2018 NFL playoff thread

[Muse]

I just hate that utterly lucky POS Brady. Obviously he is great and exceedingly skilled, but I don't think he would be nearly as great on most other teams--obviously a good system in any situation is good because of lots of positive feedback, but as I've also come more to accepting that Brady really is good, I think it remains the case that Bellichick really is that much better. Brady's career essentially started with "the tuck" and for anyone that isn't a homer from the beginning, that reputation just sticks with you and is going to be reinforced more by events that support it rather than destroyed by all of the other counter evidence. It's just how it is....

I like Bellichick, I think he's the right kind of shady and "I don't give a shit" attitude. I like that people bitch about the way he wins. You just have to beat him is all.

One of the things (non football) that grates on me about Brady is that he really is a human piece of shit. Proud homophobe, proud Trump guy, and just the absolute personification of idiot jock that everyone knew growing up. This insistence that he is some kind of "American Dream" story is utter shit: "Oh, but he was drafted so late...and look at him now!" Ummm...that, right, there: he was fucking drafted into the NFL! fucking cry me a river, Francis. You're talking a 0.05% human is some kind of come-from-behind dream story? yeah, fuck off.

The guy was only ever and has only ever been the supreme dickhead jock everywhere he went in life: premadonna in San Mateo, on to Michigan, then a "poor, woe is me has-been" that was barely drafted. please. The guy hasn't known a day in his life where he wasn't the king of his castle and money, fame, worship, and broads weren't handed to him on a silver platter. not once!

OK, you summed it up nicely. Yeah, I'm not a Brady fan. I agree, he's "exceedingly" talented at his position, but root for him? Not me, I don't, and you pretty much spell out why. Good job, man! And I'd like your post, but don't want to see blood. I turned off the bloodbath that was TN at Foxboro when the score reached 27 to 7 (didn't stick around for the extra point, just went to bed). To say the Pats had all the momentum is a ridiculous understatement. I still don't know the final score... or who "won."

Bruce Jenkins, before the playoffs even started, predicted a Pats sweep in the SF Chronicle. I scanned the story (speed read, in my fashion). I had hope that he was wrong, but have to admit, he might have been just plain right. The Pats seem to be well prepared, it's their m.o. The Raiders loss to them in Mexico City was for me all the proof I needed that Jack Del Rio was a goofball. The Pats prepared at altitude in Colorado and Del Rio had the Raiders fly in the night before from Oakland. His firing took me by surprise, but I had to think it was inevitable. Hard to think how Bay Area pro football has done this 180 in terms of being interesting since mid season.

 

[BUTCH1]

He didn't say that their intention was to take out Kelce physically. He said that the gameplan was to take out Kelce by making him irrelevant: focus on him, keep the ball away from him, and make them beat you with someone else. I know what you're referring to, because I recall that comment as well and it certainly sounded that way (this was Collinsworth, I believe), but that isn't what he meant to imply.

I mean, just think about it: Titans DC goes up to Collinsworth pre-game: "Yeah, so we're going to target Kelce until he gets a concussion or breaks a knee or something. We need him out of this game to have a chance!" For Collinsworth to imply this by what he said would mean that he had actually been told this is what TN wanted to do.

I agree, Tennessee obviously wanted to put some hard licks on him on those seam or crossing routes to make him possibly a little "gun shy" about catching a pass but I don't believe for a second their was and intent to injure or concuss him.

 

[BUTCH1]

I just hate that utterly lucky POS Brady. Obviously he is great and exceedingly skilled, but I don't think he would be nearly as great on most other teams--obviously a good system in any situation is good because of lots of positive feedback, but as I've also come more to accepting that Brady really is good, I think it remains the case that Bellichick really is that much better. Brady's career essentially started with "the tuck" and for anyone that isn't a homer from the beginning, that reputation just sticks with you and is going to be reinforced more by events that support it rather than destroyed by all of the other counter evidence. It's just how it is....

I like Bellichick, I think he's the right kind of shady and "I don't give a shit" attitude. I like that people bitch about the way he wins. You just have to beat him is all.

One of the things (non football) that grates on me about Brady is that he really is a human piece of shit. Proud homophobe, proud Trump guy, and just the absolute personification of idiot jock that everyone knew growing up. This insistence that he is some kind of "American Dream" story is utter shit: "Oh, but he was drafted so late...and look at him now!" Ummm...that, right, there: he was fucking drafted into the NFL! fucking cry me a river, Francis. You're talking a 0.05% human is some kind of come-from-behind dream story? yeah, fuck off.

The guy was only ever and has only ever been the supreme dickhead jock everywhere he went in life: premadonna in San Mateo, on to Michigan, then a "poor, woe is me has-been" that was barely drafted. please. The guy hasn't known a day in his life where he wasn't the king of his castle and money, fame, worship, and broads weren't handed to him on a silver platter. not once!

Well yea, he, (and the Pats) caught a big break with the tuck rule but that didn't really matter as much as people think, Brady would have taken Bledsoe's job even if they wound up losing that game. Thing is about Brady is he's hyper-competitive, and all the great ones have been like that, he knew he was not blessed with the strongest of arms and he cannot run for crap so he focused his energies into being the best QB he could with the skill's he did have. Here's story about Elway, (another hyper-competitive guy), he had a few of the Broncos over his house for some BBQ, he lost a game of pool that afternoon and was so pissed he sold the table the next day to get it out of his house!. The Trump support was extremely disappointing though, ugh, how the hell anyone could not see this douche was the biggest blow-hard is puzzling to me. Brady has since turned the other cheek to Trump since his divisive comment about benching all NFL players who decide to kneel during the anthem. When Brady refused an invitation for dinner with Trump in the white house fuc*-tard had to tweet he was "disappointed" with Brady. I think the "come from behind" is just the fact that typically 6th round QB's normally wind up as back up's for a few years and then usually exit the league. Even though I admit he has a few character flaws, (ouch, hooking up with Garrero, a guy who was selling crap cancer "supplements" and had to be told by the FDA to cease + desist), I still admire Brady, he is already stinking rich, he has already complied and almost unbelievable legacy and could retire tomorrow as arguably the best QB ever, he simply refuses to stop, he is the definition of relentless.

 

[BUTCH1]

`Holy smokes, Jaguar's now lead 21-0 early 2nd Qtr, this is simply physical will being imposed on the Steeler's, how moronic was it for some of the Steeler players to say they were looking forward to beating NE in NE. Talk about giving a team motivation.

 

[NoTine42]

That 3rd Jaguar touchdown is why the catch rules are so dumb.
If that was a catch with a lean across the plane of the end zone ending on the ball bouncing on the turf, it’s not a catch, therefore joy a touchdown. But because it’s a running play, it’s an insta-touchdown when it crosses the plain and nothing after that instant matters.

 

[Capt Caveman]

That 3rd Jaguar touchdown is why the catch rules are so dumb.
If that was a catch with a lean across the plane of the end zone ending on the ball bouncing on the turf, it’s not a catch, therefore joy a touchdown. But because it’s a running play, it’s an insta-touchdown when it crosses the plain and nothing after that instant matters.

The runner has possession when crossing the plane while the receiver doesn't. Pretty simple to understand.

 

[herrjimbo]

Whodathunk the 1st half would go like this

 

[Darwin333]

That 3rd Jaguar touchdown is why the catch rules are so dumb.
If that was a catch with a lean across the plane of the end zone ending on the ball bouncing on the turf, it’s not a catch, therefore joy a touchdown. But because it’s a running play, it’s an insta-touchdown when it crosses the plain and nothing after that instant matters.

The runner had already established possession before the ball crossed the plane.

 

[NoTine42]

The runner had already established possession before the ball crossed the plane.

It used to be the receiver also had clear possession. It’s now some bs “process of the catch” that changed.

It should be, catch with both hands, and both feet on the ground, transfer to 1 hand (still holding the ball) and reach across the plane is identifiable as 100% established possession, play is over the instant it crosses the plane.

 

[purbeast0]

It used to be the receiver also had clear possession. It’s now some bs “process of the catch” that changed.

It should be, catch with both hands, and both feet on the ground, transfer to 1 hand (still holding the ball) and reach across the plane is identifiable as 100% established possession, play is over the instant it crosses the plane.

You just don't know the rules.

 

[NoTine42]

You just don't know the rules.

I know the current rules.

That doesn’t mean the current rules were made by a god and can never be questioned or changed.

I am advocating a rule change.

 

[BUTCH1]

What's LOL is everyone cracking on Bortles but here in this 4th Qtr the guy has been great, every time Brown has yet another amazing catch, (and stands to mug for the crowd) Jag's simply answer with another TD. Hard to imagine it but they have stunned this Steeler crowd by putting up 41 points. Jax actually has the tools to stop the Patriot offense and this team is clearly not afraid of anyone.

 

[Darwin333]

Boy, I bet they are kicking themselves for going for that onside kick, not getting it, getting a 3 and out but the Jags still get a FG out of it basically putting the game away. If they would have kicked it away and gotten the 3 and out they would have had plenty of time to tie the game.

 

[purbeast0]

There has been a lot of terrible coaching decisions by Tomlin today. No QB sneak on 4th and inches twice, onside kick, and then not taking timeouts before 2 minute warnings. Just all around terrible.

 

[BUTCH1]

There has been a lot of terrible coaching decisions by Tomlin today. No QB sneak on 4th and inches twice, onside kick, and then not taking timeouts before 2 minute warnings. Just all around terrible.

Yea, they had a 4th and 2 feet and try a pass-play for 10-12yds, not the best idea. Shoot, take away those Brown TD's on 4th down and this game is not even close. Personally I thought it foolish for some of the Steeler players to speak of "beating NE", they were acting like playing the Jags was just a formality. I was thinking "WTF", this Jax team is just so good on defense and play with a physical punishing style plus they had already beaten you, (convincingly) earlier in the season.

 

[Darwin333]

The Vikings so didn't get that 1st down.

 

[Darwin333]

BULLSHIT PI call, man these Refs seem to be calling it for the Vikings...

 

[purbeast0]

Can you all imagine how unhype the SB will be if it's Bortles vs. Foles or Keenum? I'm not saying it won't be a fun game to watch or anything because the Jags/Steelers was really fun and it's crazy how good Jags defense is, but damn, that is about as unhype as the NFL could hope for.

I didn't think there was a chance in shit the AFC game wouldn't be Steelers/Pats or that the Falcons would lose to a Wentz-less Eagles, but so far I'm 0-2 so I'm not counting the Jags out at this point.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Does Drew Brees work for the Vikings?

 

[pete6032]

All Sean Payton does is whine and complain.

 

[BUTCH1]

Seems the Jags are now poking fun at Pittsburgh on Twitter, http://www.espn.com/blog/jacksonvil...-troll-steelers-for-looking-ahead-to-patriots

 

[Ricochet]

All Sean Payton does is whine and complain.

And the two bad challenges he called could come to bite the Saints in the end.

 

[FreshCrabLegs]

What the heck!!!

Touchdown?

 

[Svnla]

Where did the Saints DB learn how to tackle? Goodness. It was bad, nope, horrible.

Just made the tackle and the game would be over because Vikings had no time out to set up for a FG.

He totally missed the whole tackle and tackled his own guy instead. I do not want to be him in the locker room after the game.

 

[BUTCH1]

DAMM.... WTF was that DB friggin thinking????, all he has to do is tackle him and the clock runs out!.