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Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I still burn DVD's at 4X using a 16X burner.
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I still burn DVD's at 4X using a 16X burner.
Why?
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I feel the burns are better off at a slow speed, I'd rather take a little more time if it reduces the number errors. To me it's no problem waiting 15 min.
Originally posted by: guoziming
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I still burn DVD's at 4X using a 16X burner.
Why?
possibly because his burner makes a lot of errors when burning at 16X. mine's the same way, i can't burn at above 8x speed or the disc won't be useable. same with my CDRW drive, except the speed is 12x.
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: guoziming
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I still burn DVD's at 4X using a 16X burner.
Why?
possibly because his burner makes a lot of errors when burning at 16X. mine's the same way, i can't burn at above 8x speed or the disc won't be useable. same with my CDRW drive, except the speed is 12x.
What drive? Personally, I'd return a 16x DVD if I could not burn greater than 4x or even 8x, assuming my drive throughput was not the cause.
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I feel the burns are better off at a slow speed, I'd rather take a little more time if it reduces the number errors. To me it's no problem waiting 15 min.
I've got a 16x NEC and burn at 16X all the time. Never had a problem reading in either a computer or a stand alone DVD. But whatever makes you happy.
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I feel the burns are better off at a slow speed, I'd rather take a little more time if it reduces the number errors. To me it's no problem waiting 15 min.
I've got a 16x NEC and burn at 16X all the time. Never had a problem reading in either a computer or a stand alone DVD. But whatever makes you happy.
Exactly. Get a quality burner and quality media and you'll be fine burning at 16X. The problem people have burning at high speeds is because they have crap media.
Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon
my question to those who burn @16x from files(4gb or more) is amt of time from click "Burn/Go" to finalize ?
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I feel the burns are better off at a slow speed, I'd rather take a little more time if it reduces the number errors. To me it's no problem waiting 15 min.
I've got a 16x NEC and burn at 16X all the time. Never had a problem reading in either a computer or a stand alone DVD. But whatever makes you happy.
Exactly. Get a quality burner and quality media and you'll be fine burning at 16X. The problem people have burning at high speeds is because they have crap media.
my question to those who burn @16x from files(4gb or more) is amt of time from click "Burn/Go" to finalize ?
I think 6:30 or so.
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I feel the burns are better off at a slow speed, I'd rather take a little more time if it reduces the number errors. To me it's no problem waiting 15 min.
I've got a 16x NEC and burn at 16X all the time. Never had a problem reading in either a computer or a stand alone DVD. But whatever makes you happy.
Exactly. Get a quality burner and quality media and you'll be fine burning at 16X. The problem people have burning at high speeds is because they have crap media.
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I feel the burns are better off at a slow speed, I'd rather take a little more time if it reduces the number errors. To me it's no problem waiting 15 min.
I've got a 16x NEC and burn at 16X all the time. Never had a problem reading in either a computer or a stand alone DVD. But whatever makes you happy.
Exactly. Get a quality burner and quality media and you'll be fine burning at 16X. The problem people have burning at high speeds is because they have crap media.
It's still not a good idea to burn "good media" @ 16x. Trust me. I read CDFreaks enough and I look at those blank media test graphs, and thank goodness someone here knows that Taiyo Yuden is the best, but you will see most people still burn around 8x because the errors are a LOT less.
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I feel the burns are better off at a slow speed, I'd rather take a little more time if it reduces the number errors. To me it's no problem waiting 15 min.
Originally posted by: DLeRium
It's still not a good idea to burn "good media" @ 16x. Trust me. I read CDFreaks enough and I look at those blank media test graphs, and thank goodness someone here knows that Taiyo Yuden is the best, but you will see most people still burn around 8x because the errors are a LOT less.
Originally posted by: Tostada
Originally posted by: DLeRium
It's still not a good idea to burn "good media" @ 16x. Trust me. I read CDFreaks enough and I look at those blank media test graphs, and thank goodness someone here knows that Taiyo Yuden is the best, but you will see most people still burn around 8x because the errors are a LOT less.
I'm certainly not going to trust you. The data at places like CDRLabs just doesn't agree with you. The quality of the media and the quality of the burner is extremely important. The speed you write at is several orders of magnitude less important.
Look at burn quality with a TY or Verbatim media on most Plextor/Pioneer/NEC drives. For the most part, errors are so low burning at 16X that it can be chalked up to variance. Now look at what you get from Optodisc or cheaper Ritek media. Those are the kinds of errors that mean the disc might be unreadable a year from now.
I burn at lot of things at 6X, but that's just because 6X is the highest CLV speed, it still burns in 10 min, and the drive never has to chance speeds and do its linking thing. Even that's not really a good reason, though.
I've cranked out hundreds of TY DVD-Rs at 16X and never had a single error reading any of them back a year later, no matter who's playing them. Lately I've had better results with 16X DVD-Rs than with store-bought discs -- I've actually run into several cases where an pressed disc would skip on a few players but a TY copy plays fine. I've also made about 250 Ritek discs which I burned at 1X, 2X and 4X, and they have serious problems after a couple years. Many are unusable, and the ones that are readable are only readable in a high-quality DVD-ROM.
Plextor has their 18X drive out and from what i remember, the reviews were pretty good.Originally posted by: Tostada
CD/DVD media really shouldn't be spinning at more than 10,000 RPM, and DVDs are better off not spinning as fast as CDs. A 52X max (20.8X min) CD-ROM has to spin at a constant 10,400 RPM. A 16X max (6X min) DVD-ROM spins at a constant 9,200 RPM. 18X DVD-ROM is 10,300 RPM, and a few half-assed attempts have been made at 18X DVD drives, but I don't think any reputable company is still attempting to make them.