2018 Dodge Demon - who's buying one?

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Zivic

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Yes, it's a Corvette and sits around 1,000 whp @ 3,400lbs w/o driver.
you have a time slip? I have no doubt you can make 1000 hp... but there's an old import joke....

what do a 300 hp and a 1000 hp supra have in common?


they both run 13's


have the hp is one thing. actually doing it is another
 

Meghan54

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Stop Saying The 2018 Dodge Demon Is Banned From The Dragstrip

If you just want to take your Demon out to a test-n-tune night, leave it on pump gas and you'll be likely to run 10s all evening unless your track is very sticky and you are exceptionally good. On 91 octane the Demon runs 9.96, which is in optimal conditions with a Dodge engineer or Top Fuel driver testing it. In average conditions on an average track, we'd put our money on 10.10 all day. No bar required for 10.10s.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enth...demon-is-banned-from-the-dragstrip/ar-BBzOvGa

I can see the appeal of this car to a certain crowd that bracket race. Drive it in, race, drive home.
 

Kadarin

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It's an impressive car with very impressive specs if all I wanted to do was go in a straight line. Once upon a time that's pretty much what I cared about, but times change and I find myself not interested in owning one.
 

agent00f

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you have a time slip? I have no doubt you can make 1000 hp... but there's an old import joke....

what do a 300 hp and a 1000 hp supra have in common?


they both run 13's


have the hp is one thing. actually doing it is another

Aftermarket "1000hp" cars also don't run that often.
 

XavierMace

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don't I know this.... even at half to 2/3 that power they can have issues that have them on the hoist more than the street

Half is 500hp. Most new sports cars make that out of the box. What kind of cars have you dealt with that makes you think having "that much" power means they're broken all the time?
 

Zivic

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Half is 500hp. Most new sports cars make that out of the box. What kind of cars have you dealt with that makes you think having "that much" power means they're broken all the time?
Most? Some at best.

And I'm more referring to 500 whp... So a fairer number is more like 600. Not that many sports cars making that kind of power from the factory's....

But to answer your question we were referencing AFTERMARKET ..
Not factory.
 

JulesMaximus

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Half is 500hp. Most new sports cars make that out of the box. What kind of cars have you dealt with that makes you think having "that much" power means they're broken all the time?

I'd bet that 99% of all cars on the road have well less than 500hp.
 
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XavierMace

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Most? Some at best.

And I'm more referring to 500 whp... So a fairer number is more like 600. Not that many sports cars making that kind of power from the factory's....

But to answer your question we were referencing AFTERMARKET ..
Not factory.

Maybe if you only deal with the import crowd. 500hp isn't even breaking a sweat for an LS (or most other big V8's) and are rock solid at that power level.

I'd bet that 99% of all cars on the road have well less than 500hp.

Which has nothing to do with anything.
 

Zivic

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Maybe if you only deal with the import crowd. 500hp isn't even breaking a sweat for an LS (or most other big V8's) and are rock solid at that power level.



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I'll take that as an insult... In return, unless swapped, having an LS means you are driving a GM. Generally speaking who cares how much HP it has if it has a GM badge. and nothing modified is "rock solid" not sure I'd even categorize a factory setup as "rock solid".....

Generally speaking the package the V8's are delivered in makes them unappealing to some (me). there is much more to a car than how much HP it makes. If the HP number defines the car, it might not be that good of a car.

either way.. 500 hp to the ground is a lot of hp. Just because you see a new Z06 rated at 650 it doesn't automatically mean most new sports cars make 500+... again there are some, but not most. Even a nice mustang GT350 doesn't put 500 to the ground with a V8 in it.

in regards to this thread, I guess I wouldn't care if the demon had 500 or 1500 hp, I'm not buying it. I think it is cool it exists though.
 

jlee

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I'll take that as an insult... In return, unless swapped, having an LS means you are driving a GM. Generally speaking who cares how much HP it has if it has a GM badge. and nothing modified is "rock solid" not sure I'd even categorize a factory setup as "rock solid".....

Generally speaking the package the V8's are delivered in makes them unappealing to some (me). there is much more to a car than how much HP it makes. If the HP number defines the car, it might not be that good of a car.

either way.. 500 hp to the ground is a lot of hp. Just because you see a new Z06 rated at 650 it doesn't automatically mean most new sports cars make 500+... again there are some, but not most. Even a nice mustang GT350 doesn't put 500 to the ground with a V8 in it.

in regards to this thread, I guess I wouldn't care if the demon had 500 or 1500 hp, I'm not buying it. I think it is cool it exists though.

Anyone who appreciates cars?

Feel free to be an elitist, but he's not wrong.

You were talking about aftermarket and 500-600hp. That's daily driver territory for basically anything with boost and displacement.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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Great! Take a two and a half ton truck that goes around corners like a 2 legged pig with vertigo and cram more than 800hp into it. Where do I sign up for that life-altering experience? No thanks, if I'm spending $85k on a car I'd like it to be able to make it do something other than go in a straight line. That's almost an entire weeks salary.
 

zerocool84

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It's funny to see the hate for this. It's LITERALLY the fastest built car ever to go in a straight line and not for super car money and you all are hating on it. It's meant to do one thing and it does it better than any car ever before it. That's a great achievement, especially with only RWD.

And people saying that it'll spend all of its time in the shop because it's Dodge when you drive BMW or Mercedes which spends about the same time in the shop is funny. German cars and their reliability or lack of it is legendary. Full warranted and fast as hell. Kudos to Dodge for giving people a fast as hell car.

Of course you can buy a car for the same money that'll take corners great and still be fairly quick in a straight line but that's not what this care is for. It's built to do one thing and it does it better and cheaper than everyone else.
 
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Zivic

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Anyone who appreciates cars?

Feel free to be an elitist, but he's not wrong.

You were talking about aftermarket and 500-600hp. That's daily driver territory for basically anything with boost and displacement.
Maybe I should have been more clear. GM cars are garbage.

As we all are aware, "most" cars make 500+... And now anything with boost and displacement make that for the daily commute. Most everything out there has boost and displacement....
 

JulesMaximus

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Maybe I should have been more clear. GM cars are garbage.

As we all are aware, "most" cars make 500+... And now anything with boost and displacement make that for the daily commute. Most everything out there has boost and displacement....

Most cars can run 11 seconds in the quarter mile and go 0-60mph in less than 4 seconds. Everyone knows this.
 

JulesMaximus

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Half is 500hp. Most new sports cars make that out of the box. What kind of cars have you dealt with that makes you think having "that much" power means they're broken all the time?

This is a completely ridiculous statement not to mention totally false. I can debunk this bunk easily.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/sports-cars

Here's an article listing the top 8 sports cars for sale right now. Only 3 of them have an available motor capable of putting out 500hp and the number of those models sold account for only a tiny fraction of the total. The 4 and 6 cylinder Mustangs, Challengers and Camaros make up half of those vehicles sold and even the V8 versions don't get into the 500hp range until you step up to the more expensive and rarer versions.
 
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jlee

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It's funny to see the hate for this. It's LITERALLY the fastest built car ever to go in a straight line and not for super car money and you all are hating on it. It's meant to do one thing and it does it better than any car ever before it. That's a great achievement, especially with only RWD.

And people saying that it'll spend all of its time in the shop because it's Dodge when you drive BMW or Mercedes which spends about the same time in the shop is funny. German cars and their reliability or lack of it is legendary. Full warranted and fast as hell. Kudos to Dodge for giving people a fast as hell car.

Of course you can buy a car for the same money that'll take corners great and still be fairly quick in a straight line but that's not what this care is for. It's built to do one thing and it does it better and cheaper than everyone else.

The irony is blinding, isn't it.
 

XavierMace

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This is a completely ridiculous statement not to mention totally false. I can debunk this bunk easily.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/sports-cars

Here's an article listing the top 8 sports cars for sale right now. Only 3 of them have an available motor capable of putting out 500hp and the number of those models sold account for only a tiny fraction of the total. The 4 and 6 cylinder Mustangs, Challengers and Camaros make up half of those vehicles sold and even the V8 versions don't get into the 500hp range until you step up to the more expensive and rarer versions.

From the article:

"best affordable sports cars"

NOBODY has made affordable a requirement in this argument and that eliminates most cars you'd call a sports cars among enthusiasts. Corvette, Viper are obvious examples. After the Mustang/Camaro/Challenger trifecta, Corvette is next in sales with a wide edge over the rest of that US News list. Half of that list is the Toybaru and Miata twins both of which are pretty commonly described as underpowered. Any of the current or previous gen luxury performance sedans (V, M, AMG, RS7) exceed the 500 number and are actually affordable used. And that's all talking stock numbers.

I'll take that as an insult... In return, unless swapped, having an LS means you are driving a GM. Generally speaking who cares how much HP it has if it has a GM badge. and nothing modified is "rock solid" not sure I'd even categorize a factory setup as "rock solid".....

Then maybe you should define what you're calling "rock solid". There's currently two cars in the driveway at the house with over 500hp crank. One is over 600whp. I've yet to see either of them break down in any way. So far you've provided nothing to substantiate your statement that once you have over 500hp your car magically breaks down all the time.
 

JulesMaximus

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From the article:

"best affordable sports cars"

NOBODY has made affordable a requirement in this argument and that eliminates most cars you'd call a sports cars among enthusiasts.

Oh, so you meant unaffordable sports cars. Got it. Maybe you should have actually said that then when you stated that most sports cars made more than 500hp stock.
 

Bubbleawsome

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I kinda see what both of you guys are saying. It's rare to see a built engine that isn't fairly new that does make over 500hp. Until recently that was reserved for the high-end factory cars and people who custom-made engine parts. Now though cars over 500hp aren't that uncommon from the factory, and for some it can just be the matter of a small tune to get them there without much else done.
 

JulesMaximus

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I kinda see what both of you guys are saying. It's rare to see a built engine that isn't fairly new that does make over 500hp. Until recently that was reserved for the high-end factory cars and people who custom-made engine parts. Now though cars over 500hp aren't that uncommon from the factory, and for some it can just be the matter of a small tune to get them there without much else done.

A tune could net my car an extra 150hp but I'm not really interested quite frankly. 400hp at the wheels is plenty and adding 150hp to that will certainly stress the transmission on a fairly bullet proof drivetrain. My car is plenty fast as it is. One of the guys on the MB forums ran a 12.44 sec quarter mile at 112mph stock. Not too shabby for a luxury car.
 
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