2016 Camaro pics

[LTC8K6]

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f70/2016-camaro-cnbc-squawk-box-first-uncamo-ed-pic-shown-208665/

Looks quite a bit different.

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/2016-chevrolet-camaro-revealed-early-cnbc-153335171.html

The new Alpha platform Camaro will also get new engine options. It will reportedly have a 270-horsepower, 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder, a 330-horsepower 3.6-liter V6, or a 440 horsepower 6.2-liter LS1 V8.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Are they going to do something about that ridiculous looking dash layout?

 

[core2slow]

Why does it need 6.2L to only churn out 440hp? My RS5 is a 4.2 and made 450.

 

[jdoggg12]

Why does it need 6.2L to only churn out 440hp? My RS5 is a 4.2 and made 450.

Maybe lowered compression to increase fuel economy and not need premium fuel? Might also be geared towards better reliability while offering a high displacement vehicle that can easily be tuned for greater HP in the aftermarket?

 

[exar333]

Maybe lowered compression to increase fuel economy and not need premium fuel? Might also be geared towards better reliability while offering a high displacement vehicle that can easily be tuned for greater HP in the aftermarket?

As much as I love the RS5, you can get 2x Camaros for that price. Its not exactly in the same market segment...

 

[EightySix Four]

Why does it need 6.2L to only churn out 440hp? My RS5 is a 4.2 and made 450.

Torque. Your motor makes 350 ft-lb of torque and the LT1 is probably going to be closer to 420 ft-lb. The RS5 revs to 8250, this will rev closer to 6500. The RS5 is DOHC, the LT1 is OHV.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Ugh.

Dear GM:

Your first-gen Camaro was one of the best-looking muscle cars of all time. The second-gen car was also fairly attractive. If you wanted to make a retro-design Camaro, you should have borrowed a page from Ford's book with the last-gen Mustang and designed the new car based on one of the winning designs from the Camaro's past. Instead, you designed something that is not pleasing to the eye and doesn't share any obvious ties to the Camaro's legacy. Now you have "refreshed" the Camaro with an even uglier design that has as much design language in common with a Honda Prelude as with a Camaro. I gather this car emerged from the same design geniuses who brought us the last-gen Monte Carlo and/or the Pontiac Aztek.

I urge you to fire your entire design staff and burn down your design studio or, at a minimum, have an exorcism performed to wipe away whatever spirits have haunted it since at least the mid-70s.

Regards,

Don Vito Corleone.

 

[exar333]

Ugh.

Dear GM:

Your first-gen Camaro was one of the best-looking muscle cars of all time. The second-gen car was also fairly attractive. If you wanted to make a retro-design Camaro, you should have borrowed a page from Ford's book with the last-gen Mustang and designed the new car based on one of the winning designs from the Camaro's past. Instead, you designed something that is not pleasing to the eye and doesn't share any obvious ties to the Camaro's legacy. Now you have "refreshed" the Camaro with an even uglier design that has as much design language in common with a Honda Prelude as with a Camaro. I gather this car emerged from the same design geniuses who brought us the last-gen Monte Carlo and/or the Pontiac Aztek.

I urge you to fire your entire design staff and burn down your design studio or, at a minimum, have an exorcism performed to wipe away whatever spirits have haunted it since at least the mid-70s.

Regards,

Don Vito Corleone.

For all the teases lately on the new design, it looks an awfully lot the same???

 

[yh125d]

Why does it need 6.2L to only churn out 440hp? My RS5 is a 4.2 and made 450.

Why does the RS5 make 3 fewer ft/lbs of torque than a 4 cylinder mustang makes with 2.3L?

 

[core2slow]

Why does the RS5 make 3 fewer ft/lbs of torque than a 4 cylinder mustang makes with 2.3L?

Because it's raw, unadulterated power and doesn't need a blower to compensate for its lack of torque.

Kidding aside, I love the new Camaros.

 

[Yuriman]

Because it's raw, unadulterated power and doesn't need a blower to compensate for its lack of torque.

Kidding aside, I love the new Camaros.

There's something to be said for N/A power.

 

[LevelSea]

6.2L LS1? I thought that was the older 5.7L in the F-bodies...

 

[eng2d2]

Ugh.

Dear GM:

Your first-gen Camaro was one of the best-looking muscle cars of all time. The second-gen car was also fairly attractive. If you wanted to make a retro-design Camaro, you should have borrowed a page from Ford's book with the last-gen Mustang and designed the new car based on one of the winning designs from the Camaro's past. Instead, you designed something that is not pleasing to the eye and doesn't share any obvious ties to the Camaro's legacy. Now you have "refreshed" the Camaro with an even uglier design that has as much design language in common with a Honda Prelude as with a Camaro. I gather this car emerged from the same design geniuses who brought us the last-gen Monte Carlo and/or the Pontiac Aztek.

I urge you to fire your entire design staff and burn down your design studio or, at a minimum, have an exorcism performed to wipe away whatever spirits have haunted it since at least the mid-70s.

Regards,

Don Vito Corleone.

Do others feel this way?

 

[CropDuster]

6.2L LS1? I thought that was the older 5.7L in the F-bodies...

Pretty sure he meant LT1, since that's what's in the C7.

 

[LTC8K6]

Pretty sure he meant LT1, since that's what's in the C7.

Well, it's a Yahoo article. They might have written anything.

 

[LTC8K6]

The 2.0T needs to be in a Cruze SS...

 

[Crono]

Looks worse, like they injected the Impala design language into it, the same way Ford took some of the Fusion look at put it into the new Mustang (which I think worked out well for the most part, though it lost some of it's classic look in favor of a more svelte/Europen one, which the Fusion itself gained from being redesigned by the company which owned Aston Martin at one point...).

I hope that four-cylinder is at least more efficient than the ridiculous EcoBoost Ford one.

 

[darkswordsman17]

It's ok, the front end actually reminds me of the Dodge Charger Hellcat's front fascia. I like the front but the rest is fairly meh to me. Not a big fan of the side window shape (preferred it and how the roofline flowed to the trunk on the current Camaro more), reminds me of the side glass from an old Gran Torino Cobra.

Hope the interior got a big change though as I thought it just sucked.

 

[A.t]

Do others feel this way?

I do. I find these last 2 gen camaros at least somewhat ugly, they should have taken back the design from the 68 SS.

A 2008 Mustang with a Cervini or a Saleen body kit looks so much better than these things.

 

[KentState]

Why does it need 6.2L to only churn out 440hp? My RS5 is a 4.2 and made 450.

450 hp @ 8250RPM
317 ft/lb @ 4000-6000RPM
0-60 4.5 seconds AWD

The LT1 in the Corvette is:

460 hp @ 4600RPM
465 ft/lb @ 4000RPM
0-60 3.8 RWD

Seems to me the more compact OHV engine does pretty well in a RWD configuration compared to the RS 5. Also amazing that the huge footprint of the RS 6 engine can only give 4.2L of displacement while the LT1 in a smaller footprint has more.

 

[evident]

they really dropped the ball on the appearance front. looks like a MMC of the previous generation, and way more tame. still looks like you cant see out of the vehicle either. Mustang has nothing to worry about

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Looks quite a bit different.

or.... very much the same

 

[LTC8K6]

or.... very much the same

Well, we should see the whole car clearly in a few hours. :whiste:

 

[AMCRambler]

Why does it need 6.2L to only churn out 440hp? My RS5 is a 4.2 and made 450.

New RS5 goes for $70,000 to start. You can get 2016 Camaro ZL1 for $56,000 with the LT1 tuned for 550bhp. Why doesn't Audi offer the same 4.2 on a higher trim car with 500+ hp? That's right, it's tapped out at 450. Gonna need some turbos to keep up I guess.

Troll does not understand the concept of motor being tuned for reliability. The closer to max power you run a smaller block engine the shorter the maintenance intervals and less life you get out of it.

 

[sgrinavi]

New RS5 goes for $70,000 to start. You can get 2016 Camaro ZL1 for $56,000 with the LT1 tuned for 550bhp. Why doesn't Audi offer the same 4.2 on a higher trim car with 500+ hp? That's right, it's tapped out at 450. Gonna need some turbos to keep up I guess.

Troll does not understand the concept of motor being tuned for reliability. The closer to max power you run a smaller block engine the shorter the maintenance intervals and less life you get out of it.

Really doesn't have much to do with reliability - there's plenty of high mileage, high revving N/A V8's and flat 6's out there. You're not running them anywhere close to their red line most of the time.

It's a different experience - when that motor is singing at 7k going into a turn you have immediate and predictable throttle response, not one bit of lag and room to accelerate out of the corner.