2015 WRX Teased

[PricklyPete]

No hatch makes this car much less interesting... Sounds like it is a good drive for the money... But so much less practical.

 

[Demo24]

First drive by C & D. They seem to like it. Not sure if I am all to thrilled with the $33k expected price tag for a fully loaded with CVT. STI to come next year I assume. At that rate, the STI might be close to $40k fully loaded.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-subaru-wrx-sedan-first-drive-review

The STI is already close to 40K, so that wouldn't change much.

 

[z1ggy]

No hatch makes this car much less interesting... Sounds like it is a good drive for the money... But so much less practical.

I think it is due to the fact they want to differentiate the WRX from the "regular" impreza, which comes in hatch style.

I share your desire for a hatch though. I have an impreza right now and there's times I'd kill to have that extra space. I can't imagine how awesome a 44% stiffer car would handle though.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I find it a little surprising that the only automatic option is a CVT. I have limited experience with CVT-equipped cars, but when I've driven them I absolutely hated the CVT with a white-hot passion. On the other hand, they are still putting an antiquated 5-speed auto in the Legacy (which I find remarkable), so I gather they may not have the financial resources to develop or even source a better auto or DCG. Personally I'd get a manual anyway, and now they've stepped up to a 6-speed, so not a problem for me.

 

[thescreensavers]

I think it is due to the fact they want to differentiate the WRX from the "regular" impreza, which comes in hatch style.

I share your desire for a hatch though. I have an impreza right now and there's times I'd kill to have that extra space. I can't imagine how awesome a 44% stiffer car would handle though.

I am a hatch lover, I really do not like that the 2015s do not come in hatch form but I would buy a the new WRX if its any bit better than my 13 i'd get it. Obv I'm going to keep my 13 for a while but I feel they might bring the hatches back seeing that a huge portion of the market is hatchbacks.

From a Review video I watched they said wanted to focus on sedan only so they can optimize the suspension/car rather than have two different cars to set up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHBZX7ZAWfU

 

[tweakmonkey]

CVT+AWD Subaru? Sounds like a recipe for the most boring sports car ever.

With a stick it wouldn't be too bad at least.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

no hatchy=no care

 

[billbobaggins87]

no hatchy=no care

also is it me or did the auto industry just generally suck at its designs for 2015... sigh gonna have to wait 4 years for them to correct it.. until then

 

[NutBucket]

I find it a little surprising that the only automatic option is a CVT. I have limited experience with CVT-equipped cars, but when I've driven them I absolutely hated the CVT with a white-hot passion. On the other hand, they are still putting an antiquated 5-speed auto in the Legacy (which I find remarkable), so I gather they may not have the financial resources to develop or even source a better auto or DCG. Personally I'd get a manual anyway, and now they've stepped up to a 6-speed, so not a problem for me.

Consider the current WRX isn't even available with an automatic. Not sure when that went away. But I'm sure offering the CVT is sure to attract a few more buyers.

Also, the CVT in the Legacy is actually not bad...and I hate most automatics. The 5-speed is only for the H6 cars of which they don't sell many. No big need to dump lots of money into it IMHO.

 

[Demo24]

I find it a little surprising that the only automatic option is a CVT. I have limited experience with CVT-equipped cars, but when I've driven them I absolutely hated the CVT with a white-hot passion. On the other hand, they are still putting an antiquated 5-speed auto in the Legacy (which I find remarkable), so I gather they may not have the financial resources to develop or even source a better auto or DCG. Personally I'd get a manual anyway, and now they've stepped up to a 6-speed, so not a problem for me.

Subarus have never been known to have terribly modern transmissions. They tend to be generally reliable, but otherwise unremarkable. Heck, the 4 speed lasted like 20 years. What I read on autoblog though is that the CVT isn't all that bad, and in fact fairly decent and that's probably due to the gear 'modes' it let's you have. Its still much better than the 4spd it use to have though.

I had heard rumors of a dcg coming, but that obviously didn't happen. Probably too expensive for Subaru to source on their own, and they do have a somewhat unique architecture that probably makes it more challenging to just get one off the shelf.


Also the legacy is getting replaced fairly soon, so I'd expect the transmission to change to all CVT when that occurs. Probably drop the h6. Subaru seems to generally only change transmissions when a new model comes.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

What I read on autoblog though is that the CVT isn't all that bad, and in fact fairly decent and that's probably due to the gear 'modes' it let's you have. Its still much better than the 4spd it use to have though.

I would think a CVT would be great match for turbo 4. Engineers could concentrate on getting the engine into the "sweet spot" and keeping it there.

 

[PricklyPete]

I would think a CVT would be great match for turbo 4. Engineers could concentrate on getting the engine into the "sweet spot" and keeping it there.

The consensus from reviewers is that the CVT is annoying with the NA 4, but not bad at all with the turbo (this is in regard to the Forester).

 

[Soccerman06]

Aww I saw the concept and hoped the new model would look like this, nope. Shame because this car is soooo meh

 

[cbrsurfr]

LOL: http://autoblopnik.com/2013/12/18/cvt-equipped-wrx-triggers-mass-suicides/


CVT-equipped WRX triggers mass suicides

The announcement that the upcoming 2015 Subaru WRX will feature a CVT transmission has caused waves of despair to wash over Subaru fans, with at least a dozen and a half suicides blamed on the car’s use of the Sport Lineartronic CVT.

 

[heymrdj]

I find most people hate CVT's because generally they are the fastest and most efficient they are going to be. For some reason people think that with the manuals they can make their POS NA 4 banger move the car faster. Makes people that can't afford nice cars feel good I guess.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I find most people hate CVT's because generally they are the fastest and most efficient they are going to be. For some reason people think that with the manuals they can make their POS NA 4 banger move the car faster. Makes people that can't afford nice cars feel good I guess.

I hate them because for me they totally disconnect what I am feeling and hearing in the engine from what I'm asking it to do. I drove a rented Maxima with a CVT for a few days and hated the way the CVT and engine always seemed to be wandering around the rev range, almost at random. Blech!

 

[ballmode]

I like the car on paper, but I think I'll hold out for the STI

 

[foghorn67]

I find most people hate CVT's because generally they are the fastest and most efficient they are going to be. For some reason people think that with the manuals they can make their POS NA 4 banger move the car faster. Makes people that can't afford nice cars feel good I guess.

No, they hate CVT's because they generally suck and do weird things.