2009 NBA Finals

[cheezy321]

horrible horrible call on Dwight Howard

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: sash1
oh puhlease, that was a clean block

Yea it was all ball. No way that was a foul.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

WTF, clean block.

 

[jinduy]

that's david stern issuing the hit on howard.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: jinduy
that's david stern issuing the hit on howard.

I kinda doubt that. The NBA loves Howard.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Howard, more clutch FT's down the stretch than LBJ.

 

[sash1]

woo! gg, magic up 2-1!

 

[KLin]

Seems to me the rest of the Cavs team needs to step up and help out Lebron a little more. He can't do it all by himself.

 

[zerocool84]

This series could have easily been 3-0

Magic are just playing slightly better than Cavs. They're not dominating them but little things here and there are killing the Cavs. A lot of turn-overs for both teams tonight.

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: jinduy
that's david stern issuing the hit on howard.

I kinda doubt that. The NBA loves Howard.

Not as much as they love Lebron.

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
This series could have easily been 3-0

Magic are just playing slightly better than Cavs. They're not dominating them but little things here and there are killing the Cavs. A lot of turn-overs for both teams tonight.

exactly. if not for lebron's shot in game 2 this series is as good as done.
i think as much as the cavs have been great, they had WAY too much success this season and playoffs and were never TRULY tested emotionally (unlike the on and off Lakers - who actually play better under pressure - or Orlando which really had a hard fought series against Celtics)

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: jinduy
that's david stern issuing the hit on howard.

I kinda doubt that. The NBA loves Howard.

Not as much as they love Lebron.

I agree, how are teams supposed to defend him when ANY contact is an auto-foul, might as well just let him drive to to hoop unabated as to not get your team in foul trouble..

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: jinduy
that's david stern issuing the hit on howard.

I kinda doubt that. The NBA loves Howard.

Not as much as they love Lebron.

I agree, but I'm sure the mentality isn't, "let's get Howard", it's "let's help LeBron".

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: EKKC

Originally posted by: zerocool84
This series could have easily been 3-0

Magic are just playing slightly better than Cavs. They're not dominating them but little things here and there are killing the Cavs. A lot of turn-overs for both teams tonight.

exactly. if not for lebron's shot in game 2 this series is as good as done.
i think as much as the cavs have been great, they had WAY too much success this season and playoffs and were never TRULY tested emotionally (unlike the on and off Lakers - who actually play better under pressure - or Orlando which really had a hard fought series against Celtics)

The counter to that is: if Lewis doesn't make a 3-ptr with 14 sec left in Game 1, then the Cavs are 2-1. I'm sure SVG is going to be reminding his team about how many open shots the Cavs missed tonight.

 

[jinduy]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: jinduy
that's david stern issuing the hit on howard.

I kinda doubt that. The NBA loves Howard.

Not as much as they love Lebron.

defensive player of the year has a clean block on the MVP's 3 attempt, and they give bron the benefit of the doubt. it's like as if the ref's have already decided to call it if dwight attempts to jump.

 

[OCGuy]

The officiating is actually worse in the ORL-CLE series, and that is saying something.


Good game Orlando, you could easily be 3-0.

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: cheezy321

Originally posted by: louierev07
kobe is the man

haha this is a great first post.

lol

 

[JJChicken]

HATE THE BIASED REFS..was it this bad when MJ was playing?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: jinduy
that's david stern issuing the hit on howard.

I kinda doubt that. The NBA loves Howard.

Not as much as they love Lebron.

I agree, how are teams supposed to defend him when ANY contact is an auto-foul, might as well just let him drive to to hoop unabated as to not get your team in foul trouble..

Exactly. The call on Howard on the blocked three attempt was bad enough, but all Lebron has to do is lower a shoulder, jump into someone, flail his arms and it's an automatic whistle. There were three undeserved fouls called on Howard in game 3 and two of them consisted of Lebron initiating the contact. Then there was a charge on Pietrus by Lebron that was called a blocking foul. On one play Lebron simply pushed a Magic player to the floor (at least they didn't call a foul on the Magic on that one). The refs need to put the kibosh on that over-the-top favoratism. Either call an offensive foul, like nearly any other player in the league would receive, or leave it as a no-call. Right now the NBA officials are making themselves look like blatantly biased idiots.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Barack Obama
HATE THE BIASED REFS..was it this bad when MJ was playing?

It's hard to say. It certainly seemed like MJ got every possible call, but maybe that perception was influenced by the fact that this was the 1st player "protected" to such an extent. Before MJ, there was the occasional wink: Magic could drive the lane, dish, collide with a defender, yet no foul call; Larry Bird could shuffle his feet to get behind the 3 pt line. But it definitely appeared that MJ could travel with impunity, get away with discontinuations (palming the ball), push-off, initiate contact and draw the defensive foul. Patrick Ewing constantly traveled. He would post up outside the painted area, spin with one dribble and then take about 4 steps for a hook shot.

Rules like charge/block were less defined, and there were still "force-out" violations then.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The call on Howard on the blocked three attempt was bad enough, but all Lebron has to do is lower a shoulder, jump into someone, flail his arms and it's an automatic whistle.

Dirk Nowitski reaps the benefit of this, also.

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
There were three undeserved fouls called on Howard in game 3 and two of them consisted of Lebron initiating the contact. Then there was a charge on Pietrus by Lebron that was called a blocking foul. On one play Lebron simply pushed a Magic player to the floor (at least they didn't call a foul on the Magic on that one). The refs need to put the kibosh on that over-the-top favoratism. Either call an offensive foul, like nearly any other player in the league would receive, or leave it as a no-call. Right now the NBA officials are making themselves look like blatantly biased idiots.

Shaq constantly got the benefit of calls where he initiated the contact. He would dip his shoulder and violently shed the defender, yet either no foul would be called, or a defensive foul. Dwight Howard gets away with it sometimes, and then other times he's called for an offensive foul. It must be very confusing to him.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

DP

 

[actuarial]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Shaq constantly got the benefit of calls where he initiated the contact. He would dip his shoulder and violently shed the defender, yet either no foul would be called, or a defensive foul. Dwight Howard gets away with it sometimes, and then other times he's called for an offensive foul. It must be very confusing to him.

Dwight also gets away with using his off arm to sweep away defenders, and gets leniency on a lot of goaltending calls.

I agree LeBron gets favorable calls, and the replay definitely showed it was a clean block on the 3 point attempt, but I sure didn't think it was in real time. The reason: he seemed to come sideways on LeBron's shooting side. Dwight just made a FANTASTIC play which most people probably didn't believe was made clean in real time. Sadly, the ref's can't review the call.

LeBron also gets the benefit on a lot of drives to the hoop, but the NBA is notorious for this, with basically everyone who drives with impunity. It's just LeBron does is so damn much because he gets around his man on the perimeter a lot and doesn't avoid the contact, because he's strong enough to still finish. He is still nowhere close to Wade in terms of getting calls when driving to the rim though.

Anytime a defender leaves his feet, or contacts the offensive player when it's not square on and they're at a dead stop, it's a blocking call. It's just doesn't seem as bad with others because they don't do it nearly as much as Bron, and don't have the ability to force that kind of situation that frequently. Go check out how many times Mags gets to the line each game. Why does it happen? The league probably doesn't even like Mags, but he forces the officials hand time and time again, and the NBA is by far the hardest sport to officiate!

 

[mrSHEiK124]

That block was all ball. LBJ got shut down. I'm still saying Magic in 6

 

[jinduy]

even ESPN is criticizing the refs "8 on 5"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...eature=player_embedded