2010-2011 TV Death Watch

[BoomerD]

I'm not surprised that L&O L.A. was cancelled. Even though I watched it, I do NOT like Alfred Molina, not in this part, nor in any role I've ever seen him in, (Doc Oc anyone?) and the show just never seemed to "gel."

 

[Ns1]

ickup news flashes are flying fast and furious today, so some have fallen through the cracks as I try to stay afloat. Here are some notable renewal/cancellations: As expected, Body of Proof became the second ABC freshman series after Happy Endings to make the cut for a second season. Better With You and Mr. Sunshine are canceled. Also dead is NBC's freshman comedy Outsourced.

 

[Ns1]

UPDATE: It's official, there will be no sixth season of ABC's family drama Brothers and Sisters. And V won't return for a third season either. ABC just made the calls.

 

[lupi]

Friday the 13th turned out to be doomsday for Brothers & Sisters and V: ABC has axed both shows. The Alphabet net also pulled the plug on rookie series No Ordinary Family, Off the Map, Better With You, Detroit 187 and Mr. Sunshine.

Also, the Chuck renewal now official.

 

[lupi]

I'm not surprised that L&O L.A. was cancelled. Even though I watched it, I do NOT like Alfred Molina, not in this part, nor in any role I've ever seen him in, (Doc Oc anyone?) and the show just never seemed to "gel."

I liked the cops, not really the lawyers and never started watching again when they finally brought it back out.

 

[JohnnyGage]

The only one of those I watched was "Chicago Code," and as mentioned in the other thread, it never did get "good," but rather, stayed mediocre. I tried to watch "Human Target" on its opening night...hated it, never watched again. "Lie to Me" was ok for the first season or so, but Tim Roth was just too "over the top" for me. IMO, that show jumped the shark a long time ago.

Lie to Me had so much promise, and then it was the hunched back and over acting of Tim Roth that had me change the channel after the first episode.He was trying to catch everyone in a lie including the barista when he ordered coffee. Terrible.

 

[dr150]

And V won't return for a third season either. ABC just made the calls.

Ya....I made that call after watching the first episode. :thumbsdown:

 

[lupi]

just checked a show listing and it looks like other than a couple shows on CW and most of the CBS list, the other networks are already done with their existing stuff. Guess CBS is waiting till their media day to give the details.

 

[Ns1]

Dead Pilots:

ABC: DRAMAS Identity, Hallelujah, Grace, Georgetown, Poe, Partners. COMEDIES: My Freakin' Family, Other People's Kids, Bad Mom, Lost & Found.

NBC: DRAMAS Wonder Woman, Reconstruction, A Mann's World, Metro, 17the Precinct; COMEDIES: Brave New World, I Hate That I Love You, Untitled Kari Lizer, Lovelives, My Life As An Experiment, Family Practice (aka Dan Goor)

 

[BrokenVisage]

WTF Mr. Sunshine was actually kinda good, come on ABC!

 

[GagHalfrunt]

WTF Mr. Sunshine was actually kinda good, come on ABC!

Do you understand the concept of ratings? What is the brain damage on ATOT that keeps the kiddies whining at the networks when the lack of viewers is what really kills shows. It's not rocket science. ABC doesn't give one tenth of a shit about how good the show may or may not be, they care if people are watching. People were not watching because it SUCKED. Great opening week based on Matthew Perry's name, then the ratings fell off a cliff because everyone saw how bad it was.

BTW, Perry is back in rehab again, I think he goes in and out the same revolving door that Lindsey Lohan uses.

 

[phoenix79]

Do you understand the concept of ratings? What is the brain damage on ATOT that keeps the kiddies whining at the networks when the lack of viewers is what really kills shows. It's not rocket science. ABC doesn't give one tenth of a shit about how good the show may or may not be, they care if people are watching. People were not watching because it SUCKED. Great opening week based on Matthew Perry's name, then the ratings fell off a cliff because everyone saw how bad it was.

BTW, Perry is back in rehab again, I think he goes in and out the same revolving door that Lindsey Lohan uses.

The problem is that the ratings system as it currently stands doesn't work anymore. Not when so many people watch TV over the internet through legitimate and not-quite-so-legitimate ways. Shows like Chuck, Stargate: Universe(I know, ATOT hates it) and many others I would imagine would have a MUCH higher viewership if this were followed. Chuck is put up against House, not many shows will do well in that timeslot. How many people will watch it on Hulu, Netflix, NBC.com, or just torrent it? It's the same way with many other shows. The whole ratings system needs an overhaul IMHO, but since I'm a nobody, I don't count.

 

[CallMeJoe]

The problem is that the ratings system as it currently stands doesn't work anymore. Not when so many people watch TV over the internet through legitimate and not-quite-so-legitimate ways...

I get your point, but the networks care about ratings that represent confirmed viewers delivered to advertisers. Viewers that don't generate revenue don't help.

 

[Imp]

UPDATE: It's official, there will be no sixth season of ABC's family drama Brothers and Sisters. And V won't return for a third season either. ABC just made the calls.

V never did it for me. It had the hooker from Firefly and Juliette from Lost, and I still didn;t care.

The Event I gave a few episodes, and same thing.

Wonder how "Thr Finder" will fair. That Bones crossover episide sucked...

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Boo outsourced

 

[Wordplay]

Boo outsourced

I loved Outsourced. Gupta is the shit along with Pinky

 

[BoomerD]

IMO, Outsourced sucked from the start. I tried a couple of episodes...hated it.

I'm sad to see Detroit 187 go. It wasn't TOO bad...and a lot like NYPD Blue back in the day. It needed some work, but it had promise.

 

[Maligx]

Seems like the only shows worth investing time into anymore are on hbo/showtime, otherwise it's canceled after a season. I don't even bother to get excited for new shows on the networks. Well the exception so far is fringe, love that show, apparently so do plenty of other people.

 

[lupi]

with only a couple days till cbs's official release, starting to get the leaks:

my dad says, defenders, and mad love have all taken the bullet.


for the interesting twist: fox is trying breaking in at a different time slot for it's final show and may reverse the cancellation order if this new comedy block it's making works.


also chucks final run looks to be a friday night affair.

 

[lupi]

also with fey being preggers, 30 rock won't start till around the christmas break and will then run without any breaks to fit all the epsiodes in.

 

[TwiceOver]

with only a couple days till cbs's official release, starting to get the leaks:

my dad says, defenders, and mad love have all taken the bullet.


for the interesting twist: fox is trying breaking in at a different time slot for it's final show and may reverse the cancellation order if this new comedy block it's making works.


also chucks final run looks to be a friday night affair.

The Defenders canned? Other than being a little repetitive it was actually a fun watch.

Sigh, If it ain't "reality" it ain't makin' it.

 

[lupi]

with ratings across to board going to shit with the traditional accounting method, unless something new becomes stellar it's about as likely to be canned for something else to get that shot.

 

[Ns1]

I get your point, but the networks care about ratings that represent confirmed viewers delivered to advertisers. Viewers that don't generate revenue don't help.

This. As an advertiser I dont give a fuck that 2 million people downloaded House last week.

 

[Cogman]

with ratings across to board going to shit with the traditional accounting method, unless something new becomes stellar it's about as likely to be canned for something else to get that shot.

The really need to start using some stats from things like Hulu. Exact viewer statistics from a larger group of people than they can feasibly get from television ratings. It just seams like a much better method of determining what is getting viewership.

The biggest problem with this approach is the fact that it is severally under-represented by the old and perhaps over represented by the technical (though, not really). But with that being the main drawback, I really don't see the harm.

 

[lupi]

The really need to start using some stats from things like Hulu. Exact viewer statistics from a larger group of people than they can feasibly get from television ratings. It just seams like a much better method of determining what is getting viewership.

The biggest problem with this approach is the fact that it is severally under-represented by the old and perhaps over represented by the technical (though, not really). But with that being the main drawback, I really don't see the harm.

but at the same time the advertisers don't give a shit about those non-young viewers which is why you see several programs getting axed that have decent strong overall numbers but weak in the recently prepubescent.