that! I hate waiting on waiters.

 

[oiprocs]

Originally posted by: Cruisin1
$13.80 for sushi for 2?! WTF.... there's gotta be something wrong with the food...

They ate 2 rolls.

PLEASE READ ALL THE POSTS!!!!

:|

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: zerocool84
So it seems like you guys are saying that the only reason they bring you food and bring your drinks is because of the tips??? They are in the Customer Service Industry. Their job is to serve me whether they get tips or not.

When you go out to eat with friends, do you make your friends cover your share of the tip?

It seems like you've asked this already a couple of times. Can't come up with anything new?

Think it's funny how you don't answer the question.

It's called splitting the bill. It seems like you want tipping to be mandatory. If they wanted it that way it would be but it's not so I don't have to do it.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: zerocool84
So it seems like you guys are saying that the only reason they bring you food and bring your drinks is because of the tips??? They are in the Customer Service Industry. Their job is to serve me whether they get tips or not.

When you go out to eat with friends, do you make your friends cover your share of the tip?

It seems like you've asked this already a couple of times. Can't come up with anything new?

Think it's funny how you don't answer the question.

It's called splitting the bill. It seems like you want tipping to be mandatory. If they wanted it that way it would be but it's not so I don't have to do it.

:laugh: