2008 Ford Mustang Shelby Cobra GT500KR revealed

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: JasonCoder
So essentially they got a custom tune and added a CAI to produce 540HP? That's sick. People... don't feel the pressure to lay down $90k+ just to have a cobra/SVT badge on your car. Buy a stock GT and mod from there. Yes SVT, Shelby, etc. make nice mods but so can you.

With bolt ons you can probably add 40 HP to the stock GT. With a supercharger, probably close to 500 HP, but you'll also need to replace quite a few things and probably get some forged internals. So you can probably get 500 HP for GT base price + $10k if you install everything yourself. I paid around $30k for my fully upgraded GT, so $40k total would give me something similar to the performance of a Shelby, minus the appearance mods.

As long as you keep it a GT.

 

[NFS4]

That car is currently my background. So mean, so bitchin, so hot!

 

[Triumph]

540 horsepower? I'm sure it still won't be able to pull off 11.2 second quarter miles on stock tires. Z06 owns!

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Triumph
540 horsepower? I'm sure it still won't be able to pull off 11.2 second quarter miles on stock tires. Z06 owns!

I can pull an 11.2 in my bolt on modded Cobra.

I am not arguing the Z06 is awesome, but lets look at the prices and the purposes of each car.

And, do not give me mark up crap...people want to pay it for a reason. But looking at MSRP's, it is obvious.

BTW some people are easily putting down 600hp with the GT500 currently getting them in the low 10's some 9's...this will be no different.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: NFS4
That car is currently my background. So mean, so bitchin, so hot!

Baby jesus cries that you used bitchin to describe a Mustang...

 

[50cent1228]

omg!!!!!!!!

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Triumph
540 horsepower? I'm sure it still won't be able to pull off 11.2 second quarter miles on stock tires. Z06 owns!

I can pull an 11.2 in my bolt on modded Cobra.

I am not arguing the Z06 is awesome, but lets look at the prices and the purposes of each car.

And, do not give me mark up crap...people want to pay it for a reason. But looking at MSRP's, it is obvious.

BTW some people are easily putting down 600hp with the GT500 currently getting them in the low 10's some 9's...this will be no different.

These are stock Z06's on stock tires.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Triumph
540 horsepower? I'm sure it still won't be able to pull off 11.2 second quarter miles on stock tires. Z06 owns!

I can pull an 11.2 in my bolt on modded Cobra.

I am not arguing the Z06 is awesome, but lets look at the prices and the purposes of each car.

And, do not give me mark up crap...people want to pay it for a reason. But looking at MSRP's, it is obvious.

BTW some people are easily putting down 600hp with the GT500 currently getting them in the low 10's some 9's...this will be no different.

These are stock Z06's on stock tires.

Which cost $70k brand new, bone stock.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Triumph
540 horsepower? I'm sure it still won't be able to pull off 11.2 second quarter miles on stock tires. Z06 owns!

I can pull an 11.2 in my bolt on modded Cobra.

I am not arguing the Z06 is awesome, but lets look at the prices and the purposes of each car.

And, do not give me mark up crap...people want to pay it for a reason. But looking at MSRP's, it is obvious.

BTW some people are easily putting down 600hp with the GT500 currently getting them in the low 10's some 9's...this will be no different.

These are stock Z06's on stock tires.

Which cost $70k brand new, bone stock.

How much you think this GT500KR is going to cost? I bet you lot more than $70k with dealer markup. You can now get Z06 for couple grand off MSRP.

 

[oztrailrider]

That is one tough looking car. It's nice to see Ford getting back to decent styling both here in Australia (FPV Falcons are very nice) and in the states. They've been off track for a long time.

 

[soydios]

The Mustang is a nice car. Bigger wheels, bigger front air dam, and a bigger engine make it that much sexier, to boot.

 

[Viperoni]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Triumph
540 horsepower? I'm sure it still won't be able to pull off 11.2 second quarter miles on stock tires. Z06 owns!

I can pull an 11.2 in my bolt on modded Cobra.

I am not arguing the Z06 is awesome, but lets look at the prices and the purposes of each car.

And, do not give me mark up crap...people want to pay it for a reason. But looking at MSRP's, it is obvious.

BTW some people are easily putting down 600hp with the GT500 currently getting them in the low 10's some 9's...this will be no different.

These are stock Z06's on stock tires.

Which cost $70k brand new, bone stock.

The Z06 will also do a few other things that Shelby won't.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Viperoni

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Triumph
540 horsepower? I'm sure it still won't be able to pull off 11.2 second quarter miles on stock tires. Z06 owns!

I can pull an 11.2 in my bolt on modded Cobra.

I am not arguing the Z06 is awesome, but lets look at the prices and the purposes of each car.

And, do not give me mark up crap...people want to pay it for a reason. But looking at MSRP's, it is obvious.

BTW some people are easily putting down 600hp with the GT500 currently getting them in the low 10's some 9's...this will be no different.

These are stock Z06's on stock tires.

Which cost $70k brand new, bone stock.

The Z06 will also do a few other things that Shelby won't.

Ummm like I said ignoring the damn markup, the GT500KR will be around 50 grand...20 less than the z06.

 

[exdeath]

Meh... heavy pig and no IRS.

Make it 3,500 lbs TOPS with a built IRS and I'll buy one.

I mean, after all, the point of no IRS was to 'cut weight and costs' (Ford's own words) yet the GT500s are 500 lbs heavier and cost 3x as much as the 03-04s. What gives?

Where the fvck is all this weight coming from? The sheet metal on these new cars must be like 1/4" thick! All of them, the new Mustang, Camaro, Charger, etc. I thought the 03 Cobra and 06 GTO were heavy enough as it was at ~3,700 lbs. All the new era muscle cars are pushing 4,100 lbs now :| It's no wonder the import guys are happy making 300HP with their 1990 lb hatches.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: exdeath
Meh... heavy pig and no IRS.

Make it 3,500 lbs TOPS with a built IRS and I'll buy one.

I mean, after all, the point of no IRS was to 'cut weight and costs' (Ford's own words) yet the GT500s are 500 lbs heavier and cost 3x as much as the 03-04s. What gives?

Where the fvck is all this weight coming from? The sheet metal on these new cars must be like 1/4" thick! All of them, the new Mustang, Camaro, Charger, etc. I thought the 03 Cobra and 06 GTO were heavy enough as it was at ~3,700 lbs. All the new era muscle cars are pushing 4,100 lbs now :| It's no wonder the import guys are happy making 300HP with their 1990 lb hatches.

Wrong. The point of no IRS is to keep the car happy with people who actually buy Mustangs, not people who like to bitch about them. An IRS would cause wheel hop galore and need an expensive IRS brace to take to the drag strip or mod. Most would swap it out for a solid live axle anyway, like most did with their 03/04 Cobras. The ride difference is negligible.

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: Estrella
I typically do not like much anything american. A mustang with w/e in it is still a mustang. Kind of like, a frog is still a frog even if it has a jet engine duct-taped to it. Just a faster frog. I would rather see the money go to financing a z06 or a (slower, but more stylish and livable) 911.

I would however be interested to see if it could beat the Rousche Stang around the top gear track(does the KR have a comparable suspension?)

Thats true. I also friggin hate Toyota and anything that sh\tty car company makes.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: exdeath
Meh... heavy pig and no IRS.

Make it 3,500 lbs TOPS with a built IRS and I'll buy one.

I mean, after all, the point of no IRS was to 'cut weight and costs' (Ford's own words) yet the GT500s are 500 lbs heavier and cost 3x as much as the 03-04s. What gives?

Where the fvck is all this weight coming from? The sheet metal on these new cars must be like 1/4" thick! All of them, the new Mustang, Camaro, Charger, etc. I thought the 03 Cobra and 06 GTO were heavy enough as it was at ~3,700 lbs. All the new era muscle cars are pushing 4,100 lbs now :| It's no wonder the import guys are happy making 300HP with their 1990 lb hatches.

Wrong. The point of no IRS is to keep the car happy with people who actually buy Mustangs, not people who like to bitch about them. An IRS would cause wheel hop galore and need an expensive IRS brace to take to the drag strip or mod. Most would swap it out for a solid live axle anyway, like most did with their 03/04 Cobras. The ride difference is negligible.

True, the third reason was 'mustang fans prefer a solid axle anyway' but they did actually say that weight reduction and cost were primary factors in going with a solid axle, neither of which actually showed up on the end vehicle anyway.

Still doesn't explain where all the weight comes from. Can't wait until 2010 when the new Cobra and Camaro SS weight 6,400 lbs!

 

[thomsbrain]

so if the last "500 HP" mustang got wasted by cars with significantly less power (stock corvette, for example), can we also assume that this version doesn't put out the claimed power? what should we assume? 425 HP?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I'm not a fan. To me, they still seem like such white trash cars. At least around here, every asshole has one. Not a Shelby version mind you, but a new Mustang. I'd rather have the new Challenger or Camaro in 08.

That is pretty funny considering historically the Camaro is the de facto white trash mullet machine.

Yeah, where the hell do you live? lol

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
so if the last "500 HP" mustang got wasted by cars with significantly less power (stock corvette, for example), can we also assume that this version doesn't put out the claimed power? what should we assume? 425 HP?

Another Top Gear fanboy. Ford never claimed it had 500hp rwd (which is what a dyno on TG would show). It does in fact have 500hp at the flywheel. :roll:

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Conky

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I still prefer the original ones. My step daughter keeps saying she is going to get one and I keep telling her to be patient as her and her husband will have one worth a lot more some day.

New Cobras own the old ones in every way imaginable. I love old musclecars but todays new musclecars are much better... and they don't leave oil stains on your driveway.

I didn't make a judgment on which one was better, I merely said that I prefer the old ones. I am quite aware of the capability of newer muscle car as I have modified quite a few. Why do you think my 66 Fastback is a not a restoration as it has EFI and 5 speed and many other modern features.

If you want to really talk about COBRAS then the original 1967 AC Cobra with the 427 is still hard to beat with a new car performance car. I don't know many cars that can go 0-100-0 in 13 seconds.

:Q

That would be sweet... Nobody behind me would be very happy, though... as I'd just be doing it over and over again.

Hmm.. on second thought, they would probably still be so far behind that it wouldn't matter......

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
so if the last "500 HP" mustang got wasted by cars with significantly less power (stock corvette, for example), can we also assume that this version doesn't put out the claimed power? what should we assume? 425 HP?

That is history dude. Check out the 03/04 Cobra and the new 07 GT500 Cobra, both are severely underrated on purpose just because of failed promises with previous years.

'03s are rated 390 HP and dyno 370 at the wheels so its more like 425 HP stock. Even with even basic mods the '03s/04s own the streets with numbers like 9s ETs and 700+ HP to the wheels on pump gas on stock long blocks.

About the only thing that can touch them is a blown Z06 or turbo SRT-10, both of which we are talking 6 digit price tags to beat a 30k car with a few bolt ons.

And if you want to talk about 'twisties' I'd rather be one second slower on the corners than ten seconds slower on the straights :evil:

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Triumph
540 horsepower? I'm sure it still won't be able to pull off 11.2 second quarter miles on stock tires. Z06 owns!

I can pull an 11.2 in my bolt on modded Cobra.

I am not arguing the Z06 is awesome, but lets look at the prices and the purposes of each car.

And, do not give me mark up crap...people want to pay it for a reason. But looking at MSRP's, it is obvious.

BTW some people are easily putting down 600hp with the GT500 currently getting them in the low 10's some 9's...this will be no different.

These are stock Z06's on stock tires.

Which cost $70k brand new, bone stock.

How much you think this GT500KR is going to cost? I bet you lot more than $70k with dealer markup. You can now get Z06 for couple grand off MSRP.

Yup and the z06 is sure as rare and as collectible as this KR will be.