*** 2016 NBA Playoff thread ***

[zerocool84]

One thing I hadn't thought about is the MVP trophy ceremony. What would Adam Silver do, force LeBron to go out during the championship celebration to accept such a bitter pill? Might as well be a cyanide pill, he wouldn't want any part of that.

Considering it didn't happen last year when he was a clear cut MVP of the Finals IMHO, most of us don't think it'll actually happen this time if the Cavs lose. But if he's most deserving compared to any other player, he should get the votes.

The reason why it's a ah heck bigger deal this year is because of how good a season and team GSW have been.

 

[lupi]

wow did kerr and curry give rather minimal fines.

 

[zerocool84]

wow did kerr and curry give rather minimal fines.

Yea, it's not horrible what they did.

 

[JEDI]

Who schedules a game 7 during Money in the Bank? My life is ruined!

huh?

 

[JEDI]

agreed, klay thompson definitely the best GSW this series

yes
mr 3 pointer

wow did kerr and curry give rather minimal fines.

what was curry's fine?
I wanted them to suspend curry for game 7 because I soooooooooooooo wanted the circus that would come.

why did kerr get fined?

 

[zerocool84]

yes
mr 3 pointer



what was curry's fine?
I wanted them to suspend curry for game 7 because I soooooooooooooo wanted the circus that would come.

why did kerr get fined?

They both got fined $25k, Kerr forum his comments about the officiating.

 

[brianmanahan]

I wanted them to suspend curry for game 7 because I soooooooooooooo wanted the circus that would come.

i would have needed this much popcorn to properly enjoy that meltdown (extra salty):

 

[Miramonti]

James is the finals mvp regardless of game 7 and should get the award this time or the award is once again a fraud. The mvp is an individual award, not a team award. If GS wins game 7, they are awarded something, a championship trophy, but neither of it's players should be gifted an mvp award they haven't even come close to earning.

 

[purbeast0]

i don't even know why they HAVE to give an mvp award out. there doesn't HAVE to be an mvp of the finals. that is what i hate about society right now, everything HAS to be so black and white to everybody.

if the warriors do win, there simply shouldn't be an mvp given out this year unless one person is the sole reason they win tomorrow night. if cavs win, well duh.

"here is your trophy for being good enough to be the runner up but not good enough to put your team in 1st place, now move over while we give the champions the only trophy that matters in this league" just doesn't make any sense to me, in any sport or competition.

 

[vi edit]

i don't even know why they HAVE to give an mvp award out. there doesn't HAVE to be an mvp of the finals. that is what i hate about society right now, everything HAS to be so black and white to everybody.

I fully support that idea. If there isn't a clear cut unanimous choice then don't force it.

 

[brianmanahan]

i think they should just give out participation ribbons to everyone

 

[JEDI]

James is the finals mvp regardless of game 7 and should get the award this time or the award is once again a fraud. The mvp is an individual award, not a team award. If GS wins game 7, they are awarded something, a championship trophy, but neither of it's players should be gifted an mvp award they haven't even come close to earning.

klay should be the playoffs mvp.

 

[Ackmed]

There is no thing as a playoff MVP, just a Finals MVP.

But yes Thompson has been the best player for the Warriors. Would have never beaten OKC without him, and without OKC playing like idiots the last few mins of games.

 

[zinfamous]

ONe thing I think everyone could agree on: if the Cavs lose and LeBron somehow get an MVP, LeBron wouldn't really give a shit.

The award is essentially meaningless to him at that point. Hell, he might even offer to give it someone like Klay Thompson.

Why the hell would he even want it in that situation? I think I would be somewhat insulted for that pity trophy.

 

[zerocool84]

klay should be the playoffs mvp.

He did save their season during the OKC series. If he wouldn't have went off they wouldn't even be here right now.

 

[Red Storm]

playing basketball in this case....

again you are confusing championships and MVP...
champions get a trophy and a ring because they won the game/series.

MVP's get a trophy because they were the most important player out there.

If you don't win, then what you did isn't important. There is no value to a losing effort, lol at people not understanding this. It's not the Most Impressive Player award (Lebron would win that one hands down), it's the Most VALUABLE Player award. If Lebron doesn't win, then there is no value to what he did. His stats aren't important because they didn't lead to anything.

 

[manly]

538 has some article that stated that this is LeBron's best Finals ever (by some "advanced" stat). I'm not sure I quite agree but that would support many claims here that he's the MVP thus far. I admit I can be harsh on him at times because we see what he's capable of when dialed in, so when he lays a stink bomb (game 4), it often doesn't make sense.

If you don't win, then what you did isn't important. There is no value to a losing effort, lol at people not understanding this. It's not the Most Impressive Player award (Lebron would win that one hands down), it's the Most VALUABLE Player award. If Lebron doesn't win, then there is no value to what he did. His stats aren't important because they didn't lead to anything.

Damn straight. That's exactly why Robert Horry is 7 times the player Jerry West ever was. And an infinitely better PF than Karl Malone to boot.

#winning

 

[Red Storm]

Damn straight. That's exactly why Robert Horry is 7 times the player Jerry West ever was. And an infinitely better PF than Karl Malone to boot.

#winning

Can't tell if sarcastic, but we're talking about MVP of the finals, not who is a better player.

When Barkley won the MVP, does that mean he's better than Jordan? Of course not. People are confusing best player with most valuable player. One does not factor in winning, the other does.

 

[Artorias]

How about they give it to the best player period, that's what it should be in my opinion.

Valuable is open to a lot interpretation, who has more value to their team versus another, its apples and oranges.

Each team could then give an individual award for who was their MVP voted by their peers for the season.

 

[QueBert]

538 has some article that stated that this is LeBron's best Finals ever (by some "advanced" stat). I'm not sure I quite agree but that would support many claims here that he's the MVP thus far. I admit I can be harsh on him at times because we see what he's capable of when dialed in, so when he lays a stink bomb (game 4), it often doesn't make sense.


Damn straight. That's exactly why Robert Horry is 7 times the player Jerry West ever was. And an infinitely better PF than Karl Malone to boot.

#winning

Game 4 he had 25 points shooting over 50%, 13 rebounds & 9 assists. How's 1 assist away from a triple double a stinker? lol. He did have 7 turn overs, but he played good. Games 5 & 6 he was definitely playing better, but his stinker game as you put it, he was still killing it.

 

[smackababy]

Game 4 he had 25 points shooting over 50%, 13 rebounds & 9 assists. How's 1 assist away from a triple double a stinker? lol. He did have 7 turn overs, but he played good. Games 5 & 6 he was definitely playing better, but his stinker game as you put it, he was still killing it.

That is the problem though. Lebron displayed he can put on such incredible performances when he has an above average for every other player performance, it's low on his scale.

Damn straight. That's exactly why Robert Horry is 7 times the player Jerry West ever was. And an infinitely better PF than Karl Malone to boot.

#winning

You're confusing best and most valuable. The finals MVP is given to the player who gave the most value to their team in a single best of 7 series, and your contributions (no matter how grand) aren't valuable enough if you lose.

 

[manly]

Game 4 he had 25 points shooting over 50%, 13 rebounds & 9 assists. How's 1 assist away from a triple double a stinker? lol. He did have 7 turn overs, but he played good. Games 5 & 6 he was definitely playing better, but his stinker game as you put it, he was still killing it.

did you watch the game? 7 of the points were in garbage time. I don't normally agree with Stephen A. Smith but he blasted LBJ for that performance. Objectively (and subjectively) he did not play "good" or well. But like I said, I hold LB to a higher standard than just about anybody else currently playing bball. If you think I'm too harsh, LB himself said it was a must-win game but he clearly didn't bring it that night.

So yes, LBJ can nearly have a triple double and still play a bad game. I realize that statement sounds weird and doesn't apply to 99% of the NBA. Subtract out the 7 meaningless points and your stat line is 18/13/9 with 7 turnovers. Compared to what we know LB can do, that's not a good game.

Most of those 7 turnovers were due to LB being passive and looking to dish the ball instead of attack. His two subsequent performances have been 180 degree reversals of game 4.

 

[smackababy]

Curry fined $25,000 for throwing his mouth piece. No suspension mentioned.

 

[Miramonti]

i don't even know why they HAVE to give an mvp award out. there doesn't HAVE to be an mvp of the finals. that is what i hate about society right now, everything HAS to be so black and white to everybody.

if the warriors do win, there simply shouldn't be an mvp given out this year unless one person is the sole reason they win tomorrow night. if cavs win, well duh.

"here is your trophy for being good enough to be the runner up but not good enough to put your team in 1st place, now move over while we give the champions the only trophy that matters in this league" just doesn't make any sense to me, in any sport or competition.

No complaints there.

klay should be the playoffs mvp.

He's had a lot of awesomeness throughout, but no such thing.

 

[smackababy]

He's had a lot of awesomeness throughout, but no such thing.

He's had the most standout performances of any of the Warriors at the moment. Though, I'm sure whoever goes off in game 7 will get it. I couldn't argue if one player takes over the game and pushes his team to victory gets it. That is, unless it's Curry. If he goes off and they win, he still doesn't deserve it.