2011 F1 Season thread

[The Boston Dangler]

ha my recording of qually stopped during the red flag. what a hell of a crash! years ago there would have been nothing left of him or the car.

 

[punjabiplaya]

ha my recording of qually stopped during the red flag. what a hell of a crash! years ago there would have been nothing left of him or the car.

http://jalopnik.com/5806544/watch-rosbergs-and-perezs-monaco-grand-prix-crashes-side+by+side

 

[satyajitmenon]

They both appear to bottom out?

 

[Arcadio]

What a great race...

 

[busydude]

What a great race...

Entertaining race.. not much overtaking at all. Glad that Petrov is not seriously injured, and I think Hamilton is going to be given a penalty.

 

[LTC8K6]

Damn shame, the end was going to be a hell of a battle. Too bad they were allowed to work on the cars.

 

[busydude]

Damn shame, the end was going to be a hell of a battle. Too bad they were allowed to work on the cars.

Yeah, I did not understand the point of working on the cars. If you can get new tires and bodywork on.. what is the point?

 

[RockinZ28]

ha my recording of qually stopped during the red flag. what a hell of a crash! years ago there would have been nothing left of him or the car.

Gah, mine stopped during the red flag in the race. Will have to add an extra 30 minutes from now on.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

wow, that finish left me with more questions than answers. i've never heard of f1 restarting a race after such a late red flag. and to let them work on the cars just blows my mind!

lewis "is it because i'm black?" hamilton is an enormous piece of crap, and should have the hammer come down on him for "bringing the sport into disrepute".

 

[Skurge]

wow, that finish left me with more questions than answers. i've never heard of f1 restarting a race after such a late red flag. and to let them work on the cars just blows my mind!

lewis "is it because i'm black?" hamilton is an enormous piece of crap, and should have the hammer come down on him for "bringing the sport into disrepute".

Yes, Lewis should have gotten a penalty for cutting the track and for the massa incident, but You are full of crap if you tell me the steward are fair or do their job well. I mean In every single race vettel does about 5 moves to block or push drivers at the start. He has been doing it since last year and they do nothing about it. There are a bunch more incidents I could point out. The slow penalty for lewis in Valencia last year, Vettel crashing into Sutil at silverstone last year. Vettel going off the track to pass button in Aus this year, button being given a penalty for doing the same thing earlier in the race.

I agree, the race thing was completely stupid to say, but I would rather have drivers speak their mind then be the robots that they are now. Senna was always saying stuff like that about the FIA and was hailed as a great for that, whats wrong with doing it now?

 

[The Boston Dangler]

no, stewards have rarely done their job well. historically, very rarely. the fia's position is to let them fight at the start so blocking rules are relaxed, but anything more than minor contact is still frowned upon.

 

[LTC8K6]

They gave Hamilton a token penalty, that amounted to nothing. 20 seconds, when he was the last guy on the lead lap.

 

[foghorn67]

I agree with the thought of driver's being PR bots these days. You should have the right to say stupid crap.

Oh, and the whole working on the car during the red flag....wtf?

 

[Skurge]

I agree with the thought of driver's being PR bots these days. You should have the right to say stupid crap.

Oh, and the whole working on the car during the red flag....wtf?

You have an awesome sig btw.

 

[JulesMaximus]

wow, that finish left me with more questions than answers. i've never heard of f1 restarting a race after such a late red flag. and to let them work on the cars just blows my mind!

lewis "is it because i'm black?" hamilton is an enormous piece of crap, and should have the hammer come down on him for "bringing the sport into disrepute".

I was stunned by that as well. I would have loved to see Vettel restart on his old tires. Race strategy was thrown out the window at that point...they might as well have ended the race when they threw the red flag because it was just a 5 lap parade at that point.

Not sure what you're on about with the Hamilton comments though.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Button was robbed and so were the fans. That three way fight before the red was just about to go legendary. Then it was pissed on by new tyres all round. BOO!

 

[LTC8K6]

Yes Red Bull made an error, and the rules let them get away with it.

Ferrari didn't really make an error, imo, because the tire strategy is what got them into a podium position in the first place, so they did the right thing.

But Red Bull screwed up with their tire strategy and should have paid for it.

I don't pull for McLaren at all, but they were robbed of the chance to win the race, which they had set up beautifully.

 

[satyajitmenon]

Yeah. Basically, Red Bull (Vettel specifically) got lucky.

Not sure what Lewis is bitching about. There were plenty of overtakes in the race without incident. If he's expecting people to just lay down and die when he makes an overtake move, he's dreaming.

 

[Skurge]

Yeah. Basically, Red Bull (Vettel specifically) got lucky.

Not sure what Lewis is bitching about. There were plenty of overtakes in the race without incident. If he's expecting people to just lay down and die when he makes an overtake move, he's dreaming.

I think he expects drivers to react like shumi did when he passed him or how he reacted when shumi passed him at the same spot as mass. Massa was having he's own accident with Webber before Lewis got there.

When the top guys are fighting (Vettel, webber, button, alonso and Lewis) they don't do dumb shit like that, they don't make any contact (Well Vettel doesn't anymore) They give each other room. Those guys in the midfield (With the exception of Cowboyashi) Don't seem to know when to give a place up.

The Maldonado move was wrong, he deserved to be punished for that.

 

[Imported]

I can't recall.. but did they ever show Vettel's old tires? I wonder if they would have held up for the last 6 or so laps if there wasn't a red..

 

[LTC8K6]

Massa was having he's own accident with Webber

I thought Lewis punted Massa into Webber.

Lewis had a lot of luck in any case. Under the old rules, he goes back to where he was the lap before. He only got 6th because of that last crash.

 

[LTC8K6]

I can't recall.. but did they ever show Vettel's old tires? I wonder if they would have held up for the last 6 or so laps if there wasn't a red..

Don't think it would have mattered. Alonso and Button would have both gotten by, or there'd have been a crash. They were both considerably faster than Vettel, with Button also faster than Alonso.

Alonso did a great job with his tires to keep them decent, and McLaren had a great strategy to win with Button.

Would Vettel's tires have failed? I don't think so. 4th place was way back and Vettel could have taken it very easy and remained third.

I don't think he could have held off Alonso and Button.

Well, that's the way the cookie crumbles...

 

[Skurge]

I thought Lewis punted Massa into Webber.

Lewis had a lot of luck in any case. Under the old rules, he goes back to where he was the lap before. He only got 6th because of that last crash.

I could be remembering wrong, but mass went on the inside of Webber and touched him with he's front wing.

 

[punjabiplaya]

Looks like Bahrain is back in and India has been moved to the finale

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/6/12132.html

The 2011 Formula 1 Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix will take place on October 30, the FIA’s World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) announced on Friday. The 2011 Formula 1 Grand Prix of India, which had been scheduled for that date, will now become the season finale combined with the FIA Annual General Assembly and Prize-Giving Gala.

Also, see you guys in Austin on June 17, 2012

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/6/12133.html

2012 FIA Formula One World Championship calendar:
11/03 Bahrain
18/03 Australia
01/04 Malaysia
08/04 China
22/04 Korea
06/05 Turkey *
20/05 Spain
27/05 Monaco
10/06 Canada
17/06 United States
01/07 Valencia, Spain
15/07 Great Britain
29/07 Germany
05/08 Hungary
02/09 Belgium
09/09 Italy
30/09 Singapore
14/10 Japan
28/10 India
11/11 Abu Dhabi
25/11 Brazil
* Subject to confirmation

 

[Imported]

Isn't the track supposed to be completed in June? Damn thats cutting it close.