Discussion 2024 USA Election Thread: Biden and Dems might have problems in 2024 swing states - The Gaza Issue

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K1052

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Barring any major events, I think there is a decent chance Biden thumps Trump quite well in the general.

Trump has helpfully once again set the bar at Biden not actually dying on stage. The muted mic thing is going to drive Trump crazy also.
 

Pens1566

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Trump has helpfully once again set the bar at Biden not actually dying on stage. The muted mic thing is going to drive Trump crazy also.

Since there's no audience, I honestly don't think he's going to even notice that his mic is cut off. Like he'll keep going and be completely oblivious to it.

TBH, I think it would be more beneficial for Biden if his mic was kept live. More opportunities for him to say something completely bat-shit, pants on head crazy.
 

eelw

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Since there's no audience, I honestly don't think he's going to even notice that his mic is cut off. Like he'll keep going and be completely oblivious to it.

TBH, I think it would be more beneficial for Biden if his mic was kept live. More opportunities for him to say something completely bat-shit, pants on head crazy.
Not necessarily. They’ll generally stay on a split screen view. Sure we won’t hear him, but we’ll see him flapping his lips long after his time expires.
 

Fkstick McDuff

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Since there's no audience, I honestly don't think he's going to even notice that his mic is cut off. Like he'll keep going and be completely oblivious to it.

TBH, I think it would be more beneficial for Biden if his mic was kept live. More opportunities for him to say something completely bat-shit, pants on head crazy.
It will be amusing to watch him rant away in silence, especially if he starts playing the air accordion as well.
 

APU_Fusion

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I sure hope Biden only addresses him as convict rapist Trump. Don’t bother with policies as it is my opinion Americans really don’t care or understand policies. They understand social media and simple catch phrases. Criminals should never be commander and chief. Criminals should not be presidents.

Biden should wear MADA. The new slogan. Make America Decent Again.
 

Fenixgoon

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I sure hope Biden only addresses him as convict rapist Trump. Don’t bother with policies as it is my opinion Americans really don’t care or understand policies. They understand social media and simple catch phrases. Criminals should never be commander and chief. Criminals should not be presidents.

Biden should wear MADA. The new slogan. Make America Decent Again.
Quit being so divisive /s
 

gothuevos

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Hindsight is 20/20, but it may have simply been better if Trump had won last cycle and just got him out of our system. He would still be surrounded by mostly ineffective goons, Project 2025 would not be a thing, and he would have been limited by a divided if not fully Dem controlled Congress (assuming in this scenario that Dems sweep in 2022 midterms). We would have missed out on some of Biden's modest wins but nothing that couldn't be replicated down the line

We could have trudged thru another 4 years of Trump and then at least would have been free of him forever, with both parties forced to reset.
 

brycejones

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Hindsight is 20/20, but it may have simply been better if Trump had won last cycle and just got him out of our system. He would still be surrounded by mostly ineffective goons, Project 2025 would not be a thing, and he would have been limited by a divided if not fully Dem controlled Congress (assuming in this scenario that Dems sweep in 2022 midterms). We would have missed out on some of Biden's modest wins but nothing that couldn't be replicated down the line

We could have trudged thru another 4 years of Trump and then at least would have been free of him forever, with both parties forced to reset.
You seem to be huffing your diapers now.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Hindsight is 20/20, but it may have simply been better if Trump had won last cycle and just got him out of our system. He would still be surrounded by mostly ineffective goons, Project 2025 would not be a thing, and he would have been limited by a divided if not fully Dem controlled Congress (assuming in this scenario that Dems sweep in 2022 midterms). We would have missed out on some of Biden's modest wins but nothing that couldn't be replicated down the line

We could have trudged thru another 4 years of Trump and then at least would have been free of him forever, with both parties forced to reset.
We'd probably be in the middle of a NATO conflict with Russia if Trump had won 2020.
 

fskimospy

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Probably more of a NATO crisis as the alliance falls apart because Trump is a liar and would try to wiggle out of our treaty obligations.
Yeah the path for destroying NATO with Trump in the WH is easy for Russia, assuming Trump doesn’t just unilaterally withdraw.

If you’re Russia you find the absolute shittiest spot covered by article 5 and hat you can make even the slightest claims about and you occupy it/start some shit there. Then one of or some combination of the following two things happens: Trump either declares the US will not assist if article 5 is invoked (what, are we going to war over some ice?!) or the member state invokes it and we don’t respond. NATO dead and basically without firing a shot.

After that Russia starts in on the Baltics the same way it has with Georgia and Ukraine, rinse, repeat.
 
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K1052

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Yeah the path for destroying NATO with Trump in the WH is easy for Russia, assuming Trump doesn’t just unilaterally withdraw.

If you’re Russia you find the absolute shittiest spot covered by article 5 and hat you can make even the slightest claims about and you occupy it/start some shit there. Then one of or some combination of the following two things happens: Trump either declares the US will not assist if article 5 is invoked (what, are we going to war over some ice?!) or the member state invokes it and we don’t respond. NATO dead and basically without firing a shot.

After that Russia starts in on the Baltics the same way it has with Georgia and Ukraine, rinse, repeat.

The most likely consequence of a Trump win is at least half a dozen nations embark on secret crash nuclear weapons programs.
 

Pens1566

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that last night's display will be washed away over the next 2-4 weeks by lots of Biden live clips, and the sentencing of "convicted Queens man" on 7-11.
 
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eelw

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that last night's display will be washed away over the next 2-4 weeks by lots of Biden live clips, and the sentencing of "convicted Queens man" on 7-11.
Unfortunately SCOTUS playing politics. Imagine if they released the immunity case ruling this morning? We wouldn’t be talking about the debate anymore. Nope they’ll extend their session to delay delay delay
 
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