2009 NBA Finals

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jinduy

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hats off to boston with no KG.

magic also didn't have jameer nelson, but KG >> nelson of course.

 

SludgeFactory

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: KentState
Originally posted by: fustercluck
Crazy playoffs so far. Really unpredictable...and kinda violent!

Violent? This is like pre-school scuffles over a pacifier compared to even the 80s and early 90s. Back then, fighting was just a technical and pretty much expected in the playoffs.

Like this?

THAT SON OF A BITCH MCHALE! To clothline Rambus like that was just a dickhead move. You saw Kurt get up and try to beat some ass after wards. I always remember Kurt as being very mild tempered.

BTW Rambus and the whole 80's Lakers squad OWN.
Mild tempered? LOL, Rambis was the Lakers' hatchet man, Riley usually brought him in to drop the hammer on somebody.

That play was kind of like in the NHL when you go put a beatdown on the other team's biggest goon.
 

ProfJohn

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Go Magic!!!

Local (orlando) radio guys say that the Magic match up well with Cleveland.

Magic were 2-1 against Cleveland. So who knows
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: cheezy321
Boston is gone.

My finals prediction: Cavs vs Nuggets. Cavs in 7.

If it ended up being that match up, I think the Cavs would dispatch them pretty easily.
 
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Orlando played great offense tonight but their defense was the untold story. They shut Boston down and kept them down.

Now the Cavs have to figure out how to shut down Howard and generate enough offense against the Magic defense. This series isn't going to be a sweep for Cleveland.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Go Magic!!!

Local (orlando) radio guys say that the Magic match up well with Cleveland.

Magic were 2-1 against Cleveland. So who knows

They do. Orlando actually does have the right kind of personnel to run a similar defensive scheme against LeBron that Boston did last year. Whether they have the right defensive mindset - other than Howard - might be a different story.
 

OCGuy

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Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:
 

Chrono

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:

Why's Kobe a scum bag?
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:

Why's Kobe a scum bag?

because he tries so hard to present a clean cut image when he does scummy things (i.e. gets in cheap shots, cheats on his wife, etc.)

 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:

Why's Kobe a scum bag?

Phokus is my soulmate. He completes me.
 

Chrono

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:

Why's Kobe a scum bag?

because he tries so hard to present a clean cut image when he does scummy things (i.e. gets in cheap shots, cheats on his wife, etc.)



Michael Jordan also cheated on his wife throughout their WHOLE ENTIRE marriage.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:

Why's Kobe a scum bag?

Dirty player, yet whines incessantly
History of blaming teammates when things don't go well, rather than try to help them improve
Helped to orchestrate Shaq's departure from LA...
... and then a couple years later demanded to be traded
Cheats on his wife
When he came into the league, showed much disrespect to established stars
 

cheezy321

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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:

Why's Kobe a scum bag?

Dirty player, yet whines incessantly
History of blaming teammates when things don't go well, rather than try to help them improve
Helped to orchestrate Shaq's departure from LA...
... and then a couple years later demanded to be traded
Cheats on his wife
When he came into the league, showed much disrespect to established stars

I wouldnt go so far as saying Kobe is a scum bag. I dont like Kobe as much as the next guy, but the main reasons are because of his arrogance. Being arrogant does not mean you are a scumbag. He obviously has reasons to be so cocky. He is one of the best players to ever play basketball. These reasons are also why he will never be thought of as the best baller of all time (besides the crazies in LA)
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:

Why's Kobe a scum bag?

Dirty player, yet whines incessantly
History of blaming teammates when things don't go well, rather than try to help them improve
Helped to orchestrate Shaq's departure from LA...
... and then a couple years later demanded to be traded
Cheats on his wife
When he came into the league, showed much disrespect to established stars

Good writeup :thumbsup:

These are probably the same qualities that endear kobe to OCguy :thumbsdown:
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Phokus


Good writeup :thumbsup:

These are probably the same qualities that endear kobe to OCguy :thumbsdown:

Did he at least throw you a towel after?
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:

Why's Kobe a scum bag?

Dirty player, yet whines incessantly
History of blaming teammates when things don't go well, rather than try to help them improve
Helped to orchestrate Shaq's departure from LA...
... and then a couple years later demanded to be traded
Cheats on his wife
When he came into the league, showed much disrespect to established stars

I wouldnt go so far as saying Kobe is a scum bag. I dont like Kobe as much as the next guy, but the main reasons are because of his arrogance. Being arrogant does not mean you are a scumbag. He obviously has reasons to be so cocky. He is one of the best players to ever play basketball. These reasons are also why he will never be thought of as the best baller of all time (besides the crazies in LA)

When assessing a baller, I try to put the personal stuff aside, unless it intrudes on the team's performance.

The aspect of Kobe's behavior that disturbs me the most is the fact that he fragmented his team when Shaq was there. Of course, Shaq was guilty, too - IMO, Shaq is an egotistical buffoon. But Kobe was so bad that Phil Jackson stated he was "uncoachable". When Kobe wasn't getting the teammates he wanted, he demanded a trade. It seems like Kobe had little interest in drawing out his teammates abilities.

Kobe isn't anywhere near the discussion of "best baller of all time". He's not even the best SG in the history of his own team; that would be "The Logo", Jerry West.
 

Chrono

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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:

Why's Kobe a scum bag?

Dirty player, yet whines incessantly
History of blaming teammates when things don't go well, rather than try to help them improve
Helped to orchestrate Shaq's departure from LA...
... and then a couple years later demanded to be traded
Cheats on his wife
When he came into the league, showed much disrespect to established stars

I wouldnt go so far as saying Kobe is a scum bag. I dont like Kobe as much as the next guy, but the main reasons are because of his arrogance. Being arrogant does not mean you are a scumbag. He obviously has reasons to be so cocky. He is one of the best players to ever play basketball. These reasons are also why he will never be thought of as the best baller of all time (besides the crazies in LA)

When assessing a baller, I try to put the personal stuff aside, unless it intrudes on the team's performance.

The aspect of Kobe's behavior that disturbs me the most is the fact that he fragmented his team when Shaq was there. Of course, Shaq was guilty, too - IMO, Shaq is an egotistical buffoon. But Kobe was so bad that Phil Jackson stated he was "uncoachable". When Kobe wasn't getting the teammates he wanted, he demanded a trade. It seems like Kobe had little interest in drawing out his teammates abilities.

Kobe isn't anywhere near the discussion of "best baller of all time". He's not even the best SG in the history of his own team; that would be "The Logo", Jerry West.


I think you're talking about the old Kobe and not the emerging one. Did you see yesterday's game? He only scored 14 points, however, that didn't stop the chemistry of the bi-polar Lakers to maintain a lead throughout the entire game versus Houston yesterday. As any person gets older, they'll only become more mature and smarter hopefully in everything they do. Obviously if you had two stars in one team, there will be a big clash. So the whole Shaq versus Kobe thing was inevitable.
 

BZeto

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Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: cheezy321
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: Chrono
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Oh, and LOL @ Ron Artest. He can now go back into obscurity. :laugh:



Shane Battier is a class act and a great defender. I would be glad to have him on my home-team any day. :thumbsup:

Yeah, Shane Battier would certainly balance out that scum bag kobe pretty well :thumbsup:

Why's Kobe a scum bag?

Dirty player, yet whines incessantly
History of blaming teammates when things don't go well, rather than try to help them improve
Helped to orchestrate Shaq's departure from LA...
... and then a couple years later demanded to be traded
Cheats on his wife
When he came into the league, showed much disrespect to established stars

I wouldnt go so far as saying Kobe is a scum bag. I dont like Kobe as much as the next guy, but the main reasons are because of his arrogance. Being arrogant does not mean you are a scumbag. He obviously has reasons to be so cocky. He is one of the best players to ever play basketball. These reasons are also why he will never be thought of as the best baller of all time (besides the crazies in LA)

When assessing a baller, I try to put the personal stuff aside, unless it intrudes on the team's performance.

The aspect of Kobe's behavior that disturbs me the most is the fact that he fragmented his team when Shaq was there. Of course, Shaq was guilty, too - IMO, Shaq is an egotistical buffoon. But Kobe was so bad that Phil Jackson stated he was "uncoachable". When Kobe wasn't getting the teammates he wanted, he demanded a trade. It seems like Kobe had little interest in drawing out his teammates abilities.

Kobe isn't anywhere near the discussion of "best baller of all time". He's not even the best SG in the history of his own team; that would be "The Logo", Jerry West.


I think you're talking about the old Kobe and not the emerging one. Did you see yesterday's game? He only scored 14 points, however, that didn't stop the chemistry of the bi-polar Lakers to maintain a lead throughout the entire game versus Houston yesterday.

Laker's played good but we both know that the Rocket's offense was terrible that game.

 

dougp

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I'm pulling for a Nuggets vs. Magic finals - Billups and Alston sticking it to their own teams, would fuckin own - also not seeing Kobe and LeBroom in the Finals would be sweet justice too.
 
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