I want one really badly
Press the "listen" button on the website...it makes me cry....
Vroom....vroom...
I want that to be my vroom vroom
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: M13
GTO VALVETRAIN: 2 Over Head Valves per Cyl w/Pushrod Acuation
This the outmoded pushrod that US cars use. Europe hasn't used this in years. No wonder the US can't design a decent performance car.
Ck out what Europe and Japan use instead.
you are hereby excused from ever talking about cars on this forum again.
do you honestly know that little about motors?
now name me some cars from europe/japan that have this much power. all at 33K.
oh come on..you should have led him on...given the guy a chance....
It was going to be fun
heh, I drive a great VTEC/honda powered car.
But man you gotta give respect where its due - and the new GTO has it in spades.
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i never understood completely the purpose for buying a fast road car. most corvettes and transams and porsches i see in the street seem to drive normally. sure they often go a little faster than other cars, but other cars can go fast as well if thy wish. it seems illogical that people would buy a 400hp car if they never max out the potential of the car when driving. my brother owns an s2000 and frankly, i think its great and fast and everything, but in normal driving, itd hardly perform better than a little accord, and actually be less comfortable (ride us harsh and noisy).
it makes sense if you guys race on a track and everything (since its fun), but im not sure if everybody with these fast cars do so.
perhaps people like the feeling of flooring a mustang on a green light? still, i hardly see that happen, even from people driving fast cars. i tried relating it to people buyingt high power PCs, but it didntr really work. we have 3GHz HT cpus and super video cards, but we get that to play games- not to run benchmarks. i guess what im saying is, why buy a sports car if the advantage of sportscars over road cars can hardly be used? (i may be wrong, its just that everytime i see these fast cars in traffic, they seem to drive pretty similarly to "normal" cars). luxury cars i can understand, as they are real comfortable... but i know for one my brother never takes his s2k to go racing or anything.
maybe if i drove more of them itd make sense.
oh...I see...wow...carry on
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i never understood completely the purpose for buying a fast road car. most corvettes and transams and porsches i see in the street seem to drive normally. sure they often go a little faster than other cars, but other cars can go fast as well if thy wish. it seems illogical that people would buy a 400hp car if they never max out the potential of the car when driving. my brother owns an s2000 and frankly, i think its great and fast and everything, but in normal driving, itd hardly perform better than a little accord, and actually be less comfortable (ride us harsh and noisy).
it makes sense if you guys race on a track and everything (since its fun), but im not sure if everybody with these fast cars do so.
perhaps people like the feeling of flooring a mustang on a green light? still, i hardly see that happen, even from people driving fast cars. i tried relating it to people buyingt high power PCs, but it didntr really work. we have 3GHz HT cpus and super video cards, but we get that to play games- not to run benchmarks. i guess what im saying is, why buy a sports car if the advantage of sportscars over road cars can hardly be used? (i may be wrong, its just that everytime i see these fast cars in traffic, they seem to drive pretty similarly to "normal" cars). luxury cars i can understand, as they are real comfortable... but i know for one my brother never takes his s2k to go racing or anything.
maybe if i drove more of them itd make sense.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i never understood completely the purpose for buying a fast road car. most corvettes and transams and porsches i see in the street seem to drive normally. sure they often go a little faster than other cars, but other cars can go fast as well if thy wish. it seems illogical that people would buy a 400hp car if they never max out the potential of the car when driving. my brother owns an s2000 and frankly, i think its great and fast and everything, but in normal driving, itd hardly perform better than a little accord, and actually be less comfortable (ride us harsh and noisy).
it makes sense if you guys race on a track and everything (since its fun), but im not sure if everybody with these fast cars do so.
perhaps people like the feeling of flooring a mustang on a green light? still, i hardly see that happen, even from people driving fast cars. i tried relating it to people buyingt high power PCs, but it didntr really work. we have 3GHz HT cpus and super video cards, but we get that to play games- not to run benchmarks. i guess what im saying is, why buy a sports car if the advantage of sportscars over road cars can hardly be used? (i may be wrong, its just that everytime i see these fast cars in traffic, they seem to drive pretty similarly to "normal" cars). luxury cars i can understand, as they are real comfortable... but i know for one my brother never takes his s2k to go racing or anything.
maybe if i drove more of them itd make sense.
ever stomp down on a 300+ HP car?
ever wish you had more?
If not then you'll never understand. Its like owning you own personal roller coaster. everyday.
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
i never understood completely the purpose for buying a fast road car. most corvettes and transams and porsches i see in the street seem to drive normally. sure they often go a little faster than other cars, but other cars can go fast as well if thy wish. it seems illogical that people would buy a 400hp car if they never max out the potential of the car when driving. my brother owns an s2000 and frankly, i think its great and fast and everything, but in normal driving, itd hardly perform better than a little accord, and actually be less comfortable (ride us harsh and noisy).
it makes sense if you guys race on a track and everything (since its fun), but im not sure if everybody with these fast cars do so.
perhaps people like the feeling of flooring a mustang on a green light? still, i hardly see that happen, even from people driving fast cars. i tried relating it to people buyingt high power PCs, but it didntr really work. we have 3GHz HT cpus and super video cards, but we get that to play games- not to run benchmarks. i guess what im saying is, why buy a sports car if the advantage of sportscars over road cars can hardly be used? (i may be wrong, its just that everytime i see these fast cars in traffic, they seem to drive pretty similarly to "normal" cars). luxury cars i can understand, as they are real comfortable... but i know for one my brother never takes his s2k to go racing or anything.
maybe if i drove more of them itd make sense.
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
point taken. maybe its because i drive the s2k below 4000rpm all the time. ill try pushing it this weekend.
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
point taken. maybe its because i drive the s2k below 4000rpm all the time. ill try pushing it this weekend.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
point taken. maybe its because i drive the s2k below 4000rpm all the time. ill try pushing it this weekend.
yep, that's when they get fun.
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
point taken. maybe its because i drive the s2k below 4000rpm all the time. ill try pushing it this weekend.
yep, that's when they get fun.
Aye....my commute is only fun when I am in 2nd and third gear....for about an hour:Q
:evil:
120hp in a 1990 Honda accord is quite peepy at 5000rpm:evil:
Nothing of "this"magnitude by a long shot, but at least I am getting practice
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
point taken. maybe its because i drive the s2k below 4000rpm all the time. ill try pushing it this weekend.
yep, that's when they get fun.
Aye....my commute is only fun when I am in 2nd and third gear....for about an hour:Q
:evil:
120hp in a 1990 Honda accord is quite peepy at 5000rpm:evil:
Nothing of "this"magnitude by a long shot, but at least I am getting practice
Originally posted by: M13
GTO VALVETRAIN: 2 Over Head Valves per Cyl w/Pushrod Acuation
This the outmoded pushrod that US cars use. Europe hasn't used this in years. No wonder the US can't design a decent performance car.
Ck out what Europe and Japan use instead.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
point taken. maybe its because i drive the s2k below 4000rpm all the time. ill try pushing it this weekend.
yep, that's when they get fun.
Aye....my commute is only fun when I am in 2nd and third gear....for about an hour:Q
:evil:
120hp in a 1990 Honda accord is quite peepy at 5000rpm:evil:
Nothing of "this"magnitude by a long shot, but at least I am getting practice
hooboy - just think when you get a car that has some torque. You deserve to test drive the new GTO.
Just be careful on the throttle - don't wanna spin her out too much.
Originally posted by: zener
When I was working for Hughes which was owned by GM at the time, I had the opportunity to buy GM car at deep discount (up to 35% from MSRP). I prayed that GM came up with some exciting new car so I can buy. In 1997, new Corvette appeared. What a disapointment !!!! That darn push rod engine vibrated so much that I decided to go with the BMW 540i. Never regret my choice. As year passed, many improvements were made to the GM LS1 engine to mask its inherent shakiness due to its push rod design. However, each time I tried it out and compared it with the competion using DOHC, dissatisfaction is still the norm. Sad to say, the same thing happened with the new Corvette this year. I am thinking to go for the BMW M5. Their new V10 is smooth like silk.
Originally posted by: zener
When I was working for Hughes which was owned by GM at the time, I had the opportunity to buy GM car at deep discount (up to 35% from MSRP). I prayed that GM came up with some exciting new car so I can buy. In 1997, new Corvette appeared. What a disapointment !!!! That darn push rod engine vibrated so much that I decided to go with the BMW 540i. Never regret my choice. As year passed, many improvements were made to the GM LS1 engine to mask its inherent shakiness due to its push rod design. However, each time I tried it out and compared it with the competion using DOHC, dissatisfaction is still the norm. Sad to say, the same thing happened with the new Corvette this year. I am thinking to go for the BMW M5. Their new V10 is smooth like silk.
Originally posted by: Gunbuster
2004 Bland
2005 Get the front end looking hot
2006 Work on the sides
2007 The rump
2008 Scrap the project. create new ugly pontiac.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Gunbuster
2004 Bland
2005 Get the front end looking hot
2006 Work on the sides
2007 The rump
2008 Scrap the project. create new ugly pontiac.
*cough* 400 hp *cough* who cares what it looks like.
Originally posted by: NutBucket
*cough* Camaro *cough* Firebird *cough* [
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glad you know a real car. good choice.