2009 NBA Finals

[Flipped Gazelle]

Oh man, I got called away late in the 3rd qtr, so I missed the rest of the game.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Lebron's leadership left a huge imprint on this game...he got cocky too early so everyone else got cocky too early as well.

I think Cavs will still take the series and that this game was actually good for them in the long run.

serves him/them right.
i hate cocky players.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jjsole
Lebron's leadership left a huge imprint on this game...he got cocky too early so everyone else got cocky too early as well.

I think Cavs will still take the series and that this game was actually good for them in the long run.

serves him/them right.
i hate cocky players.

So you hate every great player in the NBA?

 

[jinduy]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: LordSnailz
ouch .... how do you guard howard, if you front him they'll alley oop it to him, if you guard him from behind, he'll put the move on you and get an easier shot.

Boston's Kendrick Perkins did a good job on Howard. Perkin's thick thru the middle, so he can body Howard away from the bucket. He also has a nasty disposition.

cavs are doing the same thing that the magic are doing to lebron. letting the superstar score their points 1 on 1, but make them work for it. lebron got winded and howard wasn't at 100% stamina when getting some of those defensive fouls.

 

[spikespiegal]

One bullshit foul deserves another.

Get ready for an entire series of the same.

First couple of years Lebron was in the NBA I was all for the guy, but now he's simply getting too much protection from the white shirts. If David Stern wants to protect his mega star with a force-field of referees to discourage fouling him and risk of injury, he can at least be less obvious about it. All it's doing is making a lot of opposing teams bitter and turning Lebron into a hated player when it's really not his fault. The bad call on Howard was one of the most absurd things I've seen, but it's increasingly typical.

I swear when Lebron bricked those two consequtive free-throws it was on purpose because he realized it wasa crap call.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: spikespiegal

One bullshit foul deserves another.

Get ready for an entire series of the same.

First couple of years Lebron was in the NBA I was all for the guy, but now he's simply getting too much protection from the white shirts. If David Stern wants to protect his mega star with a force-field of referees to discourage fouling him and risk of injury, he can at least be less obvious about it. All it's doing is making a lot of opposing teams bitter and turning Lebron into a hated player when it's really not his fault. The bad call on Howard was one of the most absurd things I've seen, but it's increasingly typical.

I swear when Lebron bricked those two consequtive free-throws it was on purpose because he realized it wasa crap call.

This has been going on since Jordan.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

THE BALL DOESN'T LIE

Orlando in 6

 

[Turkish]

Hedo with 14 assists.

He had an XXL cheese pizza before the game.

Howard had 2 quarterpounders with XL fries/coke.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
THE BALL DOESN'T LIE

Orlando in 6

I hope orlando beats them in 4....

The Nuggets need to be punished for fucking with the WWE

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jjsole
Lebron's leadership left a huge imprint on this game...he got cocky too early so everyone else got cocky too early as well.

I think Cavs will still take the series and that this game was actually good for them in the long run.

serves him/them right.
i hate cocky players.

So you hate every great player in the NBA?

paul pierce? chauncey billups?

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: spikespiegal

One bullshit foul deserves another.

Get ready for an entire series of the same.

First couple of years Lebron was in the NBA I was all for the guy, but now he's simply getting too much protection from the white shirts. If David Stern wants to protect his mega star with a force-field of referees to discourage fouling him and risk of injury, he can at least be less obvious about it. All it's doing is making a lot of opposing teams bitter and turning Lebron into a hated player when it's really not his fault. The bad call on Howard was one of the most absurd things I've seen, but it's increasingly typical.

I swear when Lebron bricked those two consequtive free-throws it was on purpose because he realized it wasa crap call.

Word.

 

[actuarial]

Originally posted by: Barack Obama

paul pierce? chauncey billups?

PP referred to himself as the best basketball player in the world last summer!

Billups I can kind of agree with, but he's not nearly on par with the great superstars. He's the ultimate second fiddle though.

 

[drum]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
THE BALL DOESN'T LIE

Orlando in 6

I hope orlando beats them in 4....

The Nuggets need to be punished for fucking with the WWE

yeah, god forbid cleveland actually win something :roll:

 

[HopJokey]

Originally posted by: actuarial

Originally posted by: Barack Obama

paul pierce? chauncey billups?

PP referred to himself as the best basketball player in the world last summer!

Billups I can kind of agree with, but he's not nearly on par with the great superstars. He's the ultimate second fiddle though.

Finals MVP:

Billups - 1
Bryant - 0

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: spikespiegal

One bullshit foul deserves another.

Get ready for an entire series of the same.

First couple of years Lebron was in the NBA I was all for the guy, but now he's simply getting too much protection from the white shirts. If David Stern wants to protect his mega star with a force-field of referees to discourage fouling him and risk of injury, he can at least be less obvious about it. All it's doing is making a lot of opposing teams bitter and turning Lebron into a hated player when it's really not his fault. The bad call on Howard was one of the most absurd things I've seen, but it's increasingly typical.

I swear when Lebron bricked those two consequtive free-throws it was on purpose because he realized it wasa crap call.

Ive seen much worse games than the way the one was called last night. That Howard foul was a tough call, but it was a decision the ref had to make.

I am very very skeptical of the refs in the NBA. But last night I really didn't have a problem with a lot of the calls they were making ,

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Ive seen much worse games than the way the one was called last night. That Howard foul was a tough call, but it was a decision the ref had to make.

I am very very skeptical of the refs in the NBA. But last night I really didn't have a problem with a lot of the calls they were making ,

The ref didnt "have" to do anything. He could have kept his whistle in his pocket, which was the right call.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: Barack Obama

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jjsole
Lebron's leadership left a huge imprint on this game...he got cocky too early so everyone else got cocky too early as well.

I think Cavs will still take the series and that this game was actually good for them in the long run.

serves him/them right.
i hate cocky players.

So you hate every great player in the NBA?

paul pierce? chauncey billups?

Tim Duncan
David Robinson
Manu
Tony Parker
Yao Ming
Deron Williams
Kevin Durant
Steve Nash
Dirk Nowitzki
DWade
Dwight Howard - Getting close to the people below

I could go on and on - nobody has the cocky attitude that LBJ, Kobe, Chris Paul, Amare, Sha have.

 

[Miramonti]

I agree with the last foul on howard...his arm came down and hit James' forearm (not a lot but enough to make contact). Otherwise if he hadn't brought his arm down then I'd say it should have been a no call.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: dougp

Tim Duncan
David Robinson
Manu
Tony Parker
Yao Ming
Deron Williams
Kevin Durant
Steve Nash
Dirk Nowitzki
DWade
Dwight Howard - Getting close to the people below

I could go on and on - nobody has the cocky attitude that LBJ, Kobe, Chris Paul, Amare, Sha have.

He should have said "elite", not great. All of the players you listed are great, none of them other than the underrated Duncan, Robinson, Dwayne Wade, and soon to be Dwight Howard if he keeps improving, would ever be considered elite.

LBJ and Kobe are on a different level of stardom from even them.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: Barack Obama

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jjsole
Lebron's leadership left a huge imprint on this game...he got cocky too early so everyone else got cocky too early as well.

I think Cavs will still take the series and that this game was actually good for them in the long run.

serves him/them right.
i hate cocky players.

So you hate every great player in the NBA?

paul pierce? chauncey billups?

Tim Duncan
David Robinson
Manu
Tony Parker
Yao Ming
Deron Williams
Kevin Durant
Steve Nash
Dirk Nowitzki
DWade
Dwight Howard - Getting close to the people below

I could go on and on - nobody has the cocky attitude that LBJ, Kobe, Chris Paul, Amare, Sha have.

I guess you missed DWade jumping on the table, howling at the crowd?

Admittedly, LBJ's antics are getting very tiresome.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp

Tim Duncan
David Robinson
Manu
Tony Parker
Yao Ming
Deron Williams
Kevin Durant
Steve Nash
Dirk Nowitzki
DWade
Dwight Howard - Getting close to the people below

I could go on and on - nobody has the cocky attitude that LBJ, Kobe, Chris Paul, Amare, Sha have.

He should have said "elite", not great. All of the players you listed are great, none of them other than the underrated Duncan, Robinson, Dwayne Wade, and soon to be Dwight Howard if he keeps improving, would ever be considered elite.

LBJ and Kobe are on a different level of stardom from even them.

Very true. Both are household names even to non-basketball fans, and Kobe might be the world's best-known athlete.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: drum

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
THE BALL DOESN'T LIE

Orlando in 6

I hope orlando beats them in 4....

The Nuggets need to be punished for fucking with the WWE

yeah, god forbid cleveland actually win something :roll:

I feel bad for Cleveland - it's a good sports town, and no championships in something like 40 years.

BTW, the Nuggets' side of the story vis-a-vis the WWE, they tried to make a deal a couple of days ago, when the WWE suddenly bolted for the Staples Center. I'm not saying that absolves Denver management, but at least an attempt at rectifying the situation was made, and if the WWE could get a marketable "bad guy" out of this situation, then good for them.

 

[Miramonti]

Cocky and attention-whoring are two completely different issues. Attention whores play the game to look good.

Some examples of the worst attention-whores in the nba:

Kobe
Shaq (moreso in recent years)
Damon Jones (when he was relevant)
Amare
Stephen Jackson?
Vince Carter
Tmac?

James loves the attention and can talk some smack, but he's not an attention whore like these others who do it at the expense of the team's effectiveness and cohesion. At that level of play, you've got to get emotional, and just because some wear it more on their sleeves than others doesn't make them an attention-whore cancer.

Kobe obviously plays the game to win at the end, but I'm convinced he often plays the game to set himself up to look good at the end as well.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Cocky and attention-whoring are two completely different issues. Attention whores play the game to look good.

Some examples of the worst attention-whores in the nba:

Kobe
Shaq (moreso in recent years)
Damon Jones (when he was relevant)
Amare
Stephen Jackson?
Vince Carter
Tmac?

James loves the attention and can talk some smack, but he's not an attention whore like these others who do it at the expense of the team's effectiveness and cohesion. At that level of play, you've got to get emotional, and just because some wear it more on their sleeves than others doesn't make them an attention-whore cancer.

Kobe obviously plays the game to win at the end, but I'm convinced he often plays the game to set himself up to look good at the end as well.

Lately, though, LBJ has started pulling at his uniform, howling at the crowd, beating his chest, pointing into the crowd, that sort of thing. And it's not like he's looking at his teammates or the bench when he does this.

So, James goes through all these histrionics in the 1st half, then is damn tired and a little dehydrated in the 2nd half. Reminds me a little of the 1994 Orange Bowl, where Nebraska defeated Miami. In the 1st half, when Miami was making big play after big play, the Miami players were constantly screaming and jumping up and down. By the 4th qtr they were so exhausted they could barely muster a pass rush, and Nebraska came back to win the game.

 

[Baked]

I can't believe you didn't put KG on that list. Even when he's not playing, he's doing that smug face shit during the Chi/Bos series. I just wanna bitch slap him. And guess where Lebron learn that cocaine throwing shit from. KG.