2013-14 NBA Season

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dougp

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caught that game. dwight still has no post game. his last turnover had me rofl'ing. and linsanity returns. looks like mchale was holding him back the whole time. worst coach in the league by a mile. he benched anderson most of last year as well.

Wow, seriously? Lin wasn't being held back by McHale, he was being held back by Harden. Anderson? He was cut by the Spurs before being picked up by the Rockets, because he's too damn streaky. This will be his one good game for a month or two - he only played that much because MCW was out. I don't think McHale is a great coach, but he's far from the worst coach in the league. Ever heard of Isiah Thomas?
 

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Wow, seriously? Lin wasn't being held back by McHale, he was being held back by Harden. Anderson? He was cut by the Spurs before being picked up by the Rockets, because he's too damn streaky. This will be his one good game for a month or two - he only played that much because MCW was out. I don't think McHale is a great coach, but he's far from the worst coach in the league. Ever heard of Isiah Thomas?

i've never seen mchale draw up a decent play, last night included. none of his players listen to him either. there's a clip floating around of harden completely ignoring his directions and doing his own thing late in the 4th a few games ago, and he had lin stand in a corner spotting up all of last year. makes me go wtf? that and he's using a 7 man rotation to start the year.
 

dougp

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i've never seen mchale draw up a decent play, last night included. none of his players listen to him either. there's a clip floating around of harden completely ignoring his directions and doing his own thing late in the 4th a few games ago, and he had lin stand in a corner spotting up all of last year. makes me go wtf? that and he's using a 7 man rotation to start the year.

LMAO - basically there are no plays for the Rockets, they'll get someone into an iso and go from there. This has more to do with team attitude than anything - look at what happened with Adelman, and what he's doing with Minnesota vs. his last year or two in Houston.

They have a 9-10 player rotation.
 

Retro Rob

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1st Flopping fine for the amount of $5000 goes to............ wait for it...........

JAMES HARDEN!!!!!

I wish flopping fines were based on the player's salary, but I am glad they're cumulative fines.

Nothing, IMO, has decimated the quality of the NBA's on-court game more than flopping, and why I have a hard time watching it.

Once this is gone, maybe I'll return...personally.
 

dougp

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I wish flopping fines were based on the player's salary, but I am glad they're cumulative fines.

Nothing, IMO, has decimated the quality of the NBA's on-court game more than flopping, and why I have a hard time watching it.

Once this is gone, maybe I'll return...personally.

Flopping is prevalent in sports where contact is penalized - and it's hard to remove it. It's largely a European thing, brought over in the 90's with Divac and then even more with the international surge in the early 00's. Don't expect it to go away, just expect it to become a lot more subtle.
 
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It's too early in the season to mean anything, but I do enjoy seeing my team, a team that the national media gives less than a shit about, doing better in the standings than Miami, Boston, Chicago, New York, Brooklyn, Houston, Oklahoma City, Golden State and both teams from LA. It won't last (the Blazers have benefited from an easy opening schedule), but it's still fun to see.
 

Retro Rob

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Flopping is prevalent in sports where contact is penalized - and it's hard to remove it. It's largely a European thing, brought over in the 90's with Divac and then even more with the international surge in the early 00's. Don't expect it to go away, just expect it to become a lot more subtle.

Yeah, true. But as long as the Heat's 2011 NBA Finals "look my way and I'll fly into the first row like I've been shot by a rocket launcher"-type of flopping is gone, then I'll be ok with that.
 

darkewaffle

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Two pretty excellent games last night. Melo is awesome to watch when he's on fire like that and the end of OKC/GS was crazy. That Westbrook three was kind of unbelievable.
 
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That OKC / Warriors game was an instant classic. High scoring, both teams made runs, OKC overcame a big lead late, Westbrook hits a presumptive game-winning three from roughly San Jose, only for Iguodala to come back with a buzzer-beating turnaround jumper to win. Epic.

Oh good, someone's made animated gifs already. Thanks internet!

I WIN!


Ummm... No.


I love how Durant just flings himself into Westbrook. Oh, you're recovering from surgery? VICTORY BODY SLAM! Team chemistry bro! More important than knees.
 
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Vdubchaos

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I really like the Warriors. I would love to see them take it all the way this year. They have been the best team to watch IMO (late last year as well). Just plain fun to watch them play.

Pacers are looking very strong. Very good team.

I'm happy Knicks and Nets are doing....pathetic.

Too bad Miami is doing ok....hope they choke.

My team is disappointing so far (Bulls). But I know it will simply take time.
 
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Why on Earth is the All-Star Ballot already out? The season is 2 weeks old. Shouldn't the All-Star committee have slightly more data to work with to determine who should be included? And is it designed by people who don't watch basketball? I only ask because a quick perusal turns up a name I wouldn't expect to see on an All-Star ballot: AMAR'E FUCKING STOUDEMIRE. He is literally one of the worst players in the NBA this season by any metric you use (he's dead last in PER among qualified players). Who decided that he was someone who had to be on this list? According to statistics, Amar'e's (that's a weird name to make possessive) inclusion on this list means that literally every player in the NBA should be on it, since they've all been better.

I suppose I shouldn't be angry, since the All-Star game is more about "who have you heard of" and not actually "who is the best basketball player right now," (which is why Blake Griffin will start despite Kevin Love being a potential MVP) but having the ballot come out basically as the season starts means the people who compile the ballot have to work with last season's data. Which, by the way, still doesn't justify Amar'e's inclusion (there's that weird possessive again), as he was terrible last year too. "He won't get voted in," you say... True. But why include him at all? There are literally hundreds of players who have played better than him and aren't on the list. Why bother having the list at all? Was this just someone's idea of a joke?
 

dougp

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Why on Earth is the All-Star Ballot already out? The season is 2 weeks old. Shouldn't the All-Star committee have slightly more data to work with to determine who should be included? And is it designed by people who don't watch basketball? I only ask because a quick perusal turns up a name I wouldn't expect to see on an All-Star ballot: AMAR'E FUCKING STOUDEMIRE. He is literally one of the worst players in the NBA this season by any metric you use (he's dead last in PER among qualified players). Who decided that he was someone who had to be on this list? According to statistics, Amar'e's (that's a weird name to make possessive) inclusion on this list means that literally every player in the NBA should be on it, since they've all been better.

I suppose I shouldn't be angry, since the All-Star game is more about "who have you heard of" and not actually "who is the best basketball player right now," (which is why Blake Griffin will start despite Kevin Love being a potential MVP) but having the ballot come out basically as the season starts means the people who compile the ballot have to work with last season's data. Which, by the way, still doesn't justify Amar'e's inclusion (there's that weird possessive again), as he was terrible last year too. "He won't get voted in," you say... True. But why include him at all? There are literally hundreds of players who have played better than him and aren't on the list. Why bother having the list at all? Was this just someone's idea of a joke?

LOL. All-Star is a joke - should only be chosen by players/coaches but that'd make no business sense.
 

QueBert

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Fuck the NBA, my Celtics don't have a chance in hell. I was almost interested in the season, but someone today told me Lin for MVP. Did I missed the memo and Lin-Sanity's back on? I thought after his 1 week streak 2 years ago the myth was debunked?

Only joy I take is the Nets doing so god awful. FUCK YOU KG & Pierce, and Doc Rivers can eat an Elephant Penis. All that "in the for long haul" talk he was spouting off about a few years ago was was pure BS.
 
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Only joy I take is the Nets doing so god awful. FUCK YOU KG & Pierce, and Doc Rivers can eat an Elephant Penis. All that "in the for long haul" talk he was spouting off about a few years ago was was pure BS.

Only in Boston can people be so fickle with their loyalties. After the 1980s, the Celtics were largely terrible, Pierce, Garnett, Allen and Doc come in and win you guys a championship and now they are HATED by Boston because apparently if you don't retire a Celtic, "FUCK YOU." Shit, my team hasn't won a championship in 35 years, our best chance left town to go win one with Houston, and everyone in Portland LOVES Clyde Drexler. Couldn't be happier for the guy; we have streets named after him. "You can't win one here? That's fine, you tried, go win one somewhere else. You're awesome."

I do agree with you about the Nets though; I think it's strange just how much they've underperformed. But if last year's Lakers taught us nothing else, it should be that taking a bunch of aging superstars and throwing them together does not work as well in real life as it does in NBA 2K13. I hope the Nets keep losing (for the entirely selfish reason that Portland plays them on Monday on the second night of a back-to-back).
 

QueBert

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Only in Boston can people be so fickle with their loyalties. After the 1980s, the Celtics were largely terrible, Pierce, Garnett, Allen and Doc come in and win you guys a championship and now they are HATED by Boston because apparently if you don't retire a Celtic, "FUCK YOU." Shit, my team hasn't won a championship in 35 years, our best chance left town to go win one with Houston, and everyone in Portland LOVES Clyde Drexler. Couldn't be happier for the guy; we have streets named after him. "You can't win one here? That's fine, you tried, go win one somewhere else. You're awesome."

I do agree with you about the Nets though; I think it's strange just how much they've underperformed. But if last year's Lakers taught us nothing else, it should be that taking a bunch of aging superstars and throwing them together does not work as well in real life as it does in NBA 2K13. I hope the Nets keep losing (for the entirely selfish reason that Portland plays them on Monday on the second night of a back-to-back).

My problems with them aren't they left, plenty of players leave teams every year that's fine. But it was just 3 years ago Rivers assured us Boston fans that he was in for the long haul, even if a rebuilding process was necessary. As for KG & Pierce, they both publicly shitted on Allen for going to Miami. Then they turn around and do the same shit. If they hadn't opened their stupid mouths about Allen leaving, them leaving would have been a sad, but "I understand" moment for me.

As it stands the 3 of them should never be allowed to step foot in the Boston Gardens arena ever again. If the Clippers come to Boston to play, Rivers can stay in LA. Nets come to Boston? KG & Pierce can stay their asses in Brooklyn. I will smile if the Nets end up finishing the season with a worse record than my Celtics.
 

darkewaffle

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Then they turn around and do the same shit. If they hadn't opened their stupid mouths about Allen leaving, them leaving would have been a sad, but "I understand" moment for me.


Pacers looked very human against the Bulls. And Rose looked ridiculous from behind the arc at least. And the Clippers/Nets and Suns/Nets games were both good - Phoenix is fun to watch.
 

HendrixFan

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The Brooklyn Nets officially acquired future Hall of Fame forwards Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce and reserve guard Jason Terry in a blockbuster trade with the Boston Celtics, the teams announced Friday.

They pushed for the trade. KG has a no trade clause and couldn't go anywhere unless he agreed to it. He wouldn't go to Brooklyn without taking Pierce with him. Pierce did not have a no trade clause as far as I know, but the C's wouldn't have dealt him unless he was in agreement with it.
 
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Derrick Rose is out for the season for knee surgery. Bad luck for Rose; he was always a great player, but with knee issues causing him to miss basically two complete seasons in a row, will he ever be the same? And does it strike anyone else as a little ironic that his injury happened while playing in Portland, a team that has become synonymous with knee injuries? Stop greasing the court before games Portland.
 

darkewaffle

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Yeah, total downer about DRose, I was hoping to really see him return to form. At the same time, it was still a good game and so was the Blazers/Warriors bout the following night.

Klay Thompson is a weird looking dude.
 

DesiPower

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Derrick Rose is out for the season for knee surgery. Bad luck for Rose; he was always a great player, but with knee issues causing him to miss basically two complete seasons in a row, will he ever be the same? And does it strike anyone else as a little ironic that his injury happened while playing in Portland, a team that has become synonymous with knee injuries? Stop greasing the court before games Portland.

WTH, i wish I had a job where my employer would let me sit on my rear for 2 years in a row... Fire his a55 and get a new player who can get Chicago going again.
 

manly

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They pushed for the trade. KG has a no trade clause and couldn't go anywhere unless he agreed to it. He wouldn't go to Brooklyn without taking Pierce with him. Pierce did not have a no trade clause as far as I know, but the C's wouldn't have dealt him unless he was in agreement with it.
I don't begrudge those guys leaving, it's been funny to me how many dinosaurs Prokhorov is willing to stockpile in his pursuit of a quick championship.

Sure, they talked a lot of smack when Ray Allen left but that was in the aftermath of the ECF series they felt they should have won. Pierce claims KG thought about retirement instead of waiving his no-trade clause and Pierce eventually talked KG into joining the Brooklyn Nets.

I don't know about your last comment that Pierce would have to be in agreement. I feel Danny Ainge will trade anyone anytime. Even a Celtics lifer for just a couple draft picks lol.
 
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It's too early in the season to mean anything, but I do enjoy seeing my team, a team that the national media gives less than a shit about, doing better in the standings than Miami, Boston, Chicago, New York, Brooklyn, Houston, Oklahoma City, Golden State and both teams from LA. It won't last (the Blazers have benefited from an easy opening schedule), but it's still fun to see.

Three weeks later, my team has victories over San Antonio, Indiana, Oklahoma City and Golden State and owns the best record in the West. Holy shit. I was pleased with their early success but I didn't delude myself into thinking it would last (not my first year as a Blazers fan). But, lo and behold, they're actually looking like a legitimately great team at this point. Go Blazers!

And earlier, I said it was funny that the East looked so weak, and figured it would even out. If anything, it's gotten worse. What is going on out there? The West is a tight race for playoff seeds because the 6th seed and 13th seed are within 3 games of each other. The East is similar, but slightly less exciting given that only two teams have a record above .500. It's really gotten ridiculous. Some things you can't account for, like Derrick Rose going down again (which seriously sucks for basketball, and as a Portlander, I apologize to all fans of basketball for the fact that happened in our town), but why are NYK and Brooklyn so terrible? What the hell is going on?
 

HendrixFan

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That Blazers game tonight was great. I loved watching Westbrook flop a few times late and not get the call. I voted Aldridge in on my All Star ballot. I'm not sure how far the Blazers will run in the playoffs with just an average defense, I agree with those who say they need a trade to get someone who can help them get stops late.

Either way I wish I had them as a league pass team over the Bulls.
 
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