2008 Ford Focus unveiled

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drum

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Ford Ranger is all i'm concerned about. that's all i've ever driven since I was first licensed to drive
 

adlep

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
I always wondered why Ford has better cars overseas than here...

Ditto,
Ford is considered one of the BETTER brands in Europe and much more popular than the Japanese cars..
So why the Ford would not capitalize on that is beyond me.
It is quite possible that Ford is trying to commit a suicide in the US?

 

SketchMaster

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Originally posted by: adlep
Originally posted by: Insane3D
I always wondered why Ford has better cars overseas than here...

Ditto,
Ford is considered one of the BETTER brands in Europe and much more popular than the Japanese cars..
So why the Ford would not capitalize on that is beyond me.
It is quite possible that Ford is trying to commit a suicide in the US?

I think I remember someone from AU (who is also a lucky SOB with a Falcon) posted saying that Ford of USA and Ford of AU are pretty much separate company's. I'm sure there is more to it then that so I'll let others chime in to better explain it.
 

redgtxdi

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Thoroughly disappointed in an '06 rental I drove last month.


This Focus would have to be a TOTAL revamp for me to even consider it.


Toyota>Ford by a light year!
 

Sukhoi

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Originally posted by: adlep
Originally posted by: Insane3D
I always wondered why Ford has better cars overseas than here...

Ditto,
Ford is considered one of the BETTER brands in Europe and much more popular than the Japanese cars..
So why the Ford would not capitalize on that is beyond me.
It is quite possible that Ford is trying to commit a suicide in the US?

I've been wondering too. A guy at work was in Ford management for a while so I'll try to find out tomorrow.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I think this new thing looks like crap. The Mazda 3 is leaps and bounds nicer. It does have a Volvo-looking interior though.

I am sure Ford doesn't mind if you buy a Mazda3 over the Focus, seeing how it owns a huge chunk of Mazda.

Also, let's not forget that you're going to be paying a lot more for the Mazda (with incentives, the Focus is selling for around $13k for the highest end model).

It is also weird how Ford operates. Others have brought it up. Ford makes some of the best selling vehicles in the world, yet they keep those top sellers separate on each continent (F-150 here, Focus in Europe etc). The Focus used to be similar, but even then, the European version did offer more.
 

Insane3D

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Originally posted by: Strk

Also, let's not forget that you're going to be paying a lot more for the Mazda (with incentives, the Focus is selling for around $13k for the highest end model).

It is also weird how Ford operates. Others have brought it up. Ford makes some of the best selling vehicles in the world, yet they keep those top sellers separate on each continent (F-150 here, Focus in Europe etc). The Focus used to be similar, but even then, the European version did offer more.

Well, that may be the case with the 3, but I got an awesome deal on the Speed6 because no one knows about them. ~$7k under MSRP, ~$4k under dealer invoice.

 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Strk
It is also weird how Ford operates. Others have brought it up. Ford makes some of the best selling vehicles in the world, yet they keep those top sellers separate on each continent (F-150 here, Focus in Europe etc). The Focus used to be similar, but even then, the European version did offer more.
They can charge significantly more for a car the size of a Focus in Europe, hence they can afford to put more into, making the European Focus a classier act. It's as simple as that.

 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: AMDUALY
I always have hated their logo. The rest of the car may look all good then bam. A plain unsymmetrical logo.

Wow AMDUALY (the classic asian fanboy) is really reaching here.

I like the car, not the outside but the interior is nice. AC controls remind me of the new Volvo's.
 

DukeN

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Im sure it has already been recalled by now. (Focus apparently is the world's most recalled car til date IIRC)
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Strk
It is also weird how Ford operates. Others have brought it up. Ford makes some of the best selling vehicles in the world, yet they keep those top sellers separate on each continent (F-150 here, Focus in Europe etc). The Focus used to be similar, but even then, the European version did offer more.
They can charge significantly more for a car the size of a Focus in Europe, hence they can afford to put more into, making the European Focus a classier act. It's as simple as that.

Thank you! That is a major reason, the other is reason is more lax regulations on emissions, safety (body crumple zones), and other types of laws.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Strk
It is also weird how Ford operates. Others have brought it up. Ford makes some of the best selling vehicles in the world, yet they keep those top sellers separate on each continent (F-150 here, Focus in Europe etc). The Focus used to be similar, but even then, the European version did offer more.
They can charge significantly more for a car the size of a Focus in Europe, hence they can afford to put more into, making the European Focus a classier act. It's as simple as that.

I don't think that's necessarily true. A lot of the features that could have been added are slowly being added. A bulk of the price differences can be attributed to taxes.
 
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The outside isn't spectacular, but it isn't bad. On the other hand, the inside does look pretty nice.
 

Lotheron

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Strk

Also, let's not forget that you're going to be paying a lot more for the Mazda (with incentives, the Focus is selling for around $13k for the highest end model).

It is also weird how Ford operates. Others have brought it up. Ford makes some of the best selling vehicles in the world, yet they keep those top sellers separate on each continent (F-150 here, Focus in Europe etc). The Focus used to be similar, but even then, the European version did offer more.

Well, that may be the case with the 3, but I got an awesome deal on the Speed6 because no one knows about them. ~$7k under MSRP, ~$4k under dealer invoice.



You and that MS6


I'm right there with you though!

 

Insane3D

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Originally posted by: Slashur


You and that MS6


I'm right there with you though!



Well, it is the first new car I've had in 14 years...

Also, nobody knowing about it has served me well. The town registered me as a 4 cylinder Mazda "6 series"...for $100 less than I was expecting.

:Q
 

Lotheron

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Slashur


You and that MS6


I'm right there with you though!



Well, it is the first new car I've had in 14 years...

Also, nobody knowing about it has served me well. The town registered me as a 4 cylinder Mazda "6 series"...for $100 less than I was expecting.

:Q


Oh they of little knowledge!! LOL..
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: Jahee
Originally posted by: SketchMaster
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Not as nice as the Euro Focus...Mondeo.

Euro Focus is still... a Focus and looks the same.

ah huh

AU Focus looks nice.


Haha is that what they call it there, the focus XR5... for those that know, is the focus the same car in england aswell as the US? or is it different?

The Orange car is the Focus ST. It has the Volvo five pot with a snail, but only 225hp. Don't get me wrong, it's plenty of grunt for a Focus, but 250 is just a sweet number. nothing a little remap won't fix however.
 

leeland

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bm'd for a buddy at work...as a JOKE...he drives a 93 focus with like 200,000 miles on it and HATES the POS
 

senseamp

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Originally posted by: leeland
bm'd for a buddy at work...as a JOKE...he drives a 93 focus with like 200,000 miles on it and HATES the POS

You mean he walks to work, since Focus didn't exist in 93? I would hate that POS public transportation too.
 

Mermaidman

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Originally posted by: teckmaster
Looks pretty nice. I'm glad they are going with a coupe version instead of the hatchback though.

Why? Coupes are such a useless concept. Ford should have a hatch like the Mazda6.
Mazda6 Hatchback

It looks better than the sedan.
 
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