The Chrysler is brand new and is basically an unknown. Chrysler quality is up there these days, I wouldn't discount them based on what they were doing in the year 2000.
We replaced our '07 Ody with a '15 Ody a year and a half ago and my wife was all about the vacuum. At the time it was only available in the upper level trims and I told her there was no way in hell we were paying an extra $8K-$10K for a vacuum - I'd be more than happy to install a rechargeable one in the back for well under $50. When I went to do it she said, "nah, I'll let you know if I need it". Still vacuumless...
Source? every one I've read puts them near the bottom still in quality.
I have my own personal experience that says they're god awful. You can ask Kaido too
Not only do they produce garbage, their customer service to deal with that garbage is also straight up terrible. It was so bad it made Comcast look competent. Friends don't let friends buy Chrysler
It's fairly well known... after Fiat took control their initial and long term quality is wayyy up. Really I feel like you're baiting though - anyone who actually keeps up with the automotive press knows this. Chrysler has improved by leaps and bounds - it's not really a debatable thing at this point.
It's fairly well known... after Fiat took control their initial and long term quality is wayyy up. Really I feel like you're baiting though - anyone who actually keeps up with the automotive press knows this. Chrysler has improved by leaps and bounds - it's not really a debatable thing at this point.
Holy crap, since when are minivans $40,000+?
Holy crap, since when are minivans $40,000+?
Holy crap, since when are minivans $40,000+?
At least 10 years they've been that high. I remember the 2004 Sienna's in the xle limited trim were over 40k.
Since 150/1500 pickups started costing 60K+. It's well known vehicles are alot more expensive. You can still get stripper models, but if you want to actually enjoy any of the new advancements in tech, you have to pay a pretty salty price. Vehicles have seemed to stagnate compared to computers. In Computers, new speed/tech because the standard in 2-3 years. In cars it just seems the new stuff becomes part of the base price instead.
Since 150/1500 pickups started costing 60K+. It's well known vehicles are alot more expensive. You can still get stripper models, but if you want to actually enjoy any of the new advancements in tech, you have to pay a pretty salty price. Vehicles have seemed to stagnate compared to computers. In Computers, new speed/tech because the standard in 2-3 years. In cars it just seems the new stuff becomes part of the base price instead.
My family is suffering with our Honda Odyssey EX model and its lack of a DVD player. What is cutting edge about a DVD player?
Uh, how can you ignore two him when he recently dumped a crappy Chrysler product? I'm amazed Kaido is as patient as he is given all the issues he's had with his Renegade. The issues aren't made up.
Plus, the issues with the ZF 9-speed aren't limited to Chrysler either. Frankly, I'm surprised Honda decided to use that trans.
Holy crap, since when are minivans $40,000+?
23K
http://www.dodge.com/en/grand_caravan/
If you are willing to risk Chrysler quality, a grand Caravan is a lot of bang for your buck. Neighbor has one and friend of mine recently pickled up one brand new for 19K. It's a 50\50 chance when it comes to Chrysler.
High 20's gets you a Sedona's and Quests but that unfortunately leads you into Kia dealerships, Kia Service departments
buy a used iPad and call it a day?
Yeah but it's still crazy to spec up your minivan like that unless you just have money to burn. As mentioned in another thread, our '15 Odyssey EX-L was under $30K (sticker $33K), whereas the Elite Touring stickered closer to $45K. For that extra ~$12K, you got: nav (questionable value these days), vacuum (good rechargeable is $50), drop-down video screen (well under $500 installed if you want it), fog lights (ok), and maybe a couple of other things - certainly not $12,000 worth.