Formula BOINC said:
- Sprint from 11/13/2020 03:00 (UTC) to 11/16/2020 02:59 (UTC) is canceled
That makes me think the "coalition" voted for Cosmology, so he cancelled it since the project server has been broken (out of disk space) almost all week.
The voting page was non functional leading up to it according to some posts on the Formula BOINC forum. My guess is Sebastien didn't realize the voting page was down until it was ready to announce the Sprint and then bailed on it because nobody had the chance to vote, but that's pure speculation on my part. I would have thought it'd be more likely just to pick a project at random at that point, but the choices are pretty limited. Hard to say.That makes me think the "coalition" voted for Cosmology, so he cancelled it since the project server has been broken (out of disk space) almost all week.
(FB forum, Oct 12)Dark Angel said:We (XtremeSystems) crunched every unit we had. There was never any intention of doing otherwise. Unlike some team in particular, we don't play petty games like thaat.
Calling us out ain't doing any good.
Err, what are you talking about?I'm just tired of all this your doing this and bla bla bla
You guys here like to have someone to blame,
Oops, my mistake!I already resonded to blustang in the RakeSearch forum when he posted this lie there.
No.
No.
And I'm here, on your turf, calling your team out for dirty play. TaaT is well known for deliberately choking project servers when you're ahead on sprints to prevent other teams from returning completed work. You do it by effectively DDoSing them, ie downloading massive amounts of work you have no intention of completing, aborting it, then downloading again and again. It's a tactic used by your team members every time you get even a hair in front on any sprint. You're also hypocrites, bleating and crying when other teams help each other while you do exactly the same thing and have been doing it for a long time. You team-hop when it suits you and cry about it when someone else uses your own tactics against you.
Call ME a "flat earther"? You're pathetic.
I don't think any one team has the power to choke project servers.TaaT is well known for deliberately choking project servers when you're ahead on sprints
I think soHave flat-earthers taken over at XS now?
Some possibilities exist. But the alleged tactic which Dark Angel described (download work, abort and report, repeat) does not sound like it would be effective to create a denial-of-service condition.I don't think any one team has the power to choke project servers.
Do you have any specific examples? Before your teammates all respond back about me being Donald Trump, screw off, bla bla bla(which is hilarious because I posted a Joe Biden "shut up man" meme to @VietOZ awhile back and then 2 days later was told I'm Donald Trump by somebody else) this is a legitimate question that I'm interested in hearing the answer to. I've been involved in FB pretty much all of this year and haven't witnessed anything close to that. There was Rakesearch this year where Stefan grabbed all the WU's(and completed them well before the sprint was over), but that was just luck based on his timezone and the project not having enough work. I probably have had to abort a few WU's here and there(not recently) just from being relatively new to the competition and hardware I have, but nothing close to taking all the work with no intention of completing it. As far as your statement about team hopping that confuses me as well. Stefan has given a couple of clear examples(I think on the ODLK forum or Rakesearch forum? I'd have to go look) of times we had team hopped to help [H] or another friendly team, but it's extremely few and far between. Every single Sprint there are members jumping in between XS and TSBT just trying to prevent us from getting 2nd(which backfires at least half the time) and then occasionally I see UKBT/TSBT/XS members going back and forth(less recently). That's not a call out, it's a fact. It's also not against the rules, so while I don't agree with it and think it's gamesmanship I try not to let it get to me too much. I understand XS and TSBT being basically one team(in which case I would think they should get 1 vote), but when I saw it happen a few times with UK BOINC Team it's like "Man this doesn't seem right"No.
And I'm here, on your turf, calling your team out for dirty play. TaaT is well known for deliberately choking project servers when you're ahead on sprints to prevent other teams from returning completed work.
Man I tried to recruit you into our internal Milkyway@home competition. I offered to let you in on it you just had to change your team affiliation on Milkway to TeAm Anandtech. FWIW outside of Bluestang giving me a small amount of advice once a long time ago on Hardforum with something(which he prefaced with "I shouldn't help you because you're not on my team" which I was so new to this stuff I thought he meant [H] so I crunched a few million points for them afterward to thank Bluestang for helping ) You are the only member of XS that I interact with that has ever tried to be helpful or even remotely friendly. I'm not at all saying everybody at XS is jerks or anything like that, it's probably more that every interaction starts off on the wrong foot, but you seem to draw the line at telling me I don't know how to read, where others are dropping F bombs all over Sebastiens own forum complaining about him, calling people all kinds of names all over other forums, etc.AFAIK we're still kickin'
You guys should be concern about P3D instead because we moved our yearly honor run for Movieman back to his birthday in February. DA's statement was true, not a single WU was aborted. And the damn ODLK's server didn't go down neither. Calling us out ain't doing any good. We looked at the performances and respect from there. Not the trash talking.
Sure, your dual Epyc/s made some noise. I lost hands down.I can't say sheit in it. But that doesn't mean we're scared of you ... or anyone in the planet.
Imagine OZ on P3D? ... yah ... not good calling us out. Shoulda recruit me instead
Hint: I don't like P3D neither
When the price is right j/k
Huey Lewis
Your "well known" is absolutely false. It is ACTUALLY known that TaaT does not ever intentionally do anything like that.No.
And I'm here, on your turf, calling your team out for dirty play. TaaT is well known for deliberately choking project servers when you're ahead on sprints to prevent other teams from returning completed work. You do it by effectively DDoSing them, ie downloading massive amounts of work you have no intention of completing, aborting it, then downloading again and again. It's a tactic used by your team members every time you get even a hair in front on any sprint. You're also hypocrites, bleating and crying when other teams help each other while you do exactly the same thing and have been doing it for a long time. You team-hop when it suits you and cry about it when someone else uses your own tactics against you.
Call ME a "flat earther"? You're pathetic.
No.
And I'm here, on your turf, calling your team out for dirty play. TaaT is well known for deliberately choking project servers when you're ahead on sprints to prevent other teams from returning completed work. You do it by effectively DDoSing them, ie downloading massive amounts of work you have no intention of completing, aborting it, then downloading again and again. It's a tactic used by your team members every time you get even a hair in front on any sprint.
You're also hypocrites, bleating and crying when other teams help each other while you do exactly the same thing and have been doing it for a long time. You team-hop when it suits you and cry about it when someone else uses your own tactics against you.
Call ME a "flat earther"? You're pathetic.
I'm just tired of all this your doing this and bla bla bla
You guys here like to have someone to blame, Were not your boogieman. This is sport not pattycake or marbles, take your lumps like men just like we do.
You had a good run but beat us late on that last sprint, and guess what, we congratulated you, grow up, the end game is we are helping humanity and
using are hard earned to pay for it, because we want to help, If you join FB, guess what it's sport, so we are going to win or at least give it our best**.
There's no collation or secret cabal, in fact we always told you what we do and were doing before or after the sprints, Plus we know you can see mostly what's going on in the stats pages.
But again seems you must have some conspiracy if something goes down, things don't work out or you guys just can't get it together then you Pivot and blame XS.
But I guess the biggest reason is were more user friendly then you guys, seems your team isn't too well liked and now your trying to project that on us.
That's a Trumpism I learned this election, got no real facts, everything points back to your own actions, well Pivot and blame someone else.
The fact is we are a solid team made up of good people that like to help, we offer help, try to help and even help if it means a lot to someone and we feel that.
But FB will never be gone, I think the last 2 years have shown that it needs to do 3 things, rewrite the code, get better at servicing us the crunchers and talk to the Server managers of each program that commits to FB on a regular basis and make them commit to some terms. We can help them to get involved. Make them checklists and let them know when they can be chosen and what to check. We have a lot to offer lots of WU's in just 4 days. Even if the FB owner doesn't step up soon, people have offered to help. If not I'll write one myself, so no worries here.
In conclusion being Crunchers we are in a category of mostly type 1 personalities (thanks SaM) and we all like to win, so take the whining out and put that to work making this competition a better event, No bunkering, it gets announced and we go. Make a better way of choosing events, some kind of random generator or something, and every week let every program know that they could be chosen this week.
I don't come here much, but I know deep down that this is a solid and good hearted team, so lets act like one.
Steve - SystemViper - XtremeSystems 4ever
I don't watch these things closely, but I think UBT's help to TSBT was a one-off thing (and ineffective, because in a GPU sprint). UBT got some help back in the CPU sprint which followed, AFAIR without consequences to the rankings.and then occasionally I see UKBT/TSBT/XS members going back and forth(less recently).
Who the Hell are these guy's to tell us how to play the game., No bunkering
Stefan, thats what it sounds like to me. It's not his race it's notNo bunkering, it gets announced and we go