Discussion 2024 USA Election Thread: Biden and Dems might have problems in 2024 swing states - The Gaza Issue

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brycejones

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A non-answer.

What is stopping this current administration from at least talking about the issue or taking executive action.

When they do/say very little, the GOP is able to fill the space with whatever nonsense they want. Again, read the article. Nobody is suggesting there's an elegant solution out there, especially with a divided Congress. But burying their heads in the sand isn't a winning strategy either.
That took you a day to come up with? Sheesh
 
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PlanetJosh

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Also why is it hard to understand why Jewish people vote for Democrats when the Republican Party is openly embracing Nazis?
Like pro Nazi groups in Ukraine and other countries. How can a compromise be reached under those conditions for the general populations and governments of the various countries? Maybe just winging it from day to day changing one's mind depending on near term conditions. Fixing far term conditions is bound to be uncertain and end badly.
 

fskimospy

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Like pro Nazi groups in Ukraine and other countries. How can a compromise be reached under those conditions for the general populations and governments of the various countries? Maybe just winging it from day to day changing one's mind depending on near term conditions. Fixing far term conditions is bound to be uncertain and end badly.
No I mean pro-Nazi groups in the United States.



If I were Jewish and the head of a political party was having people who call for my extermination over for dinner I would probably not vote for that party.
 
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GettyRoad

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No I mean pro-Nazi groups in the United States.



If I were Jewish and the head of a political party was having people who call for my extermination over for dinner I would probably not vote for that party.
Explain that to Lee Zeldin.
 

Zorba

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Biden made a big mistake going to Israel earlier in the year.

A large percent of the Democratic Party is pro-Palestine.

Why Jewish voters still vote Democratic is beyond me, but Biden should have never taken sides....
Because Democrats want Israel to treat the Palestinians like people but otherwise have no issues with Jewish people. Republicans however love Israel because they think it's needed to bring on the rapture and they really hate Muslims, but Republicans otherwise have very anti-Jewish beliefs.

Israel does not equal Judaism.
 

K1052

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Israel does not equal Judaism.

Yeah this is like how Trump is still to this day baffled that because he gave the Israeli right everything they wanted that American Jews mostly won't vote for him. Entirely unable to differentiate between Israeli Jews and American Jews which is really its own kind of racism.
 
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Yeah this is like how Trump is still to this day baffled that because he gave the Israeli right everything they wanted that American Jews mostly won't vote for him. Entirely unable to differentiate between Israeli Jews and American Jews which is really its own kind of racism.

Yup. But its because he views all relationships as transactional.
 
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gothuevos

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"Polls mean nothing this far out!"

Maybe not. But this illustrates the point I was trying to make a few months ago...Biden can only become MORE unpopular as the year goes on.

I guess we'll get the government we deserve.

 

fskimospy

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"Polls mean nothing this far out!"

Maybe not. But this illustrates the point I was trying to make a few months ago...Biden can only become MORE unpopular as the year goes on.

I guess we'll get the government we deserve.

So since you think polls matter…


This means you won’t fill your diapers though so you ignore it.
 

manly

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Is that a reputable poll?
Unless I'm missing something, they so infrequently do this that I wouldn't even consider them a political pollster.


Unless 538 didn't properly collect data on them, which would be pretty lame. I did a quick Google search and it seems like 538 has it correct. It's not really surprising, if you have to come up with a cute way to spell Insight, are you really that insightful?

It's a BS statement to say all pollsters are equally bad, or that all polls are meant to mislead. If anyone can tell me this, I'm not listening to those dumb motherfuckers.
 
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fskimospy

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Is that a reputable poll?
Polls at this point are not very informative no matter who the pollster is. I just think it’s funny that plenty of polls have come out showing Biden in the lead and you never reference a single one of them, preferring to fill your diaper instead.

And remember, you have basically the world’s worst record of election predictions and despite always being wrong you never reconsider why you’re wrong.
 

fskimospy

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17% of DEMOCRATS want Biden to run again???

Well that's no right wing theory then.. it maybe Gretchen Whitmer time!
If you look at the crosstabs of that poll it is entirely obvious that something went badly wrong with their sample. There is no way it is even remotely accurate and this should be clear to anyone who understands polling.
 
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