2006 Honda Civic Si

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Nikamichi
If you had the most fun with a CRX, why not look at the RSX? It's within your price range, and you can get a Type-S w/all the standard options for under 24k.

Because you can get the Si for less, which has basically the same engine but handles better and has better standard equipment

Yes, but a higher resale value since it will be off the market soon (a la the Prelude).

Thats not true at all, look how hard it is to get an Si. RSX are a dime a dozen, Si will have a much better resale value - trust me I know

I understand what you're saying, but not everyone has an RSX Type S.

Well mark this thread, and then in 5 years well see which has better resale value (percentage of original MSRP) and I guarentee the Si will hold its value better.

Honda makes this car scarce even though everyone wants one, they limit the production any way and make it hard to get. They do this to make it a hot item well after its time - my 99' Si is worth almost the same amount now as it was when I bought it 3 years ago.

 

[Trikat]

I don't think the FIT is a good choice if you want a daily driver exciting/fun car. That thing is too weak to be fun IMHO.
I would also push you towards a Subaru Legacy as that car is one of the better sedans.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: deejayshakur

Originally posted by: Ryan
Personally - I can't wait for the 4-door Civic Si that's coming out - it's gonna be hot

that makes 2 of us.

Not if they don't make it bigger. My gf's sis has an 06 Civic Sedan and my head crunches into the roof sitting in the back.

<---6' 4"

The coupe is much better IMO, more usable space. The sedan's backseats are for children I swear

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Skold
You do present some good alternatives phreak...I'll look at the Legacy GT a little more but I was under the impression they were high twenties/low 30's price wise. They do look nice though.

I'd consider the Pontiac but my wife wouldn't. She has certain hangups and it's not worth my while to fight them.

If I had my way completely, we'd be getting a Solstace or Skye

They start around 27k for the Limited (theere's a 1500 incentive, I believe). But that's why I recommended the slightly used 2005 version. You get that initial depreciation, but all the same car. You basically save yourself around 4-5k

 

[imported_Skold]

I'm not buying for almost a year, so Civic Si availability won't be a problem. I'm more or less starting early

Does anyone know how much the Mazdaspeed3 will be approx.?

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Where mike-mike at?

oh well....Cobalt - Coupe

Reliability? It was a replacement for the Crap-a-lier...so.... Other than that, I wouldn't mind having one.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Nikamichi
If you had the most fun with a CRX, why not look at the RSX? It's within your price range, and you can get a Type-S w/all the standard options for under 24k.

Because you can get the Si for less, which has basically the same engine but handles better and has better standard equipment

Yes, but a higher resale value since it will be off the market soon (a la the Prelude).

Thats not true at all, look how hard it is to get an Si. RSX are a dime a dozen, Si will have a much better resale value - trust me I know

I understand what you're saying, but not everyone has an RSX Type S.

Well mark this thread, and then in 5 years well see which has better resale value (percentage of original MSRP) and I guarentee the Si will hold its value better.

Honda makes this car scarce even though everyone wants one, they limit the production any way and make it hard to get. They do this to make it a hot item well after its time - my 99' Si is worth almost the same amount now as it was when I bought it 3 years ago.

I know what resale value means, you don't have to spell it out. I know that the Si is not the easiest car to find, but there are so many variables that can lower it's resale value within the next five years. You've got the RSX on it's way out of production, the Civic Si sedan on it's way at the end of the year, the anticipation of Acura's new product line, and the Honda Fit, which many enthusiasts will purchase because of it's price and features (such as a torsion suspension).

It is true that the Si has always had a high resale value, but depending on it's success, the sedan may surpass it as the "vehicle to own".

 

[wasssup]

I personally like the new civic sedans over the coupes (currently drive a coupe). Maybe i'm getting old...

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If you're looking for 30mpg you can forget about the Civic Si and the 350Z. You'll get more like 23 from the Civic and you'll be lucky to get 20 from the Z.

Every Honda I've experienced will easily achieve EPA numbers even if you hammer on it some (WOT runs up the on ramp, etc.) Drive conservatively and you'll easily top EPA numbers.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If you're looking for 30mpg you can forget about the Civic Si and the 350Z. You'll get more like 23 from the Civic and you'll be lucky to get 20 from the Z.

Every Honda I've experienced will easily achieve EPA numbers even if you hammer on it some (WOT runs up the on ramp, etc.) Drive conservatively and you'll easily top EPA numbers.

Well, I'd say initially when you're getting used to the car, it won't happen (I.e. when you're a bit heavy on the throttle -- desperate to see its limits), but overtime, it probably will be fine.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If you're looking for 30mpg you can forget about the Civic Si and the 350Z. You'll get more like 23 from the Civic and you'll be lucky to get 20 from the Z.

Every Honda I've experienced will easily achieve EPA numbers even if you hammer on it some (WOT runs up the on ramp, etc.) Drive conservatively and you'll easily top EPA numbers.

My gf has an 06 Coupe automatic and with over 1K miles she's only getting 27MPG city driving conservatively with lots of stop & go; roughly 38MPG highway when we were doing slower back roads from 60-70. Then we took a straight highway for 2 hours with LOTS of pedal to the floor acceleration and still got about 38MPG; the base 1.8L engine is so damn slow above 80MPH its not funny.

 

[Svnla]

OP, did you take a close look at the Eclipse? I saw one in person a few days ago. The front and sides are looking good but the rear is bad. The rear looks just like the Cougar, too round for my taste.

I will pick the Civic Si for sure, almost 200 hp natural, non turbo power at your disposal.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If you're looking for 30mpg you can forget about the Civic Si and the 350Z. You'll get more like 23 from the Civic and you'll be lucky to get 20 from the Z.

Every Honda I've experienced will easily achieve EPA numbers even if you hammer on it some (WOT runs up the on ramp, etc.) Drive conservatively and you'll easily top EPA numbers.

My gf has an 06 Coupe automatic and with over 1K miles she's only getting 27MPG city driving conservatively with lots of stop & go; roughly 38MPG highway when we were doing slower back roads from 60-70. Then we took a straight highway for 2 hours with LOTS of pedal to the floor acceleration and still got about 38MPG; the base 1.8L engine is so damn slow above 80MPH its not funny.

Problem 1 - automatic.

Any small engine stinks with a slushbox...no matter how good it is. Go drive a 5-speed base model and get back to me

But, you do prove my point about EPA numbers on the highway no matter how you drive it

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Nikamichi
If you had the most fun with a CRX, why not look at the RSX? It's within your price range, and you can get a Type-S w/all the standard options for under 24k.

Because you can get the Si for less, which has basically the same engine but handles better and has better standard equipment

Umm, I thought the RSX engine has more horse power, more refine, and more luxury? I thought it is more like "a upper scale" Civic.

<<----- used to drive a coupe Honda.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: NutBucket
Problem 1 - automatic.

Any small engine stinks with a slushbox...no matter how good it is. Go drive a 5-speed base model and get back to me

But, you do prove my point about EPA numbers on the highway no matter how you drive it

In case you don't know, the auto is a 5-speed and is actually rated higher EPA than the manual due to better gear ratios I guess. I know that doesn't make up for it being an auto, but its not your average four speed slushbox

I agree about Honda's in general though. I've seen numerous people on Accord forums say they get 28-30MPG city driving conservatively, and upper 30's on the highway to boot. (With the 2.4L of course) Sad thing is her "old" 2001 Saturn L200 2.2L 4-speed auto got 26MPG city driving conservatively and 32-34MPG highway, with a HELL of a lot more pep to it. Also handles a sh!t load better than the Civic too.

 

[boyRacer]

Lowest markup I've seen on an Si around here is $2000... making it $22540. Seems like a lot more people in other states can get them at MSRP.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: bR
Lowest markup I've seen on an Si around here is $2000... making it $22540. Seems like a lot more people in other states can get them at MSRP.

If you want a one...I have a pretty good idea on how to get one at MSRP.

 

[imported_Skold]

The new Civic Si basically outdoes the RSX Type-S in every way performance wise. It's gearing and suspension/handling are all superior and the engine is a little better too. It's cheaper, and some may say better looking.

Basically, the new Civic Si makes the RSX-S obsolete.

Also, for all who care, the car I buy WILL be a manual transmission...forgot to mention that!

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: NutBucket
Problem 1 - automatic.

Any small engine stinks with a slushbox...no matter how good it is. Go drive a 5-speed base model and get back to me

But, you do prove my point about EPA numbers on the highway no matter how you drive it

In case you don't know, the auto is a 5-speed and is actually rated higher EPA than the manual due to better gear ratios I guess. I know that doesn't make up for it being an auto, but its not your average four speed slushbox

Slush box is a slush box....don't care how good it is. 1 mpg difference in EPA ratings means nothing.

 

[Chunkee]

only 139ftlbs of torque?

jC

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: Chunkee
only 139ftlbs of torque?

jC

Hey, didn't you get the memo, that's powerful!

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Skold
OK, so I'll be buying a new car in the next 12 months or so. We want a coupe that's sporty, reliable, and looks good. So far, I'm considering the Mazda3, Scion, WRX, Eclipse, 350Z(pricey), but mostly I'm pretty fixated on the '06 Civic Si.

My price range is approx. 18-25k

My previous cars:

1 '84 Pontiac Fiero (LOL)
2 '89 Honda CRX Si's (Most fun)
1 '02 Subaru WRX (Fastest and fun but not as agile as the CRXs)
1 '03 Toyota 4Runner (Family hauler)

Some criteria:

-30 or better highway gas mileage
-no convertables
-no 2 seaters (I know...the Z is 2 seater)
-Coupe highly preferred over 4 door

There just doesn't seem to be anything that touches the Civic Si given my criteria. The Eclipse looks good but I'm not sure about reliablility and it's heavy and not too agile I hear.

What are y'alls opinions?

Scions have sh!tty interiors from what i've hread. The Z car isn't in the same class at all, i wouldn't even include it as a possibility. I'm pretty sure that a WRC will cost a lot more than the other 3 cars (scion, mazda3, civic si, eclipse), so that's not really a comparioson either.

Out of the 3 remaining, Civic Si would be my fave hand downs. I've driven a 3 and the previous gen Civic Si and Si was a clear winner there as far as sportines goes. Keep in mind that it takes premium though.

 

[Chunkee]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Chunkee
only 139ftlbs of torque?

jC

Hey, didn't you get the memo, that's powerful!

Out of 197 hp...dunno

what are the 0-60 times on this hyped car..

bunch o honda fan boys on here

guess never thought they were that great...styling is always lackluster...drab...

jC

 

[RiDE]

Originally posted by: Chunkee

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Chunkee
only 139ftlbs of torque?

jC

Hey, didn't you get the memo, that's powerful!

Out of 197 hp...dunno

what are the 0-60 times on this hyped car..

bunch o honda fan boys on here

guess never thought they were that great...styling is always lackluster...drab...

jC

It's a Honda Civic. What the hell do you people expect with this car?

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Chunkee

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Chunkee
only 139ftlbs of torque?

jC

Hey, didn't you get the memo, that's powerful!

Out of 197 hp...dunno

what are the 0-60 times on this hyped car..

bunch o honda fan boys on here

guess never thought they were that great...styling is always lackluster...drab...

jC

7.2 and 1/4 mile in 15.1

I actually really like the new styling. It's a lot better than the competition imo (cobalt? that dodge suv-minvan-truck monstrosity?)


Oh yeah if you want somethign really quick (but again sh!tty interior), check out Neon SRTs