The MS3 weighs 400lbs more (-), is a hatch (-), gets much worse gas mileage (-), costs $2,000 more (SIs are going for just under $20k, MS3 looks closer to $22k), and is a Mazda (-).
The MS3 weighs 400lbs more (-), is a hatch (-), gets much worse gas mileage (-), costs $2,000 more (SIs are going for just under $20k, MS3 looks closer to $22k), and is a Mazda (-).Look at the MS3 compared against the Civic Si. Similar price, MS3 is a hatch (+), both are FWD, and the MS3 has more HP and tons more torque. The Si is WAY overpriced for what it delivers today. It should be <20k for it to really be a bargain IMHO.
The MS3 weighs 400lbs more (-), is a hatch (-), gets much worse gas mileage (-), costs $2,000 more (SIs are going for just under $20k, MS3 looks closer to $22k), and is a Mazda (-).
Ok, and it's a POS toyota in a completely different segment. What is your point?Awesome. The Si still gets smoked by a V6 Camry....I would pay to see that!
I think the '12 Civic is the best looking one yet. Nothing at all like a Camry. Get your eyes checked if you think so...
Have you honestly never seen a Camry??
Have you honestly never seen a Mercedes E-Class (Camry copied this) or an Accord Coupe (The new Civic took this)?
Have you honestly never seen a Crown Victoria? Mercedes copied this.
Go troll somewhere else.
The MS3 weighs 400lbs more (-), is a hatch (-), gets much worse gas mileage (-), costs $2,000 more (SIs are going for just under $20k, MS3 looks closer to $22k), and is a Mazda (-).
ZOMG they're both silver and they both have taillights with clear and red parts!!!!1111oneHave you honestly never seen a Camry??
If a Civic SI gets bad gas mileage, what moron would buy one? You could buy a Mustang V6 for the same price and get 300hp and RWD.
I would much rather have a Civic SI than a shitty wannabe pony car.
The Si is a shitty wannabe sports car...
I wouldn't call it an econobox. They get terrible gas mileage, require premium fuel, the insurance is absolutely insane, and the price of the car is up there with the Accord. It's a fun car to drive but it's not economical in any way.lol its not even that, it's just an econobox that makes lots of vroom sounds, and somehow manages to put a smile on your face despite not really going anywhere that fast
I wouldn't call it an econobox. They get terrible gas mileage, require premium fuel, the insurance is absolutely insane, and the price of the car is up there with the Accord. It's a fun car to drive but it's not economical in any way.
It's about time they put the Accord engine in the Si. Why the god damn hell would anyone want a car that needs premium gasoline? That puts the fuel cost in the same category as owning a Ford F150 or a pedovan.
TLDR version: buy the Civic not-Si if you want economy, buy the 4 cylinder Accord if you want it to go faster.
I worded that badly. I didn't mean to say the I4 Accord is faster than the Si. I meant that if you want it go to faster than the 1.8L civic, you should get the Accord 2.4L. Some quick googling says the 0-60 for a 1.8L civic is 9 seconds while the 2.4L Accord is 8 seconds.SI isn't that bad, the 2011 does 60 in ~6.5 seconds and with more power the 2012 should be a bit faster at around 6.0.
I4 Accord does it in ~9, V6 auto Accord in ~6.9, V6 manual Accord coupe in ~5.9.
Gotcha.I worded that badly. I didn't mean to say the I4 Accord is faster than the Si. I meant that if you want it go to faster than the 1.8L civic, you should get the Accord 2.4L. Some quick googling says the 0-60 for a 1.8L civic is 9 seconds while the 2.4L Accord is 8 seconds.
I worded that badly. I didn't mean to say the I4 Accord is faster than the Si. I meant that if you want it go to faster than the 1.8L civic, you should get the Accord 2.4L. Some quick googling says the 0-60 for a 1.8L civic is 9 seconds while the 2.4L Accord is 8 seconds.
but the accord is a sloppy boat while the Si handles quite nicely
I guess I can respect that. The Si also has a limited slip differential which may or may not be useful in winter