2013-14 NBA Season

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Miramonti

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He's 21 years old, so I'm not sure the maturity is there. But it's a difficult situation, especially when Dion Waiters accuses you and Tristain Thompson of playing "buddy ball." In other words, I don't blame Irving for not giving a shit

I'd take dion waters at his salary than irving at a max deal, risking the franchise on him. That said, maybe irving would do a lot better with more structure on offense, since we know brown has no fvcking clue how to run an offense.
 
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I'd take dion waters at his salary than irving at a max deal, risking the franchise on him. That said, maybe irving would do a lot better with more structure on offense, since we know brown has no fvcking clue how to run an offense.

But Kyrie doesnt make the max, so what's your point? And I'd strill rather have Kyrie anyways
 

darkewaffle

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Bummer Dragic didn't get the AllStar nod, he's been a huge part of Phoenix's turnaround this season and has had some really impressive outings picking up the slack left by Bledsoe's injury. Suns looked good getting up big on the Pacer's and then holding them off as well.
 

dbk

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At the end of the 3rd qtr., the Clippers are up 100 to 51 over the 76ers..

WTF
 

mikegg

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I'd take dion waters at his salary than irving at a max deal, risking the franchise on him. That said, maybe irving would do a lot better with more structure on offense, since we know brown has no fvcking clue how to run an offense.

And that's why you're sitting at home and not an NBA GM. Kyrie Irving is a special player. Dion Waiters is an undersized 2 guard with below average stats.

When Kyrie starts makingt he max, it'll be starting at only $14 million/year. This isn't the monster $20 million starting that players used to get in the old CBA. It's a bargain even when Kyrie makes the max.

It's not Kyrie Irving's fault for having to play with unmotivated, non-cohesive teammates. His GM drafted Tristan Thompson and undersized 4 and then drafted Waiters, an undersized and selfish players. Then they got Mike Brown as the coach. No body has ever respected Mike Brown.
 

dbk

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Dat Heat Warriors gsme from few days ago was sweeeeet.. Finals preview? Sike
 

Miramonti

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Dat Heat Warriors gsme from few days ago was sweeeeet.. Finals preview? Sike

I love how games now are taking on a playoff flare.

Bulls vs. Raptors last night was pretty awesome. A helluva battle between two somewhat talented but incomplete teams that fight hard to the end. Jimmy Butler's block on DeRozan for the game winning shot was straight out of Rucker park.
 
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And tonight we get another Heat/OKC showdown, with Westbrook making his return to boot. Should be a good one. My money's on the Thunder, but I feel like LeBron may go into total "Fuck You" mode at some point trying to show up Durant.
 

darkewaffle

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I'm kind of surprised at how readily the 76ers parted ways with Turner, not that the trade was bad but I guess I don't see a Turner as a bad fit to a rebuilding team given his age and reasonably good production. I suppose keeping him around long enough for the team to get back on it's feet though would probably be kind of pricey however.
 

Miramonti

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An fascinating article with excerpts from the Sloan conference:

Fifty NBA notes, quotes and anecdotes from the 2014 Sloan conference

1. The most newsworthy revelation to come out of the 2014 Sloan conference had nothing to do with analytics. Instead, it was a bit of candor. Say what you want about former Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo (yes, he traded for Rudy Gay and signed Landry Fields. OK, better yet, don’t say what you want), but the two-time NBA Executive of the Year was willing to go on the record and admit something that no other modern GM in any sport has yet to confess.

“I tried to tank a couple of years ago,” Colangelo said during Friday’s basketball analytics panel. “And I didn’t come out and say, ‘Coach you have to lose games.’ I want him to establish a winning tradition and culture, but I wanted him to do it in the framework of playing and developing young players.”

Colangelo said the team’s win in the regular-season finale cost them “a coin-flip for Damian Lillard,” which could have altered Toronto’s history (and Colangelo’s, who was fired in 2013). Instead, they were out-tanked that night by the Nets, who scored a sheepish 67 points.

And to Colangelo’s credit, he realized that tanking in the NBA has to go.

“There really is some ugly basketball being played,” he said.

2. Feeling liberated by Colangelo’s candor, Stan Van Gundy went for the kill against the 76ers: “If you’re putting that roster on the floor, you’re doing everything you can to lose. It’s embarrassing.” Also in attendance at Sloan, 76ers general manager Sam Hinkie!

9. Van Gundy floated a theory that was so intriguing it terrified me. When discussing why we’ve seen so many knee injuries in recent years to some of the NBA’s most athletic players (Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, Blake Griffin), SVG theorized, “It’s all the pick-and-roll. A lot of the guys who are getting hurt are the guys who are attacking.” With players bigger, faster, stronger and more athletic than ever, Van Gundy said players might be putting too much of a “load” on their knees to handle when they jump to change direction.

“Derrick Rose might be too explosive for his own good,” he said, putting a frown on everyone within earshot.
 

manly

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I can't be bothered to tune in yet, but LeBron and Al Jefferson are putting on a scoring show.
 

DesiPower

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wow last post more than 3 weeks ago... man, no wonder NBA is loosing popularity. They need better teams and players, except for the top few most of the teams suck pretty bad this year...

Came in to root for Spurs once again, they are on 15 game winning streak, no reason to loose the next 2 either, both under 500. the one after that is with Pacers, that might be a practice game for the finals! go spurs go.
 

DesiPower

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Lebaby needs a hug

Referee tripping him was so precious... it made my day

Then baby gets a nose bleed

Then he gets a flagrant and cries his hearts out

And to top it all off, gets dunked on his face !!!! This has be the best game of the season :biggrin:

LeBron understandably was upset with the call, noting to reporters after the game that he'd have to be a "kung-fu master" to be able to jump in the air, elbow someone intentionally in the face and finish the play.
 

darkewaffle

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wow last post more than 3 weeks ago... man, no wonder NBA is loosing popularity.

It's pretty much bigger than ever. Topic merely unsuited to audience here.

Really interested to see how the last few playoff spots in the West shake out. I'm pulling for Phoenix and Dallas both getting in.
 

DesiPower

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Phoenix I think will stay in, they are picking up some steam. Dallas, idk, specially is you think who will go out then? Memphis? GSW? I don't think so... maybe they can beat Phoenix, anywho, only one of them will make it.

Its funny how 2 under 500s cruise into playoff from the east and 2 of west's under 500s struggling... I don't think is fair...
 
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The MVP is unquestionably Durant, and it's not really all that close. LeBron had a great February, averaging 30.8, 8.1 and 6.7... while Durant was busy averaging 33.4, 7.7 and 7.2 in the same span. And that's been Durant's weakest month of the last 3, where he's averaging over 35 points. By any advanced statistical metric, Durant's been the better player this season. That, coupled with voter fatigue for LeBron (4 MVPs in 5 years) means that barring a series of monster performances from LeBron and a complete collapse from Durant, KD is winning the MVP trophy this year.
 

Miramonti

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wow last post more than 3 weeks ago... man, no wonder NBA is loosing popularity. They need better teams and players, except for the top few most of the teams suck pretty bad this year...

Came in to root for Spurs once again, they are on 15 game winning streak, no reason to loose the next 2 either, both under 500. the one after that is with Pacers, that might be a practice game for the finals! go spurs go.

Will it be another disappointing ending for the Spurs? I've got to believe they are better than last year and that they've got to be the favorites to play in the finals. And I don't see their eastern conference contenders as strong as Miami was playing last year either...just sayin'
 

Miramonti

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The MVP is unquestionably Durant, and it's not really all that close. LeBron had a great February, averaging 30.8, 8.1 and 6.7... while Durant was busy averaging 33.4, 7.7 and 7.2 in the same span. And that's been Durant's weakest month of the last 3, where he's averaging over 35 points. By any advanced statistical metric, Durant's been the better player this season. That, coupled with voter fatigue for LeBron (4 MVPs in 5 years) means that barring a series of monster performances from LeBron and a complete collapse from Durant, KD is winning the MVP trophy this year.

It's unbelievable what Durant is doing with that skinny frame of his. He's so much more agile and impactful than his first few years.
 

HendrixFan

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I think the widespread tanking this year is undercutting what would otherwise be a more competitive and fun season. You also have the best teams strategically resting players, as the Spurs have done, leaving some of the big games feeling small.

There aren't any new flashy teams this year either, we are seeing the same teams doing the same things, fighting for the same positions. The Warriors have been disappointing in what was supposed to be the year they moved into the elite pack. The only part of this regular season that differs greatly from last year is the ascension of Anthony Davis.
 

dougp

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I think the widespread tanking this year is undercutting what would otherwise be a more competitive and fun season. You also have the best teams strategically resting players, as the Spurs have done, leaving some of the big games feeling small.

There aren't any new flashy teams this year either, we are seeing the same teams doing the same things, fighting for the same positions. The Warriors have been disappointing in what was supposed to be the year they moved into the elite pack. The only part of this regular season that differs greatly from last year is the ascension of Anthony Davis.



I'll take my healthy team, that's in first place in the league, over "big" games - which, given the Spurs and their best bench in the league, still put on hell-a-good games.

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