2016 NCAA FB Regular Season

[lupi]

Top 4 stay the same, just bumped Clemson ahead of ohio.

 

[renz20003]

Top 4 stay the same, just bumped Clemson ahead of ohio.

The bobcats made the playoffs?!

 

[Adrenaline]

Wow. Two years ago Ohio State won their conference championship game and (lost to a bad Virginia Tech team that went 6-6 in the regular season and were barely bowl eligible) jumped over Baylor (lost to a bad West Virginia team 7-5) and TCU (lost to Baylor 11-1) due to no conference championship game.

Now, OSU doesn't play in a conference championship game at all after not even winning their division and they get in the CFP.

The Big 12, especially Baylor and TCU, have every right to go off on this committee.

 

[destrekor]

Wow. Two years ago Ohio State won their conference championship game and (lost to a bad Virginia Tech team that went 6-6 in the regular season and were barely bowl eligible) jumped over Baylor (lost to a bad West Virginia team 7-5) and TCU (lost to Baylor 11-1) due to no conference championship game.

Now, OSU doesn't play in a conference championship game at all after not even winning their division and they get in the CFP.

The Big 12, especially Baylor and TCU, have every right to go off on this committee.

I am an OSU fan for life. And alumni. And I hope they do raise a ruckus. I hope the whole country raises a ruckus. This playoff system is a joke, no better than the BCS. We need a real playoff, at least, as real as we can get with the collegiate conference system to which we cling.

 

[Svnla]

I just look at all the bowl games for this year and Vandy and Kentucky both are going to bowl games? <awe> They both have better overall record than Mizz, Ole Miss, and Miss State.

For those that are not familiar, Kentucky and Vanderbilt are not good in football for years.

 

[KLin]

@pyonir needs to start up the new bowl pickem pool! :-D

 

[Ns1]

Hey whatever USC at the rose bowl again woooo

 

[Hugh Jass]

Hey whatever USC at the rose bowl again woooo

WOOOOOOO for not playing for anything meaningful...again.

 

[renz20003]

It boils down to money and image. Ohio State always draws well in bowls and they don't have a sex scandal on their resume.

 

[Ns1]

WOOOOOOO for not playing for anything meaningful...again.

hey at least we get another home game. better than you know...nothing.

 

[Chaotic42]

hey at least we get another home game. better than you know...nothing.

It's no Independence Bowl, but it'll do.

 

[manly]

Hey whatever USC at the rose bowl again woooo

Hopefully they pound PSU so that people can stop whining that OSU doesn't belong in the CFP this year. (I can't speak to the bias in 2014.)

I'm not an Ohio State (or Big-10 fan), but they're the consensus 2nd or 3rd best team in the country. Excluding them from the CFP would be a lot more troublesome. Likewise, Washington's resume looks a little better than Penn State's. For one, they don't have a 40 point loss on their record. If you look at AP Poll points, it's not even super close between #4 and #5.

The correct 4 teams were chosen for this year's CFP. Hopefully UW doesn't get embarrassed in the semifinal, but that wouldn't really surprise people too much. Based on the money involved, we should all expect an 8-team CFP within 5 years.

 

[lupi]

Heisman finalists:

Lamar Jackson, quarterback, Louisville: Just a sophomore, Jackson has put up insane numbers all season for the Cardinals. In 12 games, Jackson has accounted for 51 total touchdowns — 30 passing and 21 rushing — along with 3,390 passing yards and 1,538 rushing yards. Jackson has been the frontrunner for the duration of the season, but there has been some talk that his performances in Louisville’s two losses to end the regular season could hurt him.

Deshaun Watson, quarterback, Clemson: Watson finished third in the voting behind Henry and Stanford running back Christian McCaffrey. Compared to this time last year, Watson’s numbers are better through 13 games. He is sixth nationally 3,914 yards passing (3,512 through 13 games in 2015) and is tied for fifth with 37 touchdowns (30 in 2015). The junior has also rushed for 529 yards and six scores. He has thrown 15 interceptions, however.

Baker Mayfield, quarterback, Oklahoma: Mayfield finished fourth in the Heisman voting behind Watson in 2015 but was not invited to the ceremony. This year Mayfield has thrown for 3,669 yards (ninth nationally) and 38 touchdowns (fourth) while completing 71.2 percent of his passes, the top mark in the country. He helped Oklahoma rally from a 1-2 start to win nine games in a row and the program’s second Big 12 title in a row.

Jabrill Peppers, defensive back, Michigan: Peppers is listed as a defensive back, but he has lined up at a bevy of positions for the Wolverines on both sides of the ball, including safety, cornerback, linebacker, Wildcat quarterback, and wide receiver. In addition to 66 tackles, 13 tackles for loss, three sacks and an interception, the Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year also has 170 yards and three touchdowns offensively, averages 26 yards per kick return and 14.8 yards per punt return (including a 54-yard TD). He is the first defensive player to earn an invitation to the Heisman ceremony since Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te’o in 2012.

Dede Westbrook, wide receiver, Oklahoma: Westbrook has been on the receiving end of Mayfield’s precise deep balls all season long, registering 74 catches for 1,465 yards — a ridiculous 19.8-yard average. The senior is also tied for fourth in the nation with 16 touchdown catches. Westbrook has had over 100 yards receiving in seven of OU’s last eight games heading into the Sugar Bowl against Auburn.

 

[Hugh Jass]

It's no Independence Bowl, but it'll do.

They're both worth the same in the end.

If you ain't in the CFP it don't mean shit.

 

[edro]

Wow. Two years ago Ohio State won their conference championship game and (lost to a bad Virginia Tech team that went 6-6 in the regular season and were barely bowl eligible) jumped over Baylor (lost to a bad West Virginia team 7-5) and TCU (lost to Baylor 11-1) due to no conference championship game.

Now, OSU doesn't play in a conference championship game at all after not even winning their division and they get in the CFP.

The Big 12, especially Baylor and TCU, have every right to go off on this committee.

From another OSU fan's point of view: OSU lost to VTech because they had a new QB (after start QB was injured) who was rattled, and it was early in the season. They finished the season very strong. Winning the conference championship didn't put them in; winning the conference championship against a #11 ranked Wisconsin team 59 to NOTHING put them in. If they had won 21-14, they would have been left out.
The committee has to make tough choices; losers are guaranteed. Of course top conference and storied traditional schools are going to get in.

 

[destrekor]

From another OSU fan's point of view: OSU lost to VTech because they had a new QB (after start QB was injured) who was rattled, and it was early in the season. They finished the season very strong. Winning the conference championship didn't put them in; winning the conference championship against a #11 ranked Wisconsin team 59 to NOTHING put them in. If they had won 21-14, they would have been left out.
The committee has to make tough choices; losers are guaranteed. Of course top conference and storied traditional schools are going to get in.

This is certainly something that is often forgotten. There was a lot of controversy at the time about putting OSU in, because of that early loss and having looked shaky quite a bit throughout the year. The fact that the Big 10 had a conference championship whereas Big 12 did not wasn't nearly the factor that everyone made it out to be. I still do not understand how Baylor and TCU technically tied to share the conference championship. I don't think they had a tie-breaker procedure at the time, which is frankly ridiculous, as Baylor had the head up by beating TCU so I don't even know why an official rule was even needed to declare Baylor the champion. And certainly the CFP committee would have looked at Baylor as the de-facto champ by having beat TCU. If OSU would have squeaked by for the win against Wisconsin, there's a very strong chance that Baylor would have made the cut ahead of OSU. But when they absolutely dismantled Wisconsin, with their 3rd-string QB, that is what put them in ahead of Baylor. Also, factored in if they would have only barely beat Wisconsin is the fact that the team wouldn't have been considered at its prime, as they had that 3rd-string QB. If they didn't look stellar with him, they wouldn't have made it in. But they did, and they continued to look like an entirely different team for the whole playoff as well.

This year, well, definitely going to be something to watch. Barrett has looked meh just as often as he has looked great. But a lot of this has to do with the offensive line, and they have looked equally as meh and great just as often.

 

[edro]

OSU's deep threat is non existent in recent weeks.
There is no way they can compete with Alabama if they don't get that back.

 

[destrekor]

OSU's deep threat is non existent in recent weeks.
There is no way they can compete with Alabama if they don't get that back.

Agreed. They have the talent and the capability, it just has to come together in the end. And still it all shows how desperately the team misses Tom Herman. That can't be an excuse forever but dammit he was one hell of an O-coordinator, and they haven't rebounded from his departure.

 

[zinfamous]

I have no love for OSU, but it's better than letting Rape State into the CFP.

fuck, I can't believe those asswipes are still allowed to field a team, much less not having been sanctioned into an obvious death spiral. Screw that program.

OK, I wanted to rant about the 4 team playoffs, but you guys reminded me about the rape program.

 

[zinfamous]

So let me go back and mention once again why college football is screwed up.

Penn State beats Ohio State. Beats Wisconsin to win the Big 10. And Ohio State will likely get to play in the playoff while Penn State plays in a meaningless bowl game? Because people voted on it and that's, like, their opinion man? Wow.

Child Rape.

Maybe that's why?

 

[destrekor]

fuck, I can't believe those asswipes are still allowed to field a team, much less not having been sanctioned into an obvious death spiral. Screw that program.

OK, I wanted to rant about the 4 team playoffs, but you guys reminded me about the rape program.

They were. That's why they have sucked for the past few years.

They were destined to suck this year, but... something happened. They got a fire in them. They're desperately trying to rebuild the program, it was always a good program there and then the sanctions killed them.

I couldn't care less if they do well or not, but I hate to see a team get killed by past issues. They suffered, hard, but they've paid their dues now.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

They were. That's why they have sucked for the past few years.

They were destined to suck this year, but... something happened. They got a fire in them. They're desperately trying to rebuild the program, it was always a good program there and then the sanctions killed them.

I couldn't care less if they do well or not, but I hate to see a team get killed by past issues. They suffered, hard, but they've paid their dues now.

They suffered hard? They freaking suffered hard? They engage in a system of coverups and denials that allow god knows how many kids to be molested for more than 30 years, all the while protecting the football team so that even more kids are victimized and they suffered hard because the team was bad for three years?!?!?!?!? And Penn State is who "suffered hard"? Holy fuck!

 

[destrekor]

They suffered hard? They freaking suffered hard? They engage in a system of coverups and denials that allow god knows how many kids to be molested for more than 30 years, all the while protecting the football team so that even more kids are victimized and they suffered hard because the team was bad for three years?!?!?!?!? And Penn State is who "suffered hard"? Holy fuck!

Uh.... what?

lol Not once did I defend PSU's actions or the actions of the coaches, and they deserved everything they got, and more. But what do you want? For the college to be erased from the map? It's not the schools fault, or the team's fault, it's the fault of people who ran the programs. They are gone now, in prison even, so those who are to blame have been dealt justice. What's the program to do now? Rebuild. They had sanctions, just like every other school that's had bad things happen due to people who ran the programs. Those people are gone, punished by the justice system, and then sanctions are applied to the school/team in general by the NCAA as their own punishment, and now those have been served.

Not once did I compare the team's suffering to the suffering of the victims. I don't see how you could have possible extrapolated that from what I said.

 

[zinfamous]

They were. That's why they have sucked for the past few years.

They were destined to suck this year, but... something happened. They got a fire in them. They're desperately trying to rebuild the program, it was always a good program there and then the sanctions killed them.

I couldn't care less if they do well or not, but I hate to see a team get killed by past issues. They suffered, hard, but they've paid their dues now.

Bullshit they were sanctioned. They still have a program. Not only that, this team is a top ~5 team. what a bunch of horseshit.

Maybe ask SMU what "hard sanctions" are like. For, you know, doing things that really don't matter in comparison.

 

[zinfamous]

Uh.... what?

lol Not once did I defend PSU's actions or the actions of the coaches, and they deserved everything they got, and more. But what do you want? For the college to be erased from the map? It's not the schools fault, or the team's fault, it's the fault of people who ran the programs. They are gone now, in prison even, so those who are to blame have been dealt justice. What's the program to do now? Rebuild. They had sanctions, just like every other school that's had bad things happen due to people who ran the programs. Those people are gone, punished by the justice system, and then sanctions are applied to the school/team in general by the NCAA as their own punishment, and now those have been served.

Not once did I compare the team's suffering to the suffering of the victims. I don't see how you could have possible extrapolated that from what I said.

I never said anything about erasing the college from the map.

The football program needs to go, and the culture of denial and rape acceptance that flowered there for 30 years, and even after it was exposed, among the die-hard brainwashed dumbshit fans that still defend rape enabler Joe Paterno and his bullshit criminal legacy.

Plenty of fine universities have simply axed their useless football programs and moved on fine with their real academic mission. Look at U Chicago--an excellent school that had a championship football program (and the first ever Heisman winner), that at one point in the 50s, 60s?, was like "fuck it--sports at this level is bullshit. we're a school."

They aren't having any funding or enrollment issues. Athletics anywhere brings in ~$0 to the actual school. Compared to grants and cash brought in via research and the actual academic mission, giant ADs are a mere pittance, even though there is this backwards notion that some pointless football coach deserves the highest salary in any given state. It makes no sense whatsoever. anyway...I digress.