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Perknose

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The videos of the classy Philly fans are amusing. Got me thinking I should root for the Pats now anyway
You know, that was over-hyped. Apart from anecdotes of stupidity, which you can always find, statistically there were only 6 arrests all day and night citywide, and that included 3 for scalping.
 

Perknose

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They're kinda meh nowadays but back in the 90s watching the Eagles was fun because of Randall Cunningham.
Kinda meh? You don't think Carson Wentz is exciting? He makes me wet with fanboi admiration!
 

glenn1

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Kinda meh? You don't think Carson Wentz is exciting? He makes me wet with fanboi admiration!

Yeah, I really get excited watching him standing on the sidelines with his clipboard. And yeah, he has decent mobility and can avoid pressure like a rich man's Alex Smith or poor man's Steve Young. But nobody is going to have the first sports-related question on Monday morning be "so what did Wentz do in his game" like folks would always ask about guys like Randall. Maybe that's an impossibly high standard to hold him to, and maybe it's just plain unfair to expect. But still, Da Iggles still aren't must-see TV like the Jordan-era Chicago Bulls were for example. Or the current day Pats are, even though many of those watching them are hoping they fail.
 

deustroop

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The Pats will mail it in, keeping it close all game then, (suprise, suprise), winning on a strong finish . Eagles' fans will have something to take away: "We did not roll over!"
 
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Perknose

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Yeah, I really get excited watching him standing on the sidelines with his clipboard.
Despite "standing on the sidelines" for the last three games, he still nearly led the entire league in TD passes, placing second by only one to Russell Wilson.

And yeah, he has decent mobility and can avoid pressure like a rich man's Alex Smith or poor man's Steve Young.
Decent mobility? Wentz is not a poor man's anything! While leading his team to the best record in the league he was right up there for MVP consideration. And, yeah, stats aside, he is damn exciting to watch.

But nobody is going to have the first sports-related question on Monday morning be "so what did Wentz do in his game" like folks would always ask about guys like Randall.
Pardon me, but your ignorance is showing. You literally don't know what you're talking about. I was here for the Randall show, and I've been privileged to be here for the Carson Wentz show, and let me tell you, this season Wentz and the plays he makes are always the prime topic amongst the faithful after a Birds game. You trying to claim otherwise is laughable and lame.
 
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Perknose

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The Pats will mail it in, keeping it close all game then, (suprise, suprise), winning on a strong finish . Eagles' fans will have something to take away: "We did not roll over!"
I know that's the conventional wisdom, and, believe me, I understand why. All the time I was watching the Jags game I was thinking Brady would do exactly what he did. But, time out before you anoint them SB winners. One thing I know, the Birds are not going to play ultra-conservative and scared with a lead like the Jags did.

This Birds team just dismantled the Minnesota Vikings, on both sides of the ball. They're not coming into this game looking for a "moral victory." They have quiet play makers all over the roster, and they are on a mission. If Foles can give us three quarters of what the did last Sunday . . . and now that he has his feet under him I believe he can . . . then you might just see what the real "best defense in the league" is made of come the fourth quarter.

Look, I'm a dyed in the wool Philly sports fan, and that means we expect disappointment and heartache. But I have a quiet confidence in this team, from the GM and coach Dougy P. down through the entire roster. I think "we" can win, and, more important, this team, without bravado, believes it can, too.

If you watched the post game after the Vikings, there was zero over the top celebration. They were not just "happy to be there." They expected to beat the snot out of Minnesota, and their focus remains firmly on the task ahead, winning the SB.

This Iggles team believes in itself and has backed that up all season long, losing several key players and somehow not missing a beat. To the casual fan in other cities I truly understand why they think it's in the bag for N.E. But from all I've seen from the way the Philadelphia Eagles have handled themselves this season, I beg to differ.

Come Feb. 4th, we'll see. It's never over 'till the fat lady sings.

After all, that's why they actually play the games.
 
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nOOky

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That all sounds good for Eagles fans and players, but that damn Patriot team always manages to rise to the level of their opponent and beat them. People point out their weaknesses all the time, but when you watch them their offense or defense never looks like you'd expect, they always look better.
 

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Pats win whenever the opposing QB isn't Eli Manning.

The only thing that can beat Boston Bravado is New York, NY - I don't know what sayings about new york are alliterate.
 
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manly

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Yeah, I really get excited watching him standing on the sidelines with his clipboard. And yeah, he has decent mobility and can avoid pressure like a rich man's Alex Smith or poor man's Steve Young. But nobody is going to have the first sports-related question on Monday morning be "so what did Wentz do in his game" like folks would always ask about guys like Randall. Maybe that's an impossibly high standard to hold him to, and maybe it's just plain unfair to expect. But still, Da Iggles still aren't must-see TV like the Jordan-era Chicago Bulls were for example. Or the current day Pats are, even though many of those watching them are hoping they fail.
(Not an Eagles fan) Although Wentz's completion percentage is not elite, he was actually considered the MVP front-runner when he got injured. His advanced stats compare quite well to the probable winner (Tom Brady).

Laughable to compare any team that's never won a modern championship to all-time greatest dynasties. Most fan bases would kill for just one title in a major sport. And as you yourself mentioned, the vast majority of American viewers of SB LII will be rooting for the upset.
 

Muse

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Pats vs Eagles, ugg guess I don't need to watch the Super Bowl this year.
You never need to watch it. It's entirely voluntary.

I'm gonna watch and TBH I hope the Eagles climb to 21+ over the Patriots and the lead never gets under 21 and keeps growing. IOW, a dominant win for the birds. Do I expect it? No. Would it surprise me? No. Would it please me? Definitely YES.
 
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deustroop

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I cannot fathom the aversion to the Pats that I hear in many places. Perhaps the "why" to so many people hating Brady et. al is likely more the subject of a psy analysis than a reasonable athletic one. After all, this is the most talented sports team since the Montreal Canadians (1956-60) yet many can't stand to see it perform another remarkable win. I can only drum up a SWAG : A generalized negative reaction is likely a measure of feelings of self loathing, eh ? Like, see the best and feel the worst ?
 
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zerocool84

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The same people team winning over and over again in sports gets boring. The same thing that is happening now with the Golden State Warriors.
 

purbeast0

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The NBA is different though because you basically need a super team to even compete. There are only a handful of teams that can be put into that category and is why the same teams are always at the top. There aren't really any "super teams" in the NFL talent wise, and it makes sense since outside of the QB, individual players don't have nearly as much of an impact (for the most part) as they do on a 5v5 NBA on the court team.

I personally find the Pats intriguing because I think watching greatness is awesome, and I love how they shut up all of the haters almost every time. I also like that they do it with a bunch of no name players. They are the definition of "next man stand up" mentality. They are such a plug and play system that it's pretty incredible to watch. The only position I'd say they don't have that luck is TE because Gronk is on another level.

I find the Warriors boring in general because of all the 3's they shoot. I just don't find it entertaining when there is a 2 on 1 fast break and they kick it out to someone behind the arch for a 3.
 

BUTCH1

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I don't think there was an intention to injure Gronk. I don't think head to head was intended, I think it was accidental, based on the replay. In addition to watching the replay closely, you have to realize that anyone doing a head to head contact is endangering himself as much as the other guy.
Yea, I've looked at it several times since it happened, it looks looked he was trying to lead with the shoulder and just missed, I don't buy that going high is the only option to tackle someone though.
 

BUTCH1

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The same people team winning over and over again in sports gets boring. The same thing that is happening now with the Golden State Warriors.
To an extent, I agree, but then again we will never see another dynasty in the NFL like we've seen with the Pats, it's just not set up for it to happen. I also like Philly's chances in the SB, Peterson has done a great job of getting Fowles into his comfort zone and the Pats do not have as good a defense as Minnesota.
 

Captante

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Yea, the "miracle" is gonna end with a harsh bit of reality in Philly, can't turn the ball over twice and expect to win very often, Foles is also playing very well tonight.


Shows that when you try to "make" a big moment it usually fails hard.

Would have rather seen Brees/Saints in this game although I suspect the end result would have been the same.
 
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The same people team winning over and over again in sports gets boring. The same thing that is happening now with the Golden State Warriors.
So don't blame the one team stepping up to the plate and winning all of the time, blame the lamers always falling short and losing all of the time.
 

BUTCH1

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Shows that when you try to "make" a big moment it usually fails hard.

Would have rather seen Brees/Saints in this game although I suspect the end result would have been the same.
Yea, agree, as a Pats fan I'll have to say Philly looks damm impressive indeed, if Bortles can hang 300 on the NE defense Foles should find success as well, both Butler + Gilmore gave up chunk plays at home as well. I think a lot depends on which team finds a groove first as well.
 

deustroop

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I noticed that the NE defence really put grit in their coke at half time and stuffed the Jag running game from then on. The tipping point was some Jag linemen taunting the NE defence a few times and even roughing a few players up late in the second . I noticed the result.The NE win was in large part Amendola , sure, but the other part, aside from god Sir Thomas Brady, was an invigorated defence. Lets see:
After the Patriots finally took back the lead, the Jaguars immediately showed life with pass plays of 8 and 29 yards to get into New England territory. But a sack and forced fumble of Bortles pushed the Jaguars back and a fourth down throw to Dede Westbrook was broken up to give the Patriots the ball back.
Yeah defence.
I'll go so far as to suggest that the last thing Philly should do, at any point in the game, is take the lead ! That's playing the Brady game and is doomed. lol.
 

Majes

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I find the Warriors boring in general because of all the 3's they shoot. I just don't find it entertaining when there is a 2 on 1 fast break and they kick it out to someone behind the arch for a 3.

I found it really fun 2-3 years ago because everyone said "A jump-shooting team can't win it all". But the effect that they've had on the league and on basketball in general has been terrible... Seeing brick after brick thrown up by lesser teams in the league is just not that much fun to watch. You'd think college would be worse too, but the closer 3-point line stems that issue somewhat. High School and lower has taken a huge hit though...
 
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