Discussion 2024 USA Election Thread: Biden and Dems might have problems in 2024 swing states - The Gaza Issue

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GodisanAtheist

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Yeah ok I'm not reading 49 pages of trolling but any Pro-Palestinian folk should read the actual for real proposed peace plan of the Trump admin during his first term


Just read it, I could highlight the choiciest bits but no one would believe me or think I was making shit up.
 
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Paratus

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I believe what I believe regardless of what the echo chamber here says.

There have been some young people that have been subjected to puberty blockers and surgery and later found it was a drastic error. They have had their lives ruined for this "issue" that very well could have waited until they were adults and made their own choices; good or bad.

It is a complicated issue and due to this I think young people need to wait until adulthood and have a better grasp of the implications of the surgery and understand the real reasons they want it.

But I'll get flamed again in here for my thoughts on the subject. That's fine I have on my asbestos drawers...


For this article, Reuters spoke to 17 people who began medical transition as minors and said they now regretted some or all of their transition. Many said they realized only after transitioning that they were homosexual, or they always knew they were lesbian or gay but felt, as adolescents, that it was safer or more desirable to transition to a gender that made them heterosexual. Others said sexual abuse or assault made them want to leave the gender associated with that trauma. Many also said they had autism or mental health issues such as bipolar disorder that complicated their search for identity as teenagers.


Echoing what MacKinnon has found in his work, nearly all of these young people told Reuters that they wished their doctors or therapists had more fully discussed these complicating factors before allowing them to medically transition.
Do you understand that puberty blockers allow the patient to wait longer to decide what they want to do?

Are the changes permanent?​

GnRH analogues don't cause permanent physical changes. Instead, they pause puberty. That offers a chance to explore gender identity. It also gives youth and their families time to plan for the psychological, medical, developmental, social and legal issues that may lie ahead..


When a person stops taking GnRH analogues, puberty starts again.
 

JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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I believe what I believe regardless of what the echo chamber here says.

There have been some young people that have been subjected to puberty blockers and surgery and later found it was a drastic error. They have had their lives ruined for this "issue" that very well could have waited until they were adults and made their own choices; good or bad.

It is a complicated issue and due to this I think young people need to wait until adulthood and have a better grasp of the implications of the surgery and understand the real reasons they want it.

But I'll get flamed again in here for my thoughts on the subject. That's fine I have on my asbestos drawers...


For this article, Reuters spoke to 17 people who began medical transition as minors and said they now regretted some or all of their transition. Many said they realized only after transitioning that they were homosexual, or they always knew they were lesbian or gay but felt, as adolescents, that it was safer or more desirable to transition to a gender that made them heterosexual. Others said sexual abuse or assault made them want to leave the gender associated with that trauma. Many also said they had autism or mental health issues such as bipolar disorder that complicated their search for identity as teenagers.


Echoing what MacKinnon has found in his work, nearly all of these young people told Reuters that they wished their doctors or therapists had more fully discussed these complicating factors before allowing them to medically transition.
The fact that you think people should wait until they are an adult, well after puberty, to begin taking puberty blockers, should be the first clue that you have no idea what you are talking about.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Do you understand that puberty blockers allow the patient to wait longer to decide what they want to do?

Are the changes permanent?​

GnRH analogues don't cause permanent physical changes. Instead, they pause puberty. That offers a chance to explore gender identity. It also gives youth and their families time to plan for the psychological, medical, developmental, social and legal issues that may lie ahead..


When a person stops taking GnRH analogues, puberty starts again.

Only SRS surgery is PERMANENT!

FFS women get butt lifts and even those only last 3-5 years!
 

Amol S.

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Has an incumbent been this unpopular?

This old?

This senile? Ok maybe that's too harsh but he is deteriorating in real time in front of us.

These are facts too.
We really should forget about the old part. To be honest, if worst comes to worst, it will be a Democrat who is the first female president.
 

Amol S.

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Guys! Guys! Biden is a weak candidate and he should be primaried! Who should do that? I have no idea but I’m sure this mythical person will be able to completely win over all of Biden’s potential voters and more independents in 8 months!

So in the meantime, because Trump needs to be defeated, I’m going to continuously talk shit and complain about Biden! But fuck trump though but let’s talk about Biden and this mythical Biden replacement that we’ll hear about any minute now.


/eye roll
There is only one person who can do better than Bidden in the general election as a Democrat, as well as make landslide victory with Moderates as well as those who voted against Trump in the Republican primaries. That one and only person is....
Ronald Prescott Reagan
His liberal views contrast with those of his conservative father, President Ronald Reagan. He has been an outspoken critic of the modern day Republican Party, and has insisted that his father would be "ashamed" over the influence of Donald Trump in the Republican Party.
Imagine how a "Trump versus Reagan" general election would be like.
 

Amol S.

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Only SRS surgery is PERMANENT!

FFS women get butt lifts and even those only last 3-5 years!
I find women who do but lifts weird. I just do not get what is the obsession over butts. I am a straight man and I do not get the obsession over butts. The only thing the comes to mind when I think of butts is that it is the place where people crap out off.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
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There is only one person who can do better than Bidden in the general election as a Democrat, as well as make landslide victory with Moderates as well as those who voted against Trump in the Republican primaries. That one and only person is....
Ronald Prescott Reagan

Imagine how a "Trump versus Reagan" general election would be like.

I like Ron but there is no way in hell he’d appeal to anyone but liberals. He’d be labeled the anti Christ, assuming people even know who he is.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I find women who do but lifts weird. I just do not get what is the obsession over butts. I am a straight man and I do not get the obsession over butts. The only thing the comes to mind when I think of butts is that it is the place where people crap out off.

You obviously don't frequent strip clubs!
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Do you understand that puberty blockers allow the patient to wait longer to decide what they want to do?

Are the changes permanent?​

GnRH analogues don't cause permanent physical changes. Instead, they pause puberty. That offers a chance to explore gender identity. It also gives youth and their families time to plan for the psychological, medical, developmental, social and legal issues that may lie ahead..


When a person stops taking GnRH analogues, puberty starts again.

Fine I don't agree with it for children that do not understand what they are doing. I also feel like some medical professionals are pushing the issue.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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The fact that you think people should wait until they are an adult, well after puberty, to begin taking puberty blockers, should be the first clue that you have no idea what you are talking about.


I didn't say that adults should be taking puberty blockers. Duh.

I said children should NOT be taking them and people shouldn't be transitioning until they are adult enough to choose for themselves.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Umm it's quite natural that kids are quite curious and explore stuff.

Quite a few experiment in teen years or even young adulthood to figure out who they are.

The point is no one should be FORCING THEM to be a certain gender and AFAIK no one is forcing them.

If you think for one moment that laws will prevent kids from making these choices.. you're deluding yourself. Because we can't even stop kids from drinking alcohol or trying to get highs from prescription drugs/ opiods.

However it's a manufactured outrage by the right wing as talking point.

The proof is you know how many deaths there are with fentanyl/ opoids but instead.. lets just scare everyone with the trans stuff which affects maybe 1 child in 20,000!
 
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