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Counterpoint: in-home or in-complex L2 chargers are like having a gas station at home, since you can charge overnight.

EV charging stations do need to be ubiquitous, but maybe not to the same degree as gas stations because of the advantage of at-home "refueling"

I still like Tesla's old battery-swap idea, i.e. rent it as a service. In China, NIO has it down pat:

1. Has completed 60 million battery swaps
2. Process takes under 5 minutes (car self-drives into station!)
3. The update process is as fast as 144 seconds (less than half the time)

Make an American version & throw in a free car wash lol


 
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I still like Tesla's old battery-swap idea, i.e. rent it as a service. In China, NIO has it down pat:

1. Has completed 60 million battery swaps
2. Process takes under 5 minutes (car self-drives into station!)
3. The update process is as fast as 144 seconds (less than half the time)

Make an American version & throw in a free car wash lol


A common battery form factor would do wonders for that possibility!
 

Kaido

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A common battery form factor would do wonders for that possibility!

BYD's 5-minute charger OR a 5-minute battery swap would sell me on a >500-mile battery. But that infrastructure would take years to implement in America...
 
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I can't see battery swapping ever becoming mainstream. Maybe in fleets like taxis where you have all the same or similar vehicle. Even then it'll probably cheaper to just have charging stations.
 

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I can't see battery swapping ever becoming mainstream. Maybe in fleets like taxis where you have all the same or similar vehicle. Even then it'll probably cheaper to just have charging stations.
Battery swapping is a rubbish idea for consumers.

5-minute charging is impressive as hell but honestly 10 minutes would be great too. A lot of Americans already spend more than 10 minutes per gas refueling, because the queues at Costco Gas are so long.


 
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Kaido

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Battery swapping is a rubbish idea for consumers.

15 minutes is garbage. Some of my contractors have EV's & we've done 15-minute quick-charges. Historically, 15 minutes is a miracle. In practice...it's not for me. Feels aggravating lol.

I would definitely subscribe to a battery swap service if it were available nationwide because it would eliminate the range anxiety issue for me. Between the government's EV reduction, open-sourcing NACS, and import tariffs...ain't no way that will ever happen lol.
 
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