2001FP OR 2005FPW POLL

[RLiu818]

I posted the original poll in the wrong forum.


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1682&enterthread=y

Help me decide! Thanks

 

[vshah]

put the poll here too!

2005 anyday

 

[Insane3D]

Neither....NEC 22" CRT.

 

[vshah]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Neither....NEC 22" CRT.

is that what you went with in the end?

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: vshah

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Neither....NEC 22" CRT.

is that what you went with in the end?

Yeah..

1600 x 1200 @ 100hz, and 2048 x 1536 @ 85hz was too much to resist.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Got the 2001FP in yesterday and LOVE it, no ghosting and runs sweet at 1600x1200 with crisp and clear image quality. I chose it over the 2005FPW because it is not wide screen so i dont have to hack the ini files of my old games to get them to display right and the 2001 has more surface area than the 2005FPW. Much easier to carry around to LANs than a CRT

 

[RLiu818]

bump

 

[imported_driver]

Go with the 2005FPW if:

- You will play games.
- You will watch DVD's.
- You will be doing photo editing.
- You will be doing movie editing.
- You don't want your display to be obsolete in 2 years

Go with the 2001FP if:

- 1680x1050 is not enough real estate for you.
- You absolutely must have the largest physical display area (in square inches).

If you can't tell already, I went with the 2005FPW.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Yeah, I believe widescreen is the future, but they are making you pay for it right now, physical desktop workspace is very valuable in whatever you are doing and right now they are charging you more for less with the 2005. Get the 2001, 4:3 is still the rule of thumb these days, 16:10 widescreen is most likely the future, but today it is a luxury (and also a setback) you don't need.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: driver
Go with the 2005FPW if:

- You will play games.
- You will watch DVD's.
- You will be doing photo editing.
- You will be doing movie editing.
- You don't want your display to be obsolete in 2 years

Go with the 2001FP if:

- 1680x1050 is not enough real estate for you.
- You absolutely must have the largest physical display area (in square inches).

If you can't tell already, I went with the 2005FPW.

I don't agree with your 2005FPW points but each his own.

 

[imported_driver]

Originally posted by: Naustica
I don't agree with your 2005FPW points but each his own.

Well, let me elaborate on my comment.

1. Most new games either support widescreen natively or through a few changes in a config file. By support, I mean that the game does not crop the display on the top and bottom to fit to the display. Rather, the game actually renders more on the left and right, so you get a wider field of view and a more immersive experience. In some cases, such as Counter Strike, you get a competitve advantage. On a 4:3 display, you would either have to play with a limited FOV or with a letterboxed display, resulting in less of your display actually used. Or you could hack the game to show a similar FOV, but then everything is made smaller to fit the extra environment, so it's more difficult to see things.

2. This is a no brainer. DVD's are widescreen, so you should watch them on a widescreen display. If you measure it out with a ruler, the actual area used by the 2005FPW for the movie is larger than the area used by the 2001FP.

3. Here are a couple of screen shots to show why I think widescreen is better for photo editing:

http://www.pbase.com/donald_wo...age/37128972/large.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/donald_wo...age/37128973/large.jpg

The photo fits on the screen so much better. No more unused space above and below the photo. Once again, if you measure with a ruler, the area used by the photo is larger than that onthe 2001FP, assuming no part of the photo is blocked.

4. I don't do any video editing myself, but I have to believe that the same argument from #3 applies as well.

5. Everything is moving to widescreen. Games are moving. Windows (Longhorn) is moving. Your next TV, if not your current TV, will be widescreen. It's a natural evolution. 4:3 monitors will be obsolete just like 4:3 TV's are obsolete now.

Would you like to comment on why you disagree with me?

 

[imported_kaneda]

I went with two 2001FP. Was really debating between this and the 2005FPW but in the end I decided to go with the 2001FP. As, much as I love widescreen - the 20" screen was too small - if it was a 27" or 30" then maybe but not at their current prices.

But by the time I replace these two monitors - newer and larger lcd's will be in the market and cheaper too .

As for gaming - I can just hook up my computer to my 73" widescreen rptv thru dvi .

 

[imported_driver]

Well, obviously, if you don't play games or watch dvd's on the computer, can afford to spend twice as much, and are willing to replace the display(s) in a couple of years, then by all means go for twin 2001FP's.

 

[Euripides]

I would love to see some screenshots of Counter Strike or UT2004 on a 2001FP and a 2005FP to see how much extra Field of View is being shown with the widescreen.

The 25% coupon plus $100 concession coupon I have would get me one of these models for $499 but I just cannot decide on which one to get. At least the coupon does expire until January 5th.

 

[imported_driver]

Screenshots have been posted before in other threads -- do a search. Also, http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/ is a great place to go for this type of information.

Here's a direct link:
http://www.widescreengamingfor...um/viewtopic.php?t=513.

And here are some shots of NFSU2:
http://www.widescreengamingfor...um/viewtopic.php?t=479

 

[Euripides]

Thanks for info Driver

 

[Peter]

Does the 2005W pivot?

 

[imported_driver]

It can rotate clockwise 90 degrees to portrait orientation, if that's what you mean.

 

[Rob94hawk]

2001fp. I have 2. Doom3 and Dawn of War play great @ 1600x1200.

Anyone actually have the 2005fp?

 

[Accord99]

Originally posted by: driver
Well, obviously, if you don't play games

You can change the horizontal FOV to match the widescreen FOV and gain vertical picture.

or watch dvd's on the computer,

Difference is only ~10%.

are willing to replace the display(s) in a couple of years, then by all means go for twin 2001FP's.

a 20.1" 4:3 UXGA screen that is only 5% less wide than a 20" 16:10 screen is not going to be obsolete any time soon.

 

[imported_driver]

Originally posted by: Accord99

Originally posted by: driver
Well, obviously, if you don't play games

You can change the horizontal FOV to match the widescreen FOV and gain vertical picture.

I've already mentioned that. The side effect is that everything on screen is smaller to get it to fit. It's like playing an FPS where your viewpoint is 5 feet back from where you're actually standing. Not a very good solution. More like a kludge, actually.

or watch dvd's on the computer,

Difference is only ~10%.

are willing to replace the display(s) in a couple of years, then by all means go for twin 2001FP's.

a 20.1" 4:3 UXGA screen that is only 5% less wide than a 20" 16:10 screen is not going to be obsolete any time soon.

Did you think that a 60" 4:3 TV would have been obsolete in 2 years a couple of years ago? Technology moves incredibly fast these days.

 

[Euripides]

Holy crap, after looking at the link to the widescreen gaming forum provided by Driver. The shots for HL2 look great on the 2005FP. Will do alot more reading tonight but I am pretty much sold on the 2005FWP.

Now for the biggest, toughest thing of them all......getting this by the wife

 

[Accord99]

Originally posted by: driver

I've already mentioned that. The side effect is that everything on screen is smaller to get it to fit. It's like playing an FPS where your viewpoint is 5 feet back from where you're actually standing. Not a very good solution. More like a kludge, actually.

This is no different than what happens with the standard FOV on the 2001FP vs the WS FOV on the 2005FPW. Or how else do you think you can get a wider frame on a smaller monitor?

Did you think that a 60" 4:3 TV would have been obsolete in 2 years a couple of years ago? Technology moves incredibly fast these days.

What makes you think a 60" 4:3 TV is obsolete today? And if something makes the 2001FP obsolete, my bet is that it will make the 2005FPW obsolete as well.

Originally posted by: Euripides
Holy crap, after looking at the link to the widescreen gaming forum provided by Driver. The shots for HL2 look great on the 2005FP. Will do alot more reading tonight but I am pretty much sold on the 2005FWP.

You can get the same width picture on a 4:3 display by changing the default FOV to around 90.

 

[imported_driver]

Originally posted by: Accord99

Originally posted by: Euripides
Holy crap, after looking at the link to the widescreen gaming forum provided by Driver. The shots for HL2 look great on the 2005FP. Will do alot more reading tonight but I am pretty much sold on the 2005FWP.

You can get the same width picture on a 4:3 display by changing the default FOV to around 90.

You keep making this claim. Do you have any screenshots to show how this works or looks?

 

[imported_driver]

Originally posted by: Euripides
Holy crap, after looking at the link to the widescreen gaming forum provided by Driver. The shots for HL2 look great on the 2005FP. Will do alot more reading tonight but I am pretty much sold on the 2005FWP.

Now for the biggest, toughest thing of them all......getting this by the wife

Great to hear that. You'll love playing HL2 on that display.

I think the biggest problem out there right now is lack of information. Most people don't know how many games actually support native widescreen resolutions and how much better they look/play.