2009 NBA Finals

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Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: jjsole
Kobe was the difference. Clutch.

No, Denver's mistakes were the difference. Poor throw in on the last ball, missed free throws, and other mistakes all lead to letting the Lakers barely win it.

True, but Kobe was still clutch.

So was Chauncey.

George Karl wasn't.

Oh, and on the Lakers possession with ~ 30 sec left (after the Ariza steal of the inbounds), you have to foul. Kobe wound up driving to the rim and getting fouled with 10 sec left, IIRC. Everyone knew that Kobe would drive, because he's almost guaranteed a foul call and FT's. Denver needed to foul early to extend the game, allowing LA to shoot FT's while Denver shoots 3's. And also, maybe some other Laker winds up shooting FT's, and misses.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: jjsole
Kobe was the difference. Clutch.

No, Denver's mistakes were the difference. Poor throw in on the last ball, missed free throws, and other mistakes all lead to letting the Lakers barely win it.

True, but Kobe was still clutch.

So was Chauncey.

George Karl wasn't.

Oh, and on the Lakers possession with ~ 30 sec left (after the Ariza steal of the inbounds), you have to foul. Kobe wound up driving to the rim and getting fouled with 10 sec left, IIRC. Everyone knew that Kobe would drive, because he's almost guaranteed a foul call and FT's. Denver needed to foul early to extend the game, allowing LA to shoot FT's while Denver shoots 3's. And also, maybe some other Laker winds up shooting FT's, and misses.

And the refs missed Chanucy stepping on the line. Regardless, you cant count on the officials. He should have been wrapped up and fouled before he hit that clutch 3 pointer.


It has to be a little discouraging to the Nuggets. Melo was on fire, Billups was hitting shots...they were getting all of the foul calls...and they still lost.

 

Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: jjsole
Kobe was the difference. Clutch.

No, Denver's mistakes were the difference. Poor throw in on the last ball, missed free throws, and other mistakes all lead to letting the Lakers barely win it.

True, but Kobe was still clutch.

So was Chauncey.

George Karl wasn't.

Oh, and on the Lakers possession with ~ 30 sec left (after the Ariza steal of the inbounds), you have to foul. Kobe wound up driving to the rim and getting fouled with 10 sec left, IIRC. Everyone knew that Kobe would drive, because he's almost guaranteed a foul call and FT's. Denver needed to foul early to extend the game, allowing LA to shoot FT's while Denver shoots 3's. And also, maybe some other Laker winds up shooting FT's, and misses.

And the refs missed Chanucy stepping on the line. Regardless, you cant count on the officials. He should have been wrapped up and fouled before he hit that clutch 3 pointer.


It has to be a little discouraging to the Nuggets. Melo was on fire, Billups was hitting shots...they were getting all of the foul calls...and they still lost.

Yeah, I don't think the Nuggets are going to get a couple of "gimme" games like the Lakers gave Houston. I think this game showed the Lakers that they have to take Denver very seriously, and that's bad news for the Nuggets.

Denver got the foul calls because they went to the bucket aggressively. But if they miss FT's, it won't matter much.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: dbk
melo outweighs kobe by 25lbs...kobe was getting thrown around a little bit by melo...


p.s. kobe's wife is super hot

She's very pretty, but if I had my choice I would take Melo's Fiance over Kobe's wife any day of the week. Either way is still a win though

 

TheSlamma

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JR Smith is probably out now so that's the end of the Nugs scoring bench and basically the end of the Nugs chances to beat this Laker team.

Anthony Carter should have not been used there at the end, George Karl needs to figure something out there.

Kobe should have had a technical for the elbow to K-mart.

Billups should have been called out of bounds on that 3 pointer.

After it was all said and done that was a pretty damn good conference finals game.



Oh and Kobe's wife can't be that good since he did cheat on her in Colorado and he admitted it.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: dbk
melo outweighs kobe by 25lbs...kobe was getting thrown around a little bit by melo...


p.s. kobe's wife is super hot

She's very pretty, but if I had my choice I would take Melo's Fiance over Kobe's wife any day of the week. Either way is still a win though

So you like a black women w/ thick ass? Do you know who I see when I look at LaLa's pictures? Star Jones.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: dbk
melo outweighs kobe by 25lbs...kobe was getting thrown around a little bit by melo...


p.s. kobe's wife is super hot

She's very pretty, but if I had my choice I would take Melo's Fiance over Kobe's wife any day of the week. Either way is still a win though

So you like a black women w/ thick ass? Do you know who I see when I look at LaLa's pictures? Star Jones.

Lala isn't black, she's Dominican, she looks nothing like Star Jones, they don't even the same skin tone. It's similar but not close at all really. Not sure how you see a black person when you look at a Dominican. Even if they both were black, confusing them? I could have on 4 pairs of beer goggles and couldn't get them confused for one another. I guess to people who don't know any better, they really do "all look the same"


FYI - Lala doesn't have much ass at all, I mean she had more ass than your typical hollywood size 0 chick, but her ass is still small compared to most black women.
 

udonoogen

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what happened to smith? i heard something happened to his ankle and ESPN says it's going to be reevaluated. i only watched the last 5 minutes because i have finals today. did it look like he'll be out for the rest of the series?
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: udonoogen
what happened to smith? i heard something happened to his ankle and ESPN says it's going to be reevaluated. i only watched the last 5 minutes because i have finals today. did it look like he'll be out for the rest of the series?

It didn't look that bad to me, so I'd be surprised if Smith missed the next game. But you never know, once the adrenaline rush stops... things hurt more.
 

LordSnailz

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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: udonoogen
what happened to smith? i heard something happened to his ankle and ESPN says it's going to be reevaluated. i only watched the last 5 minutes because i have finals today. did it look like he'll be out for the rest of the series?

It didn't look that bad to me, so I'd be surprised if Smith missed the next game. But you never know, once the adrenaline rush stops... things hurt more.

Any slow mo links to what happened to Smith?
 

Baked

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By Marc Stein | ESPN.com

LOS ANGELES -- J.R. Smith says the knee that he tweaked in Tuesday night's frantic Game 1 finish is merely bruised and won't stop him from playing in Thursday night's Game 2.

That's the silver lining for the team that just squandered a golden opportunity.

Apart from Smith's insistence that he's fine -- and maybe the fact that Kobe Bryant is now just two technical fouls away from a one-game suspension -- there is lots for the Denver Nuggets to lament after they started the Western Conference finals with a 105-103 defeat to the Los Angeles Lakers at Staples Center.

"The next 48 hours," Nuggets coach George Karl conceded, "are going to be difficult."

That's because the visitors wasted Carmelo Anthony's 39 points and clanked 12 free throws, which pretty much nullified the fact that the Nuggets were sent to the line 11 more times than the hosts. The game was physical and close -- pretty much everything Denver could have wished for after nearly a week off since dismissing Dallas in Round 2 -- but the ending couldn't have been much more painful.

This one will sting even if Smith has indeed survived the hard crash he took in the scramble after he intentionally missed a free throw in the game's final sequence, since Denver came close to breaking through against the mighty Lakers after losing the teams' past 10 playoff meetings.

The Nuggets aren't the first team to let Bryant rumble for 18 points in the fourth quarter, but they also had to live with the sight of Trevor Ariza picking off Anthony Carter's looping inbounds pass to Chauncey Billups in the final minute and L.A. running the clock down to 10 seconds before Bryant was fouled with the Lakers only up two.

So ...

In spite of Anthony busting out against a team that held him in check in four regular-season meetings, Denver is behind in a series for the first time this postseason. Bryant scored 12 of his 40 points in the final 5:57 to erase the Nuggets' 93-87 lead and leave them tantalizingly close to clinching the Hollywood split of their dreams on the first try.

"We missed out on a great opportunity to steal this game," Billups said. "We played probably good enough.

"... I watched this team play against the Lakers last year [when Denver got swept in the first round]. I don't think they had one game this competitive. We pretty much controlled the game, most of the game, [but] that's why it's disappointing that we sit here and we lose this game."
 

oiprocs

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Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Oh and Kobe's wife can't be that good since he did cheat on her in Colorado and he admitted it.

Actually, his penis cheated. He just came along for the ride.

She is actually very good looking but she has had work done. Google her name and you'll see some before/after pics.
 

Miramonti

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Good to hear Smith only bruised his knee. Staying healthy is a key to advancing in the playoffs and one here would have been a major blow to the nuggets chances.
 

drum

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Why does this freakin game start at 8:30? I can't stay up until 12:00 to watch this game! uugh
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: jjsole
just missed it...what happened that caused the delay?

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Howard just collapsed the shot clock! :laugh:

I read that but how the heck do you collapse a shot clock on top of the backboard? I know he's got hops but...
 

S Freud

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The officiating in this game doesn't make any sense. Calling Howard for an offensive using lowering his shoulder, I've watched Lebron doing the same thing the last few times down the floor. Cav's defense is fouling the shit out of Howard underneath.
 
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