2013 viper price announced

[TakeNoPrisoners]

No power upgrade + more weight than last Gen? Hmm...

It does make 40HP more then the last gen viper, not much of an upgrade but better than nothing.

 

[overst33r]

No power upgrade + more weight than last Gen? Hmm...

?

It gained 40hp and lost 100lbs.

 

[exdeath]

Oops could have sworn 08+ was 640 HP.

 

[MagickMan]

Looks like a longer, and much wider, TVR. I guess it's okay, but the interior isn't doing anything for me.

 

[Baked]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goTQPmiYP9s&feature=relmfu

You can hear it run in this Jay Leno's at around the 11 minute mark. Just the start and idle, but it sounds pissed for sure.

LMAO, I love that video. "Why do you need AC in a muscle car, that's for sissies."

 

[tcG]

I think I've reassessed my view on the styling... I prefer the last generation of the old cars.

 

[Imported]

Good god.. I think I'd get that over any car under 100k if I could ever afford that. I love love love the new Viper look.

 

[exar333]

Hopefully will handle better than the old Viper too. Interested to see if a SC/turbo can easily be installed.

 

[JackBurton]

Good god.. I think I'd get that over any car under 100k if I could ever afford that. I love love love the new Viper look.

Yep. Dodge did a fantastic job, inside and out on that car. My hats off to them.

Now let's see what GM does with the C7 Corvette.

 

[JCH13]

Looks like a longer, and much wider, TVR. I guess it's okay, but the interior isn't doing anything for me.

If you're able to look at the interior you're clearly not driving it fast enough. :awe:

 

[manimal]

Wow, all sorts of wrong.

Why on earth would Dodge put Ford engines in their cars?

*If* such a thing were to exist, it wouldn't really be a Viper anymore....

It would also probably end up around $80k.

It would also have the 6.4L engine Dodge has that, while using more fuel, puts out 15% more power than Ford's 5.0. It weighs slightly more, but not by a lot as it's a pushrod engine (just like the real Viper engine) instead of a DOHC engine like the Ford.

In what world do you think that the V10 alone adds $60k to the price of the car?

All sorts of fail on my part yes. Meant to use the hemi but was working on a mustang gt when i wrote that post.

Do you not think they could make a lower specced car for 60k ?

 

[Howard]

Hopefully will handle better than the old Viper too. Interested to see if a SC/turbo can easily be installed.

You'd only be able to put in a few psi of boost before you become severely traction-limited.

 

[ProchargeMe]

I wonder if they'll make a special edition like the viper ACR. Those were smexy

 

[JulesMaximus]

Looks good. I like that candy red color too. Sports cars naturally look good in red though.

Hopefully will handle better than the old Viper too. Interested to see if a SC/turbo can easily be installed.

640hp isn't enough? Tell you what Mario, you go drive one and then come back here and tell me it needs a turbo.

 

[Viper GTS]

Looks good. I like that candy red color too. Sports cars naturally look good in red though.



640hp isn't enough? Tell you what Mario, you go drive one and then come back here and tell me it needs a turbo.

500 hp in a gen 2 feels downright docile at times with no driver aids at all. With traction and stability control I don't see a problem with wanting more than 640. Particularly when there's a 662hp Mustang.

Viper GTS

 

[ponyo]

Looks like a longer, and much wider, TVR. I guess it's okay, but the interior isn't doing anything for me.

When did Viper ever have good interior?

Looks wise I still prefer the 2nd gen. I don't think that design can ever be topped. I wonder if the interior is roomier. Viper GTS is still the only car that gave me extreme case of claustrophobia. I don't know what it was, maybe the angle/slant of the front windshield or the low bubblehead top, but I felt so enclosed and trapped in the Viper GTS. If not for that, I would have sold my Vette and bought my cousin's Viper GTS.

 

[overst33r]

500 hp in a gen 2 feels downright docile at times with no driver aids at all. With traction and stability control I don't see a problem with wanting more than 640. Particularly when there's a 662hp Mustang.

Viper GTS

Keep in mind, the new one has a 3.55 final drive. Compared to the old 3.15(?).

I found this on another forum (talking about the 3rd gen):

First of all, you guys who think the V10 and 8.4L of displacement are going to lead to eye flattening acceleration are sort of wrong. The Viper is fast, don't get me wrong, but it does not FEEL nearly as fast as it is. It also does not feel super torquey in the slightest. I specifically commented, as did my brother, on the lack of low RPM power. That's a combination of super, super long gears, aggressive torque management by the ECU, as well as the VVT which makes the engine relatively soft down low. It was actually pretty disappointing if you want to be perfectly honest. My brother felt the same way, which is why he modded it. The performance mopar ECU did not add much power, but it did sharpen the lower RPM reflexes and add a bit more torque down low. Frankly at 600 whp the performance, as far as driving enjoyment is concerned, was lacking which is why he sold it and got a 99 GTS. That car is much more engaging, despite being slower. It FEELS just as fast, but again due to the super tall gearing, it never really impresses. A Z06 feels like it has a much larger motor under the hood than either Viper does.

Hopefully the shorter final drive fixes that.

 

[Doppel]

They had a V-8 Viper...sort of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Firepower

Actually looks awesome, but Chrysler has no shortage of powerful looking vehicles or, evidently, powerful names.

 

[zoiks]

Oh man. Love the look and stance of that car.

 

[jlee1]

Looks like a longer, and much wider, TVR. I guess it's okay, but the interior isn't doing anything for me.

I agree; looks like a combo of a Sagaris and a Fisker. Interior is a WHOLE lot better than what it was before :thumbsup:

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Awesome car... It's crazy that cars are putting out so much power these days. This is the late 60's all over again.

 

[MagickMan]

I agree; looks like a combo of a Sagaris and a Fisker. Interior is a WHOLE lot better than what it was before :thumbsup:

I guess it is better, but that's like saying the rack is more comfortable than the iron maiden.

I'll get flamed for this, but at $135k for the SRT (likely $150-160k on the showroom floor), I'd rather have a supercharged `08 or `09 Gallardo, AWD w/ 760bhp. :hmm:

 

[jlee1]

I guess it is better, but that's like saying the rack is more comfortable than the iron maiden.

I'll get flamed for this, but at $135k for the SRT (likely $150-160k on the showroom floor), I'd rather have a supercharged `08 or `09 Gallardo, AWD w/ 760bhp. :hmm:

Of course. But the Viper is all about HUEVOS. No safety equipment, just a good old monstrous motor and 4 wheels. The Lambo has classy features, AWD and a comfortable interior

 

[Sulaco]

I guess it is better, but that's like saying the rack is more comfortable than the iron maiden.

I'll get flamed for this, but at $135k for the SRT (likely $150-160k on the showroom floor), I'd rather have a supercharged `08 or `09 Gallardo, AWD w/ 760bhp. :hmm:

First off, the SRT is base priced at $97,000, not the other way around:

Chrysler has announced pricing information for the 2013 SRT Viper, with the base price seen above, and the higher-spec Viper GTS model at $120,395 (plus destination)

I'm not sure where you're getting $160 on the showroom floor, but I think a $40,000 mark-up is a little extreme.

Second off:

...looks pretty damn good to me.

 

[Arkaign]

I guess it is better, but that's like saying the rack is more comfortable than the iron maiden.

I'll get flamed for this, but at $135k for the SRT (likely $150-160k on the showroom floor), I'd rather have a supercharged `08 or `09 Gallardo, AWD w/ 760bhp. :hmm:

There's no problem imho with preferring X used car over X new car, though it's apples/oranges to the fullest

Also, good luck keeping the Gallardo running for less than say $10k in maintenance/tires/brakes at minimum for every 10k miles People say German maintenance is high, they've never met a Ferrari or Lambo

*- yes, the new Lambos are largely German now of course, hahah