2014 - The year of 4k? 28" 4k $699+. 1440p 120Hz too!

[Wag]

oh mai gawsh..... seoooo tempting... and the seller is local... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!







Oh, you ordered it from S. Korea, Wag?

It should have a scalar right? Have you tried downscaling it to 1920x1080p and messing with the refresh rate there?

Yes, S. Korea. I'd have to pay for return shipping, that's why I didn't bother. But my monitor has some serious backlight/spotting issues. You can see it on dark screens.

It seems to be locked @ 60Hz regardless of the resolution. I'll have to fool around with it some more, but I haven't been able to get far with it.

 

[AkumaX]

Yes, S. Korea. I'd have to pay for return shipping, that's why I didn't bother. But my monitor has some serious backlight/spotting issues. You can see it on dark screens.

It seems to be locked @ 60Hz regardless of the resolution. I'll have to fool around with it some more, but I haven't been able to get far with it.

It's technically defective.. I think they would have had some guarantee to ship it back? I know one of my friends got a broken 27" QNIX and shipped it back no problem

 

[Z15CAM]

You can Fix back light bleeding and OC the QNIX QX2710 Evo II. Refresh Rate and OC'g Tools are available - HERE:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-qnix-x-star-1440p-monitor-club-read-1st-post

They come at 60Hz. I run the Matte version at 96Hz with the supplied DVI-D Cable and can do 120Hz with a better quality Cable - Some can do more. They are only DVI-D - No HDMI or VGA. HDMI can't do any more the 60Hz and what's the use VGA today. A GeForce 200 series will run them I believe you need at least a Radeon 6000 series to support 2560x1600 resolutions. I ran an eVGA GTX280 on a QNIX for a while and it worked brilliantly for Surfing and watching Movies.

For a Samsung 2560 x 1440 Res PLS Display for under $300, compared to Retailers asking $700 for them here - what more can you ask for at $300. I prefer the 2560x1440 16:9 screen over the larger 2560x1600 16:10 display.

Enthusiasts are aware of the back light bleed issues. Some are worse then others but if you're somewhat mechanically adept and follow the instructions on that site, it's not much to fix.

You stand less then a 5% chance of getting one with 1 or 2 dead Pixels. The two I bought from South Korea (One for a Friend) have no Dead Pixels. Paying for the Pixel Perfect option is a waste of money. If you carefully read their Warranty Print you will notice not one Vendor actually guarantees no dead pixels.

If damaged in shipment, DHL Shipping have great service (I had one damaged in shipment and had to return it with No Issues). If the Display obviously has Manufacturing defects, the South Korean Vendors are very obliging.

I love the QNIX QX2710 for BF4 and watching 1280x720 flics on a 16:9 screen - Highly recommended Display by me.

I'm seriously thinking about getting 2 more QNIX 27's and running a De-bezelled 3 screen 4320x2560 display on my own frame with Crossfire R9 290X's under water. I already have the Cards and my Platform Looped ;o)

$900 for say a 96 to 120Hz 4320x2560 for a Bezel-less Tryptych Samsung PLS display - Humm! - Full immersion Gamming.

I paid $268 for them a year ago. The price has gone up somewhat since then. They are definitely a Great Enthusiasts Display and priced right.

 

[Makaveli]

Well, some of us don't just game on our PCs. Coding loves monitor real estate - the more windows you can have - the better (having a debugger open for example, or other files etc.). And other professions can use it as well: editing videos. Editing RAW images. Monitoring multiple VMs. I can probably think of other uses. Another advantage of 4K (over 1440) is that it should still be very playable at 1080 without looking weird.
What I would like to see, at least until they can get the 4K part of it to run @120Hz would be something like we see in cameras - have the monitor do 4K at 60Hz but allow 1080 @120Hz. I think that should technically possible as the issue with doing 4K @120Hz is mostly bandwidth I believe (correct me if I'm wrong). That would truly let one enjoy all worlds at the same time until GPUs can handle 4K, which with these price drops on monitors should be sooner rather than later.

I totally agree with you.

For people not playing games I can see the need.

There is a flood of 7950s/280Xs hitting the market now due to cryptos taking a big plunge. I would think twin 280Xs could drive that resolution in Crossfire.

even with xfire and these cards you are only working with 3GBs of Vram and will still have to be turning settings down. Its doable if that meets ones standards.

 

[KingFatty]

I prefer the 2560x1440 16:9 screen over the larger 2560x1600 16:10 display.

Would you say it's because of the big price difference? So if the 2560x1600 was the same price, you'd prefer it to the 2560x1440?

Or is there something about the display itself that makes you prefer the 2560x1440? Like, if you could buy either one for the same price, you'd still get the 2560x1440?

 

[bystander36]

Would you say it's because of the big price difference? So if the 2560x1600 was the same price, you'd prefer it to the 2560x1440?

Or is there something about the display itself that makes you prefer the 2560x1440? Like, if you could buy either one for the same price, you'd still get the 2560x1440?

This type of thing is about the aspect ratio for myself. Though game dev's play a part in what is preferred.

Did you know that Starcraft 2 shows you more of the screen at 16:9 than 16:10? If you play competitive Starcraft 2, you need 1440p rather than 1600p. If there was a game type that I'd rather have 16:10, it would be RTS's, but if you see less of the battle as a result, it turns into a disadvantage.

For FPS, 16:9 is good. It gives you more peripheral where it matters. It is nice for RPG's too.

Because 16:9 is the dominant aspect ratio, it gets special treatment from developers. The games will be developed for 16:9 first, in most cases.

Because of all that, I'd go 1440p.

 

[AkumaX]

^^ http://www.progamingtours.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/sc2_fov.gif

I wonder if 21:9 works

 

[skipsneeky2]

Seen a 21:9 panel at Best Buy, think it was a Samsung.A very interesting concept and overall a awesome looking panel aspect wise.Must be amazing for fps games with that fov and for certain movies.:biggrin:

 

[AkumaX]

Seen a 21:9 panel at Best Buy, think it was a Samsung.A very interesting concept and overall a awesome looking panel aspect wise.Must be amazing for fps games with that fov and for certain movies.:biggrin:

Yes, you're right on both accounts I actually own(ed) the Dell version (U2913WM). Great on 21:9 movies (which most are), and very immersive for games. To take full advantage of it, you'd always have 2 items open side-by-side at all times (2 web pages/excel sheets). Essentially just 2 * 1280x1080 monitors.

It's definitely not for everyone, however. Since its 2560x1080, most of the argument goes to the fact that you can pick up a 27" 2560x1440 monitor (more pixels). Personally I wish the monitor was curved. Then it would have been perfect for games! I found myself leaning over quite a few times...

 

[Z15CAM]

Would you say it's because of the big price difference? So if the 2560x1600 was the same price, you'd prefer it to the 2560x1440?

The 2560x1440 is more convent at showing what you want to see and organizing your DeskTop.

That's my take but others may differ. I say you can't go wrong choosing a 2560x1440 PLS Dislay.

 

[Wag]

Well, unfortunately it's past the 7 days and my ebay seller won't take my monitor back so I'm stuck with it. The backlight bleed is really bad. It's a total POS.

 

[RaulF]

The 2560x1440 is more convent at showing what you want to see and organizing your DeskTop.

That's my take but others may differ. I say you can't go wrong choosing a 2560x1440 PLS Dislay.

Sorry is a little of topic but just saw on slickdeals a 27" Samsung pls 1440 for like 450 or so.

For anyone that might be interested. I am eagerly awaiting the Asus Rog Swift

 

[RaulF]

Well, unfortunately it's past the 7 days and my ebay seller won't take my monitor back so I'm stuck with it. The backlight bleed is really bad. It's a total POS.

We'll that sucks. I would dump it back on eBay maybe it won't bother someone else. Market it as good for office work that needs multiple windows.

 

[Wag]

We'll that sucks. I would dump it back on eBay maybe it won't bother someone else. Market it as good for office work that needs multiple windows.

Update- it's not quite done yet. I threatened to give my seller a bad rating (I know, that usually does little) and he said to send a video of it. If I get an exchange out of it I'll be happy.

 

[KingFatty]

Have you considered doing a fix for the backlight bleed? I've never done one, but I understand that is still an option if you run into a dead-end, and supposedly it's not too hard to open the case and fiddle around with it and fix the bleed.

 

[lundrog]

Same display I think.

the LU is a UK monitor, while the other is Koren.

 

[AkumaX]

Update- it's not quite done yet. I threatened to give my seller a bad rating (I know, that usually does little) and he said to send a video of it. If I get an exchange out of it I'll be happy.

Best of luck!

 

[_UP_]

Hey, can anyone who has the Samsung U28D590D monitor do a mini review? Thinking of getting one of these and was wondering about a few things.
Stuff like input lag, viewing angles, colours and so on. Any input really.
That would be great.
I'm guessing that Wag's backlight issue is something that could be RMA'd if bought here.
BTW, does anyone know how does the non-MST thing work?

EDIT: Forgot the monitor name.

 

[AkumaX]

Non-MST?

 

[_UP_]

Non-MST?

Well, MST is the part of the DP 1.2 standard that allows for displaying 60Hz on 4K as 2 displays.
I thought I read it here that people mentioned that this monitor is not using MST to do 60Hz but is actually identified as 1 monitor by the computer.

I may have read it here though. Not so sure now.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

DisplayPort 1.2 natively supports 4k@60Hz. MST was used because the earlier monitor controllers could not support that resolution at 60Hz. Newer monitors will not need to use MST because the newer controllers support 4k@60Hz.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displa...w/DisplayPort-12-MST-and-STMicro-Athena-Contr

 

[MongGrel]

Yes, you're right on both accounts I actually own(ed) the Dell version (U2913WM). Great on 21:9 movies (which most are), and very immersive for games. To take full advantage of it, you'd always have 2 items open side-by-side at all times (2 web pages/excel sheets). Essentially just 2 * 1280x1080 monitors.

It's definitely not for everyone, however. Since its 2560x1080, most of the argument goes to the fact that you can pick up a 27" 2560x1440 monitor (more pixels). Personally I wish the monitor was curved. Then it would have been perfect for games! I found myself leaning over quite a few times...

I've a DELL U2913WM on my main rig myself. it did take a bit of getting used to at first but I really like it personally.

Got it on sale around last Thanksgiving for around $399, needed a monitor at the time and gave it a go.

 

[x3sphere]

Well, MST is the part of the DP 1.2 standard that allows for displaying 60Hz on 4K as 2 displays.
I thought I read it here that people mentioned that this monitor is not using MST to do 60Hz but is actually identified as 1 monitor by the computer.

I may have read it here though. Not so sure now.

That doesn't mean it's not using MST though. My UP3214Q was automatically identified as one display, thanks to newer Nvidia drivers.

I think you would have to install one of the older driver sets to determine if this is a tiled display or not.

 

[_UP_]

That doesn't mean it's not using MST though. My UP3214Q was automatically identified as one display, thanks to newer Nvidia drivers.

I think you would have to install one of the older driver sets to determine if this is a tiled display or not.

It seems it does use MST by these 2 sources.

I'm now thinking I should wait.

 

[BrightCandle]

I personally don't think its a good idea to get a MST based 4k monitor. The controllers capable of the resolution should be out later this year and the pause will give Microsoft (and developers) some time to fix Windows scaling issues. Tiled screens are going to be a pain in the backside in the future with multiple monitor setups.