2009 NBA Finals

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: herkulease
hopefully Sunday will be another close game. Magic shouldn't give up. Kobe and the Lakers have choked a 3-1 lead before. Granted that was with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker but shit happens.

:laugh:

 

[dahunan]

Hopefully Sunday 3 of the Lakers starting 5 will be in serious foul trouble and Dwight will only have one at halftime
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Hopefully Sunday the Magic will shoot 17 free throws in the 4th quarter and the league only allows the Lakers to shoot zero

 

[SP33Demon]

Guys, what are your thoughts on Stan Van Gundy just getting totally outcoached this game? IMO he sucked ass and has been outclassed by Jackson all series. Why the fck are you telling Jameer Nelson to double Kobe IN THE PAINT in OT when Fish and Ariza are camping the 3pt line and hot? Why didn't you tell Nelson to foul with <10 secs to prevent LA from getting a 3pt attempt to tie? Why didn't you get Lewis involved more? Why weren't there more pick and rolls with Howard (your team's bread and butter) at the end? Just a few questions for the fat man.

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Guys, what are your thoughts on Stan Van Gundy just getting totally outcoached this game? IMO he sucked ass and has been outclassed by Jackson all series. Why the fck are you telling Jameer Nelson to double Kobe IN THE PAINT in OT when Fish and Ariza are camping the 3pt line and hot? Why didn't you tell Nelson to foul with <10 secs to prevent LA from getting a 3pt attempt to tie? Why didn't you get Lewis involved more? Why weren't there more pick and rolls with Howard (your team's bread and butter) at the end? Just a few questions for the fat man.

he must really hate Rafer Alston. because if Phil was coaching the Magic, he would never have put in Nelson

then again if phil was coaching that team would be at a loss trying to figure out the triangle offense and just throw up 3s and ignore Dwight howard.

 

[EKKC]

sorry

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: scorpious
Howard stat line: 16 pts, 21 boards, 9 blocks.

He may not have it altogether offensively, but there is no question about his defense.

I wish Bynum would get inspired by his defensive prowess. We could definitely use a power to Gasol's finesse.

Defensively he dominated the paint. And beyond.

Offensively, he didn't just suck, he was a liability (atleast in the 2nd half).

It's weird, sometimes he looks smooth/quick as hell and other times he looks downright awkward. Guess it all depends on whether or not the shot goes in

I think he tries to force it too much when everyone collapses on him, and he thinks he's athletic enough to get off the shot, which winds up off-balance.

Imo his main problem is that he has no arsenal further than 4ft from the basket, and even that's troublesome in traffic. All that athleticism and 5 years in the league, and he's really still just a dunker (as far as being consistent/reliable with anything...other than a layup)

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: herkulease
hopefully Sunday will be another close game. Magic shouldn't give up. Kobe and the Lakers have choked a 3-1 lead before. Granted that was with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker but shit happens.

you talking about the Phoenix series like 3 years ago?

yeah that series.

followed it up with a blowout @ Suns, lose @ home in OT then get blown out and lose the series in phoenix.

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: herkulease
hopefully Sunday will be another close game. Magic shouldn't give up. Kobe and the Lakers have choked a 3-1 lead before. Granted that was with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker but shit happens.

you talking about the Phoenix series like 3 years ago?

yeah that series.

followed it up with a blowout @ Suns, lose @ home in OT then get blown out and lose the series in phoenix.

but i think you answered your question. that team had kwame and smush parker.

where are they now?
(I think Kwame is in Detroit?)

 

[neegotiator]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: NYHoustonman

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: scorpious
Howard stat line: 16 pts, 21 boards, 9 blocks.

He may not have it altogether offensively, but there is no question about his defense.

I wish Bynum would get inspired by his defensive prowess. We could definitely use a power to Gasol's finesse.

Defensively he dominated the paint. And beyond.

Offensively, he didn't just suck, he was a liability (atleast in the 2nd half).

It's weird, sometimes he looks smooth/quick as hell and other times he looks downright awkward. Guess it all depends on whether or not the shot goes in

I think he tries to force it too much when everyone collapses on him, and he thinks he's athletic enough to get off the shot, which winds up off-balance.

Imo his main problem is that he has no arsenal further than 4ft from the basket, and even that's troublesome in traffic. All that athleticism and 5 years in the league, and he's really still just a dunker (as far as being consistent/reliable with anything...other than a layup)

makes u wonder what the hell they're paying patrick ewing for

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Guys, what are your thoughts on Stan Van Gundy just getting totally outcoached this game? IMO he sucked ass and has been outclassed by Jackson all series. Why the fck are you telling Jameer Nelson to double Kobe IN THE PAINT in OT when Fish and Ariza are camping the 3pt line and hot? Why didn't you tell Nelson to foul with <10 secs to prevent LA from getting a 3pt attempt to tie? Why didn't you get Lewis involved more? Why weren't there more pick and rolls with Howard (your team's bread and butter) at the end? Just a few questions for the fat man.

he must really hate Rafer Alston. because if Phil was coaching the Magic, he would never have put in Nelson (maybe do a switch play him as the backup to Alston instead)

then again if phil was coaching that team would be at a loss trying to figure out the triangle offense and just throw up 3s and ignore Dwight howard.

Agreed, Alston got them there throughout the whole playoffs and Nelson is barely in playoff shape. Why would you screw with your team chemistry IN THE FINALS, just b/c Nelson was an All Star in tiptop shape? Sad. Nelson does make some good passes but Alston is a bigger scoring threat and plays with much more energy.

Not sure why you think Phil would ignore Howard, being that he won 3 titles with Shaq. /shrug

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: herkulease
hopefully Sunday will be another close game. Magic shouldn't give up. Kobe and the Lakers have choked a 3-1 lead before. Granted that was with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker but shit happens.

you talking about the Phoenix series like 3 years ago?

yeah that series.

followed it up with a blowout @ Suns, lose @ home in OT then get blown out and lose the series in phoenix.

No there was a team with zero interior.

 

[herkulease]

Rafer probably just smiles to much that SVG got sick of it. Sure he took some bad shots but that was during the time when all the Magics were making bone head plays. At least he was driving forcing the lakers to collapse.

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dbk

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: dbk

um.. no dude, the Magic knew it was over by then... Pietrius knew what he was doing...

The league is going to review it but I have no doubt in my mind that they will upgrade it. Question is, will they suspend him over it with a flagrant 2?

i highly doubt it... gasol did overreact a bit.. it was kinda funny

He's Euro. They overreact to every foul.

It was a Frenchman vs. a Spaniard. If this was a soccer game all hell would've broken loose

 

[RiDE]

Originally posted by: EKKC
It was a Frenchman vs. a Spaniard. If this was a soccer game all hell would've broken loose

:laugh:

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Guys, what are your thoughts on Stan Van Gundy just getting totally outcoached this game? IMO he sucked ass and has been outclassed by Jackson all series. Why the fck are you telling Jameer Nelson to double Kobe IN THE PAINT in OT when Fish and Ariza are camping the 3pt line and hot? Why didn't you tell Nelson to foul with <10 secs to prevent LA from getting a 3pt attempt to tie? Why didn't you get Lewis involved more? Why weren't there more pick and rolls with Howard (your team's bread and butter) at the end? Just a few questions for the fat man.

he must really hate Rafer Alston. because if Phil was coaching the Magic, he would never have put in Nelson (maybe do a switch play him as the backup to Alston instead)

then again if phil was coaching that team would be at a loss trying to figure out the triangle offense and just throw up 3s and ignore Dwight howard.

Agreed, Alston got them there throughout the whole playoffs and Nelson is barely in playoff shape. Why would you screw with your team chemistry IN THE FINALS, just b/c Nelson was an All Star in tiptop shape? Sad. Nelson does make some good passes but Alston is a bigger scoring threat and plays with much more energy.

Not sure why you think Phil would ignore Howard, being that he won 3 titles with Shaq. /shrug

i meant his team wont be able to feed Dwight. if phil was coaching. the center is part of the Triangle, but Turk, Lewis, Alston, and the backbreaking-frenchmen are shooters. i didnt mean that as Phil ignores centers.

Originally posted by: herkulease
Rafer probably just smiles to much that SVG got sick of it. Sure he took some bad shots but that was during the time when all the Magics were making bone head plays. At least he was driving forcing the lakers to collapse.

Nelson annoys me more with his stupid mouthpiece hanging out. someone should rip that out of his mouth and throw it at him.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: herkulease
Rafer probably just smiles to much that SVG got sick of it. Sure he took some bad shots but that was during the time when all the Magics were making bone head plays. At least he was driving forcing the lakers to collapse.

It seemed his head got discombobulated again in the second half, as it often does. He wasn't sure when to be aggressive and when to setup. Talking smack back to van gundy at the timeout too didn't exactly help his case for getting back into the game either.

 

[herkulease]

Tough choice, Rafer's constantly smiling or Jameer's hanging mouth piece. I do want to smack both of them upside the head. Can I bonk both of their heads together?

 

[SP33Demon]

Stan Van Gundy: "We felt that 11 seconds was too much to start shooting foul shots, and we just gave too much space on the 3. But in retrospect [maybe we should have fouled]..." No sht? And why the fck would you full court press on that play? My God. Almost every normal team with a 3pt lead fouls with that much time left and Stan wanted to be special and got burned. Orlando gets Phil Jackson and it's a whole other outcome, this coach is garbage.

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Stan Van Gundy: "We felt that 11 seconds was too much to start shooting foul shots, and we just gave too much space on the 3. But in retrospect [maybe we should have fouled]..." No sht? And why the fck would you full court press on that play? My God. Almost every normal team with a 3pt lead fouls with that much time left and Stan wanted to be special and got burned. Orlando gets Phil Jackson and it's a whole other outcome, this coach is garbage.

I think Phil is opposed to fouling to prevent shots @ end of games. Either it was JVG or Mark Jackson that mentioned this in the Denver series. Or Houston series can't remember which.

But that's Phil he has 9 rings and can afford to gamble.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Stan Van Gundy: "We felt that 11 seconds was too much to start shooting foul shots, and we just gave too much space on the 3. But in retrospect [maybe we should have fouled]..." No sht? And why the fck would you full court press on that play? My God. Almost every normal team with a 3pt lead fouls with that much time left and Stan wanted to be special and got burned. Orlando gets Phil Jackson and it's a whole other outcome, this coach is garbage.

it's funny how EVERY coach admits they should have fouled after the fact and yet they rarely make the call to do so in game time situations.

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: herkulease
Tough choice, Rafer's constantly smiling or Jameer's hanging mouth piece. I do want to smack both of them upside the head. Can I bonk both of their heads together?

Anthony Johnson may work better. He's as old as Fish!

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Stan Van Gundy: "We felt that 11 seconds was too much to start shooting foul shots, and we just gave too much space on the 3. But in retrospect [maybe we should have fouled]..." No sht? And why the fck would you full court press on that play? My God. Almost every normal team with a 3pt lead fouls with that much time left and Stan wanted to be special and got burned. Orlando gets Phil Jackson and it's a whole other outcome, this coach is garbage.

I think Phil is opposed to fouling to prevent shots @ end of games. Either it was JVG or Mark Jackson that mentioned this in the Denver series. Or Houston series can't remember which.

But that's Phil he has 9 rings and can afford to gamble.

Well they just interviewed Phil and he said that's why they took the ball in the backcourt to try and prevent from being fouled so they could get off the 3. Of course Van Gundy plays full court press and doesn't foul? WTF? Nelson had plenty of time to foul, but didn't because Van Gundy chose not to. Horrible call by a horrible coach, his reason was because he "thought his team wasn't shooting free throws well". WTF kind of logic is that? They get paid to make free throws, that's their job. At least it would have been in the power of his team to make or break the game, not his bad coaching. /shakes head.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: herkulease
I think the Lakers will win a close one today. I'm pretty sure Kobe been banging his head since Tuesday for missing FTs and TO @ the end.

Magic will pick up game 5 and Lakers win game 6 for the title.

I will kiss you if they win tonight.

:lips:

 

[mrSHEiK124]

W T F

I think the Kobe elbow might not have been worth a flagrant, but at least call a foul on that shit, the replay shows it was blatant. Kobe plays dirty in the heat of the game, it's all over YouTube.

And I'm not a Magic fan whining about the calls, the FT #s don't lie, but shit, we really threw that game away. Let Fish score TWO clutch three pointers because he's hanging out by himself on the 3pt line, and throw away every stop you manage to get because a. middle schoolers have better ball handling, b. come on Dwight, ONE FREE THROW, or c. Turkoglu took some ugly shots towards the end of OT.

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: herkulease
I think the Lakers will win a close one today. I'm pretty sure Kobe been banging his head since Tuesday for missing FTs and TO @ the end.

Magic will pick up game 5 and Lakers win game 6 for the title.

I will kiss you if they win tonight.

:lips:

:heart: hahaha.

But it didn't look that way the 1st half.