2006 Dodge Magnum... Anything I should know?

Pandasaurus

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Without going into too much detail... I may have the opportunity to trade my 2002 Impreza (2.5TS/AWD/Auto, 212k miles) for a 2006 Magnum (2.7/RWD/Auto, roughly 88k miles). You can skip to the last paragraph if you don't care to read the info on the car(s) or my reasoning for wanting it, and just want to see the question.

Impreza is in decent shape physically, but needs some work mechanically (struts, timing belt, head gasket... The list goes on). So far, the Magnum appears to be in excellent shape physically AND mechanically, with the exception of a minor front end collision (sellers story is it was hit in a parking lot). The collision basically destroyed the front bumper and driver headlight. The hood and driver fender may be salvageable. Fender isn't bad (it has a small crease where it collapsed from the bumper/headlight pushing into it, I almost didn't notice at first), if it can't be fixed I'd just leave it as is, if I can. If the hood can't be salvaged, it'll need to be replaced (it doesn't close as-is, but I'm not sure how much of that is due to the bumper damage). After a cursory inspection, I couldn't see any obvious frame damage, radiator appears undamaged. If I'm looking at the correct parts, the upper radiator support is destroyed (the bumper is attached to it, so I might not be referring to the correct part), the lower may be as well, it's hard to tell without seeing from under the car.

I know the 2.7 is going to be a pretty anemic, but I've loved the body style since it came out. As is, I should get roughly the same MPG I'm getting now if not better (I'm getting 16 city typical, 19 on a good day with mixed city/highway, seller claims he's getting high 20's to low 30's highway, EPA estimates 18 city for the 2.7), it's 4 years newer (interior is way nicer), and has ~170k miles less wear and tear than my current vehicle.

My question to you all is... Assuming a PPI and Carfax don't turn up anything terrible, does anyone know of anything that would make me *not* want to do this?
 

LTC8K6

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2.7 was a sludge-o-matic, iirc.

Never heard anything good about that engine.
 

LTC8K6

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Supposedly it was revised sometime in ~2004 to be more reliable.

I still wouldn't want one.
 

rommelrommel

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2.7 is SO FUCKING SLOW.

You won't get low 30's highway without a miracle IMO.

88k may need front end work soon if not now, I think it's the lower ball joints that go on these or something.

Just getting it cosmetically decent may cost you more than you're thinking assuming nothing is too seriously wrong.

But, I'm assuming your impreza is worth next to nothing at 212k miles. If you don't mind the sweat equity I don't see this as a terrible trade. I am really not an expert about the 2.7 but the rest of the vehicle is not bad. They have some issues but nothing terrible that I'm aware of.
 

Pandasaurus

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It's his current DD, so yes, it's drivable. I know it's slow, but so is my current car. That's not a huge concern at the moment. Rough estimate based on a brief search last night puts me at around $700 plus a couple days off in the driveway, and I may be able to salvage the hood and fender (fiberglass replacement hood is $390, aluminum is $460). I might also be able to find the hood and bumper for cheaper at a local junkyard.

In all honesty, in it's current condition, I'd probably be lucky to get $2k for the Impreza. In it's current condition, I'm guessing he could probably get at least $3k for the Magnum, possibly more. He's considering a straight trade, no cash on either side, that's why I'm interested.
 

toronado97

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I've been burned by Chrysler too many times. I sure wouldn't go out of my way to trade a running vehicle for a smashed up anemic Magnum with almost 100k miles on it. You're going to be dropping serious money into that thing in six months to a year even after what you spend to get it looking halfway decent, at least imho.
 

T2urtle

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If it was a 3.5L i would say you might have a decent trade. If its getting 16mpg, i would just get a hemi.


How i see it, your impreza can go another 100k and the magnum can go maybe another 50k. But this is just from what i normally see.
 

slag

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Same body style as the Chrysler Blue Steel and Plymouth Le Tigre.

It's the same thing!
 

pauldun170

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As soon as you see a Chrysler product with a 2.7 engine, turn around and go find a puppy to throw into a river.
Whenever a 2.7 comes to life. A puppy must die.
Horrible....horrible....horrible engines
 

iamwiz82

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That was a bad era for Chrysler products and it's got an awful engine. Pass...
 

Topweasel

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The Magnum is a great looking car and at the tail end of Chryslers worst time as things were getting better and this platform was the start of that.

That said the 2.7 is a really bad engine. I mean just in it's size vs. output. The 3.5 was manageable but the 2.7 had a hard time getting the HP of the 4 bangers in the Neon and Caliber. Low acceleration from a stop is one thing, but this will be like driving a bus and will probably be screaming if you try to maintain 80 on the highway with it. It's also known for it's sludge build up issues. Meaning that the thing probably even well maintained isn't even going to have its measly rated output.
 

iamwiz82

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LX cars are actually relatively pretty solid. It's just the 2.7 POS that is bugging me about this one.

By solid you mean that the actual vehicle doesn't collapse into a cloud of dust upon closing the door? If so, then yes, it's solid...

As someone whose family was supported by Chrysler for my entire life and who has owned and loved Chrysler products, 2005-2009 was a DARK time for them. Cost cutting was goal number one of that era.
 

master_shake_

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99-2002-ish 2.7's were bad the redesign is much better,

front ends on all the charger, challenger, 300, magnum's are all crap.
 

rommelrommel

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By solid you mean that the actual vehicle doesn't collapse into a cloud of dust upon closing the door? If so, then yes, it's solid...

As someone whose family was supported by Chrysler for my entire life and who has owned and loved Chrysler products, 2005-2009 was a DARK time for them. Cost cutting was goal number one of that era.

I have an 06 SRT8 and the only thing that's gone wrong with it since I bought it with 13000 km on it is the common slight transmission fluid lead from a defective o-ring.

Was like 120 bucks to fix, only out of warranty because SRT8. I don't think that the LX platform cars were that bad.
 

Topweasel

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I have an 06 SRT8 and the only thing that's gone wrong with it since I bought it with 13000 km on it is the common slight transmission fluid lead from a defective o-ring.

Was like 120 bucks to fix, only out of warranty because SRT8. I don't think that the LX platform cars were that bad.
Their not, the platform, the transmission were mostly Benz's work. They used very crummy plastics and the bumpers sucked. That's about it. Cept when paired with this engine. It is terrible.
 
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I looked closely at an srt8 or RT a couple years back.

Front ends are total trash.

Interiors rattle.

My biggest problem was finding one that wasn't ragged to hell and back.

It was supposed to be the vacation/rainy day car, but they all were literally falling apart and dirt cheap or original owner and asking >20% of a realistic value. For what people wanted for clean ones I could've bought a new one.

Maybe the market has improved, but that's what ultimately steered me away.
 
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And if the seller is making up BS claims about mpg he is probably full of BS elsewhere.

If not for all the other reasons, I'd walk purely due to "seller claims he's getting high 20's to low 30's highway"
 

CrackRabbit

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Do the work your Impreza needs and you will have a car 10x more reliable than the Magnum could ever be.
 
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