2002 Honda Civic 2 or 4 door LX 13,999 and you can get 4.9%

[SeiyaMan]

bump for the Type-R's...
so when did the hot deal forum turn into the import forum

 

[Pliablemoose]

Honda does not make trucks, their foray into SUV's & mini vans is the closest they've come. The blurb about GM diesels in Hondas refers to 4 cylinder diesels made by Isuzu (GM owns a considerable bit of Isuzu) popped into Honda cars/SUV's in Europe & elsewhere. Honda & Isuzu have had a deal going with the rebadged Isuzu Trooper sold as a Honda Passport, so there's some history to Isuzu & Honda working together. Isuzu is Japan's oldest car manufacturer, and they have a reputation for building some incredible reliable diesel engines.

I'll be happy to eat my words if someone can find a photo of a Honda truck sold anywhere.

The price on the LX Civic's is great BTW

 

[FordLorider]

Or you could get in line at your nearest Mitsubishi dealer for the Lancer Evo VII. They are finally going to import that beast! How I would love to smoke some punk 16 year old driving daddy's Corvette with 1/2 the cylinders!

 

[jclark]

I'd love the HP of the EVO VII, but if the build quality is anything like the current Lancer, I'd stay far, far away. I test drove the Lancer O-Z Rally, and for being the 'upscale' model, I was really disappointed. I'd driven a Galant 5 minutes before, and except for the logo on the airbag, I had a hard time believing they were from the same manufactuer. The Galant was quiet, smooth, with a decent interior (Better than anything American, but not quite up to Honda or Toyota, and much much better than the '01 interior.) The Lancer was noisy, had a cheap interior, and drove like a cheap, cheap, cheap econobox. I drove the Galant for about 20 min on the freeway, and another 20 on surface streets. I turned around at the first exit with the Lancer, while the sales drone gasped, "You can get off at the next exit!" Heh.

OK, I was disappointed by the WRX, too, but at least it's on a par with the rest of the Subaru line.

The Lancer sucked, but I was happy enough with the Galant that I've got a black GTZ on the way. My second choice was a Maxima SE, but for $5k less, I can live without the extra 60 HP. I must be getting old.

 

[skinsfan44]

Can't beat those Maxima engines... performace and reliability. I got 167k on my 99 SE... still runs like the day I drove it off the lot.

 

[IshmaelLeaver]

Can't beat Nissan engines in general. I've got a like-new '92 Sentra with 160,000 on it.

New SE-R V-spec, someday...

I wouldn't mind having an EVO VII solely for racing, but I'd never use it as a daily driver. I've seen and heard my share of horror stories about Dodgesubishi.

 

[gerrick]

The timing belts on both my hondas don't need to be changed until 110k or 120k. That is roughly the same as a chain. upside the belt usually costs less and it won't wear on any sprockets. replacing those adds to cost.


Honda parts cost more becasue you replace stuff 75% less. Gotta make money somewhere.

honda only has a 3/36k warranty because that is all that is needed. people talk about and buy extended warranties on them more then other cars becasue they will actually outlast the loan. the car will be around in 10 years so long as the maintenance is taken care of. the ford fucus will most likely die before a 4 or 5 year term runs out. the civic will just be broken in after 4 or 5 years.

 

[FordLorider]

Jclark, you are absolutely correct, but the Evo VII is not an Americanized economybox like the OZ Rally version is. The VII is an absolutely different car, build on a completely chassis better inside and outside. The price tag should say everything, the VII is $25,000 in Japan ($30,000 here as soon as they resolve California emission and US bumper problems) vs. the $14,000 OZ Rally. Even the WRX is a piece compared to the WRX Sti available in Japan, these cars are not build for Cadillac quality, they are build and bred for racing! You can't compare a Galant and a WRX, that's like a Taurus and Mustang!

 

[geekender]

Anyone found anything on the Honda V-8? I looked all over http://www.honda-eu.com and can't find any mention.

 

[jclark]

I wasn't really comparing the Galant to the WRX, just putting the WRX out there as another toned-down-for-the-US-version-of-a-Japanese-powerhouse.

What do I know about cars, anyway? My other car is a TR8

 

[superblast]

There are rumors of a Honda pickup for 2003. Also, the Passport SUV is being replaced this year by the Honda made Pilot which is based on the Acura MD-X. So, basically, Honda will own the lightweight SUV market soon as well.
Check out this site for lot's of good info:

http://www.vtec.net/

The "rumors & news" page is an especially good read.

 

[10102BORG]

<< But why do Hondas only have a 3/36 warranty??????? Isn't that the same a GM's warranty? Hondas have a better reliability record.
So what gives? Sounds like they'll give the customer as little as they can get away with. If you read lots of car forums, you'll find more people talking about buying an extended warranty on Hondas than on any other brand. Hmmmmmm. >>



Longer warranties are just marketing tools for inferior cars. Hyundai has a bad rep for quality, so it offers a 10 year warranty. Audi had a disaster with the sudden acceleration thing, so to bring customers back it offered a longer warranty. JD Power and Consumer Report rate Honda higher in quality than almost all GM products. In fact, aside from the Corvette, GM doesn't have a single car in the JD Power survey of initial quality. Extended Warranty on a Honda is an oxymoron. Its 100% profit for the dealers who sell this so called extended warranty.

JD Power Initial Quality Survey 2001

 

[Freejack2]

Buy what makes you happy, just don't buy a Chrysler PT cruiser. After hearing about what happened to that one AT member's wife I'd be afraid to be in one.

 

[Cleaner]

I know that American Cars have been getting a bad rap both in history/public opinion, and in the media. However I have had an extreme amount of success with my 1987 Trans Am. I bought it in high school for $2800, it had 198,000 miles on it. Now 9 years later I'm still driving it and it has 347,000 miles on it. Besides putting two clutches and two transmissions in it its rock solid. It's a northern car so its rusting to pieces but mechanically it solid. I replaced the battery, alternator, heater core, and water pump in the last 5 years. ALL OF THESE WERE ORIGINAL!!!! Other than these NOTHING else has EVER broken. I haven't even changed the brakes! I know you guys all think I'm bs'ing you but I'm not. I just take care of my cars. (I've got a 93' Dodge Caravan with 179,000 miles.)

 

[HKS]

Yup... lucky for car manufacturers that customer loyalty plays a lot more into what cars get bought then actual technology/efficiency, etc.

Honda buys V8's now? What Honda's have V8's in them? All their production cars (civic, accord, RL, CL, NSX, CRV, Odyssey, RSX... hmm... I'm sure there are some others) have either the 4-banger w/ DOHC, or their V6 (either 3.0L like the Acocrd or 3.2 like the RL and CL) I know they have one for Honda racing, but that's hand built I believe...

Saturn uses a chain instead of a belt? Hmm... my Ford Escape has a chain too. Big deal. =)





<< Hate to break it to you, even Honda uses plactic's like saturn, you know where they got the Idea... Thats right, Saturn. Honda even buys motors from GM now, mostly V8's. Look under the hood of a honda you will see a lot of Delphi relays and small parts. ALL GM.


But the Saturn has a better rating from saftey, reliability, and gas milage. That and no timing belt to break like honda.

But most people don't know that much about cars, so if thats what looks good to you. good luck. >>



True dat... I mean American diesel is still the way to go... get a F-250 Superduty with the new 6.0L from Ford.... 550@2000rpm torque, 305@3600rpm
hp.... that engine is one bad mother...

 

[Zclyh3]

I hate American cars. They aren't reliable as Japanese cars. Honda's suck too. I'll give it to them that they make pretty good family cars, but as for import racing? They suck as hell. Honda's can't compete with such dominating greats like Nissan, Toyota, Subaru. Cars such as the Skyline which has STOCK 400HP in Japan can beat any Honda car. Why do you think Honda is gearing towards making luxury/family cars? Cause they know Japanese racers don't buy Hondas.

Please keep in mind the only cars in which Honda gets props for is the NSX and the S2000. Everything else sucks.

Of course..this is just my opinion.

 

[rubenswm]

RE: Warranties

Acura has a 100,000 mile Engine and transmission warranty on their used Acuras. Beat that!!

 

[toant103]

Honda use v8?

 

[hatexdv]

This is a real hot deal. But I am not in CA. Any one know similar deals in OH, IN, IL, KY, WV, and TN?

 

[Nefrodite]

i'd advise against buying a civic now, the newer corollas actually look better and probably have slightly better quality a first in a long time for the looks [part

 

[fastz28]

<< GM can't make engines!

'Help Me, Honda. Help, Help Me, Honda' >>



"General Motors is not in the business of making motors. It's in the business of making money."

LMAO, that is such a stupid statement that I can't believe it's even written. No one, I repeat, no one is in the business of making motors. Every business is in the business of making money.

 

[Fatrix]

A million mile Honda. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8538-2002Feb27.html
I'd like to see an american car reach half that. Not in my lifetime I don' think though.

 

[fastz28]

<< A million mile Honda. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8538-2002Feb27.html
I'd like to see an american car reach half that. Not in my lifetime I don' think though. >>



Half of that? How about I'll match your Honda with a Chevy?

 

[kenkhanh]

this thread is brought back from the dead. it's last posted feb 11! and it's going OT. let's "bring it outside" shall we?

 

[gsethi]

Hello

I know you are all Talking about the 2002 Honda Civic LX. But go and see the ALL NEW 2003 Toyota Corrolla. I am not a toyota employee or anything. I used to drive a 00 corolla and that car got totalled. So i was in the market last month for a new car.

I was going to buy a Honda Civic LX 4 door and was 99.99% sure that i was getting a civic this time. Just happened to drop by at my toyota dealer to look for the new camry and boy, i saw the 03 Corolla there. If you go and see one, CIVIC wont even come near it now. Its all redesigned and is built on a LEXUS IS 300 frame.

I happened to buy the 03 Corolla S model and believe me, its really fun to drive that car. It feels a lot more heavier and more powerfull. I drove a 02 Civic too and it came no where close to the 03 Corolla.

If you guys dont know what i am talking about, just go to your local toyota dealership and you will know what you are all missing.

PS: the corollas are expensive now. I got the top of the line S model (alloy wheels, spoiler, AT etc...) for 15.8 K. Old one costed me around 13.2 K. So, i think new corollas jumped a lot in pricing but it is all worth it. Even if you will end up spending $1500 more on a corolla, i would really recommend a corolla now instead of a civic. 03 Corolla is the reason why you are seeing such low prices on the Civic now. I would wait till the middle of the year and see Honda dealers trying to selling civic at 12k. (If you are getting a civic for 10 k, then go for it).

Honda dealer wont used to sell a 02 Civic for less than 15k back in dec 01. Now, they are selling it near about 13.5 K over here. Really, go and see the Corolla and you wont even look at Civic again, (not for atleast another 2 years, untill they come up with a new Civic).