2017 NBA Playoffs

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pete6032

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I did not watch much basketball this season. Even before last season began it seemed like a foregone conclusion that we'd see either the Spurs or Warriors take on the Cavs in the finals, with the Warriors likely to win. I wish the NBA could be a little more competitive.
 

manly

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I did not watch much basketball this season. Even before last season began it seemed like a foregone conclusion that we'd see either the Spurs or Warriors take on the Cavs in the finals, with the Warriors likely to win. I wish the NBA could be a little more competitive.
basically, you'll have to wait for a couple things to happen:
* the decline of LeBron James. 2-5 years? Who knows
* Klay Thompson hitting free agency.

It is more or less assumed Steph Curry & KD will stay with GSW for at least a few seasons. But the team will eventually be paying substantial repeater tax penalties, unless their top 4 guys all decide to leave a LOT of money on the table. If Curry signs a super-max deal this summer as widely expected, they will probably have to consider trading Klay Thompson in 2018-2019 or Green the following season.

http://heathoops.com/2017/05/a-fun-but-serious-look-into-the-golden-state-warriors-future/
 

slayer202

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the league will be very different once lebron is gone, we'll be in a new era for sure. what lebron decides to do in these next couple years will be very interesting as well.

warriors seem to have a bright future, though I'm not sure who will be next to take the reigns. I think we might be looking at a downturn for a little while before we get a new class of superstars. I don't follow the league too closely but it doesn't seem like there are any young truly dominant guys ready to step up
 

slayer202

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he makes a good point. and as much as I love the spurs and hate lebron I think I'd be down. the warriors are the team to hate on now, and lebron has become the underdog. sure would be interesting.
 

Red Storm

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The sad thing is these crazy max contracts going to middle level players is only going to make the situation worse for any team not named the warriors. It was really stupid to raise the cap like that so quickly, should have been a slow rollout.
 

tynopik

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ESPN @ESPN 14h14 hours ago

With Paul George moving West, only 1 of the top 14 players in last year’s #NBARank will be in the Eastern Conference.



Bill Barnwell @billbarnwell 11h11 hours ago

Can an entire NBA conference tank?

The NBA should really let a Western Conference team trade for the right to play in the Eastern Conference for a year.
 

Red Storm

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They should seed the playoffs by record, so we can avoid crappy eastern teams making the playoffs. But it won't happen.
 

manly

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wow, is Kyrie Irving trolling us? He wants to run his own offense away from LeBron, and his preferred destination is to the Spurs?
 

zerocool84

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kyrie to the spurs would be nice
Unfortunately Kyrie wants to be the #1 option on whatever team he's going to. They already have an MVP candidate there so he will be #2 automatically. It does make sense for him to go there though but he doesn't want to be #2 anywhere.
 

Snarf Snarf

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Unfortunately Kyrie wants to be the #1 option on whatever team he's going to. They already have an MVP candidate there so he will be #2 automatically. It does make sense for him to go there though but he doesn't want to be #2 anywhere.

He wants to come here because there's no such thing as a permanent #1 option in San Antonio. It's all lineup based and very fluid depending on the opponent. Coach Pop has no issues with changing his offense on the fly based on who we pick up, which would appear to be why Kyrie wants to come here. I just don't see The Spurs having enough assets that are attractive to Cleveland, maybe Danny Green and LaMarcus Aldridge packaged with a draft pick, throw in a third team to get the Cavs another PG or Melo.
 

Red Storm

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Lol Celtics got fleeced. What a perfect trade for Cleveland. Not only did they get amazing value back, they also set themselves up perfectly for when Lebron leaves.

Celtics aren't going to beat the Warriors with what they've got (hell they may not even beat the Cavs), and now they no longer have a potential #1 pick either.
 

manly

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Lol Celtics got fleeced. What a perfect trade for Cleveland. Not only did they get amazing value back, they also set themselves up perfectly for when Lebron leaves.

Celtics aren't going to beat the Warriors with what they've got (hell they may not even beat the Cavs), and now they no longer have a potential #1 pick either.
When I first saw the deal, I thought the Cavs did pretty well. But it depends on how you look at things. They're almost certainly a worse team without Kyrie (but this is moot because Kyrie demanded to be traded, so they had very little leverage). I like the Jae Crowder team-friendly contract and the Nets draft pick is most likely going to be top 4 in a good draft. Assuming his hip actually heals, Isaiah Thomas wants max money or close, and if I was the Cavs GM, I would let him walk. He's almost 30 years old and any lucrative contract you give him will not end well.

If the goal was to keep LeBron and win another title before 2020, this deal makes them worse off than last season. Now if as you alluded to, the sad reality is that the Cavs can't beat the Dubs next season and LeBron is likely to leave, this is a good deal for the franchise.

I am a little surprised Danny Ainge wouldn't deal a prized 1st rounder in any previous trade talks (Jimmy Butler or Paul George), but finally caved to get Kyrie for 2 seasons. A very interesting trade all around. We won't know the winner for a couple years, I suspect.
 

slayer202

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I was surprised to learn that kyrie is 3 years younger than thomas

It's a good trade for both teams I'd say
 

Ackmed

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More of Durant acting like a douche, backing up my comments from earlier. Trashing his old coach and teammates. Even better, he appears to have a smurf account to use on twitter too, praising himself in the 3rd person. Got busted on it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-childish-and-idiotic/?utm_term=.d984938dc4f5

Hoping they lose this year, but I don't see a way without an injury. I wouldn't want that, just lose straight up.
 
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